AIBU to refuse a Year 9 staying up for the 1am match?

That’s so lame 🤣🤣🤣

Yabvu, he's 14, this could be his country's last match in the world cup. Fgs unclench and let him enjoy it.

I’d let him get up at 5 and watch then on catch up before school, it’s what we are doing (actually later because I’m planning on using the fast forward button for ads and boring bit!)

I would also add literally the last week of school they aren’t doing anything anyway! Loads of schools by me have said keep the result secret and we are going to show the kids the game. We are massive footie fans in our house and there is no way we won’t be watching this game live!! Well my 5 year old will probably stay asleep but if he wants to get up he can.

I'd let him watch it but he'd be getting up for school at the normal time. Tell him to go to bed at 6, sleep until 2am, watch the match, then go back to sleep until 6am. Does he HAVE to get up at 6 for school? Can you shave down the morning routine at all to give him an extra hours sleep? Breakfast on the go? Drive him in as a one off?

I would definitely let him if he wants to do it. It's one night. He'll be tired but so what? It's nearly the end of term anyway. When I was just a couple of years older I had a part time Saturday job that started at 7am and I would sometimes go to it without any sleep at all and survived!

I think the point the PP was making is that the tournament itself isn't a one-off. It's not like it's the only opportunity he will ever get in his lifetime to see England play in the world cup. It's not even the final.

Honestly, people are carrying on like this is the moon landing. I think he should watch it, myself, and take the consequences of a sleepy day, he's old enough to make that decision and experience the effects of a late night.

But seriously, I find the weight put on this, as though there will never be another World cup ever, and children would be missing some crucial moment in their lifetime a bit baffling.

I hear you OP, although the ND aspect would have been useful relevant in your first post, if lack of sleep exaccerbates it in some way. DS is yr10. I've told him that he can watch it if he wants to but he's going to school on Monday, its up to him to figure out how he manages it - either sleeping early then setting his alarm for 1am, or maybe catching up sleep when he gets home from school. Strange how little sleep most children can cope with if it means doing something that they want to. Understand that this is probably different for an ND child.

2014 was in Brazil, so they're a few hours behind us but not as far. The last time the men's world cup was at such unsocial hours for us before this was 1994, when England weren't in it. Irish posters might have some anecdotes!

He’d be better off getting up early to watch it on catchup and fast forwarding through half time. He won’t miss out but will get a decent sleep first.

Yes. It was very common. We weren't supposed to on school nights but were allowed to be out at gigs and clubs at the weekend and sometimes somebody's dad would collect us in the middle of the night. It was quite easy to open the front door and walk out if your parents were asleep and then quietly let yourself back in at 4 or so. I would be horrified if my kids did it but it wasn't the end of the world. The only issue was getting caught with the stamp on your hand at breakfast.

Let him get a few hours sleep before, set an alarm for the game, then a couple of hours sleep after. No need to call in sick, he could still get 6 hours + sleep, just let him go to bed early tomorrow night, its not like this happens often.

I would let him watch it. I’d imagine that most of his friends will be, and at that age fitting in is inportant.
At 14 he has to be given the opportunity to make his own decisions and deal with the consequences so if he is tired tomorrow he’d be the one that realises it is due to his choice to stay up, learning these lessons yourself is far better than a parent telling you what the consequences will be.
It’s only one night, if he’s tired he’s tired, he’ll get over it and will also in years to come when the World Cup comes round again remember the night he pulled an all-nighter

No I think it could one of a core number of examples of when his mother was controlling and unreasonable for no reason other than to exercise her power.

Areas where alcohol isn't allowed!

You are the parent and it's your choice but remember whatever you decide he WON'T forget. Refuse and your son will miss out on all the talk in school with his friends worse case scenario he may also face teasing or even bullying if they find out 'Mummy didn't let him watch the match' and he will blame you. It's not just the game it's being part of the experience. I write as a mum of 4 and a retired teacher of SEN post 16 young adults.

Also be aware that you might find that later/tomorrow you get a text saying the school is starting later (not an impossibility my DD is a secondary school teacher and this is what her school is doing.) If this happens and he has missed the game it will cause even more resentment.

My advice is stop and think:
do you want to risk permanently damage your relationship with your son him? If so go ahead, if not let him be. So what if he's tired a grumpy? I dare say many of the teachers will be too (my DD among them!). Remember also by the time of the next World Cup he'll be an adult or nearly one and you may have to deal with a lots more than tiredness.

PS I write this as someone who has absolutely no interest whatsoever
in football.

Let the boy watch the match.

Yes. Do you actually know that other peoples ‘core memories’ will be different to yours?

I remember going to Boyzone and Westlife concerts at around that age... Rolling home around midnight, high as a kite, ears ringing, unable to sleep, and getting up for school the next day.
There was zero expectation I'd have the next day off, and honestly, it wouldn't have even occurred to me to ask. The adrenaline and the stories of the night before would carry me through.

Presumably your son isn't going out to watch this anywhere? He'll just be at home on the sofa? I can't see the issue personally.

You don't know what's going to be a core memory until afterwards.
I've a few TV related "core memories" although they all involved other people being there as well and sharing the moment.

Plus if he sleeps from as soon as his head hits the pillow at 8:30 then he can get 4 hours in before the game, then 3 after. Surely a 14yr old can survive on 7 hours sleep for one night!!! I mean they should be able to cope with 3-4 as a one off….

This is a good idea that he should go to sleep early and get a few hours in before it starts.

He can then set his own alarm and choose whether to wake up for it or not.

If he does wake up, then at least he’d have had a few hours sleep.

Our school has allowed DC to go in up to 10.30 without being marked late. Dd1 (15) wants me to wake her up. Dd2 (13) has said no. I'm in work tomorrow but going to bed early. Putting an alarm on for 12.45 and I will go back to bed if I can.

DD who are normally up at 6.30 are probably heading into school about an hour later than usual tomorrow.

I'd let him. Lots of teenagers will be staying up or waking up to watch the match. A colleague watched most of the first weekend of the world matches cup waking their teen DC up overnight as requested to watch the Scotland match.

From 15 I was pulling all nighters in clubs. From 14 I was at late night parties. He’s not a baby, stop being weird

YABU