To say the anti-football lot need to calm down a little?

Your niece is definitely not doing naff all - if you believe everything kids tell you, then you wouldn’t survive long 🙄. I was with you at your opening post but now you’re just coming across as incredibly unpleasant and rude.

Indeed. It’s very hard to support the World Cup when FIFA are who they are, and this World Cup has seen some awful activity.

Maybe not but you’re a really nasty
piece of work. And I say that as someone who is rooting for the team to do well.

Your attitude is awful. Are you a teen who has been allowed the day off and now you’re bored? Also you should do some research into domestic violence statistics around the World Cup before you moan on about other people not being excited. For some people, football has real consequences. And no, football isn’t the root cause of domestic violence and shouldn’t take the blame, but it exacerbates the situation for some women who will be very frightened during these few weeks.

Grow up. You aren’t doing football fans any favours and you’re embarrassing yourself.

Much of the visceral anger about football is acknowleging that it is corrupt at the higher levels. Nothing to do with fans, the game or the love for football.

I love football. I've loved since my father took me to Santiago Bernabeu to watch a Real Madrid match when I was 4 y.o. Unfortunately a lot has changed since then (I'm 66) and today's game is worth billions of dollars on the hands of a corrupt establishment impossible to get rid off, much like in politics. They control the game.

All we can do is chear for our country and club colours and acknowledge that our feelings have little to do with football business.

I think as long as those who made the decision to stay up were sensible with it (drive safely on the roads today/turn up for work if they hadn’t booked it off) etc.

Seems like it was a great match and sounds like they did us proud!

I don't watch football but am pleased so many people enjoy it. What I really object to, though, is people following a night-time match with a sickie. Either use annual leave or go in to work! Why on earth should the rest of us work extra hard covering your shift just because you chose to stay up late?
There's having fun and then there's taking the piss.

There isn't one.

What is a "national sport" ? Is it an official thing?

Who thinks the OP is one of these kids that was allowed to stay up for the night?

I voted YANBU initially but having seen your.further.comments and some of those who agree with you, I have changed my mind and my vote!

It's not that fans get uppity about people who aren't football fans or worry about them, it's the constant moaning about the football that annoys.

The probably 50 plus threads on MN recently complaining about it usually complaining that people like it and find it an important event.

That doesn't happen about any other sporting event so that's why it stands out.

I'm not a big football fan but understand the significance of the WC to many, many people. I equate it to Christmas, which I am a big fan of. Which also doesn't happen that often and some people like it and some people don't.

But for the weeks before it there's a constant stream of threads on MN complaining about shops getting Xmas stuff too early, complaining about people putting decorations up too early, complaining about people buying Xmas bedding, complaining about Xmas jumper days, complaining about North pole breakfasts, elf on the shelf or Xmas eve boxes, complaining that its just one day so why all the bloody fuss and on and on.

And the WC attracts a similar stream of complaints for no other reason than some people don't care about it and seem unreasonably annoyed that others do.

I voted you were NBU until you disparaged the poster’s birth story and belittled teaching I general.

You confess you haven’t any children so how the fuck do you know what goes on in labour wards or in schools? You have no fucking idea and coming across as a total arsehole.

How dare you say that about PP’s experience of being left whilst giving birth.

I think it depends on how you are usually treated that impacts peoples opinions.

If your colleagues were misogynistic dicks, who have an attitude everytime you take time off sick, or you have to look after sick kids, but they're happy to come in late or pull a sickie because "its football lads!?" - that would piss me off!

Same when secondary schools let kids come in at 11.30am - but get all snippy when they arrive late due to more genuine reasons.

Won’t be just today it affects them, it will last a few days until they finally get back to their usual bedtime routine.

I agree.

A bit of football is not going to solve the problems in the country!

(Reversing something beginning with “B” is the first thing that’s going to help!)

@Ewock Well said. OP's original post wasn't unreasonable (in my opinion) but their later comments about the lady in labour were horrible. And they don't seem to like people disagreeing with them either.
Maybe a lack of sleep doesn't suit them...

I'm more interested in seeing how Arthur Fery will do in Wimbledon this week. I won't get time off to watch that as it is only football fans that gets special treatment.

I didn't watch the match, I went to bed and slept. I don't care about the football world cup. Not everyone is coming together. What is it football fans just don't understand.

They'll be the usual calls for a bank holiday if England win soon. I remember when England won the Rugby World Cup and where I was, and no we didn't get a bank holiday.

I am guessing you have never stood in front of 30 tired grumpy children who have barely slept. Their parents let them stay up and then send them to school for the teachers to deal with. I expect tempers exploding, tears, falling out and very little work to be possible.

Why should the children who didn't stay up have to be ignored because irresponsible parents dump tired children not ready to learn on me.

Thanks. To be fair, I think the OP says she doesn't have children - I think it does surprise a lot of people who haven't been through it how awful maternity care can be (though you'd think some of the recent reports would perhaps have raised awareness a bit). Mine is by no means the worst case of maternity care I know - I know women left it much worse circumstances for much longer - but the constant insistence by staff that the football was very important and my husband was being quite annoying by trying to get them to care for me because it was the (hushed tones) world cup semi-final does still rankle. (Any real football fans will now be able to tell when DS's birthday is and how old he's about to turn!)

This is exactly the dramatic bullshit that makes people think football fans are ridiculous "It's what the country needed" 🙄 don't be dramatic! The country needs an economic boost or a few million nurses not a bloody football game.

It's so childish. Just like the silly clap backs you keep posting to everyone trying to explain why football fans are annoying and the disgusting derogatory way you are mocking a woman who had a traumatic birth experience. You're talking about things you've never experienced (birth, how much being tired impacts young children's behaviour) and making yourself look stupid. You're actually behaving like a stupid football fan that everyone moans about, it would be funny if it wasn't so embarrassing.

I really like football but I didn’t watch it because I have responsibilities.

I do have some sleep problems so starting from a baseline of always being very tired so perhaps might have watched it if I spent any of the rest of my life feeling refreshed…

Blimey, OP. I was with you til you started having a go at this poster. Don’t call someone a liar because their experience disagrees with your opinion. That’s just being a dick

I let my DS 16 watch, he's finished GCSEs and off for an extended summer. I did ask that be went to bed for a few hours first and then got up to watch but only because we are away at the moment and be has to be up by 9am packing etc.
I'm not remotely interested in football, I find all the hype annoying and the assumption that the whole country will get behind the team frustrating. Our fans act terribly most of the time, there are always fights and appalling behaviour, upticks in domestic violence etc. Agree with a PP it would be nice and far less grating if any other sport got the same attention.