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AIBU to refuse a Year 9 staying up for the 1am match?

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BlackTulipss · 05/07/2026 07:58

Is this unreasonable?
Apparently "every other mum" is letting their school year 9 kid watch the 1am match tonight and phone in sick to school tomorrow morning then go in at lunch.
I've said no to staying up to watch it. Starts at 1am, it will go on till 3:30am, or later if extra time!
DS has to get up at 6:30 for school.
DH says let him, keeps going on about once every 4 years experience, it's only 1 night, etc. And he says it will be the final England match - they'll be knocked out by Mexico tonight so there will be no other England games to watch after tonight.
DS badly needs his sleep and at 14 he still needs a solid 11 hours to function.
Is anyone else letting their DC watch it live tonight?
AIBU?

OP posts:
basiically · 05/07/2026 14:17

Well he will be 18 or near enough next time so you wont stop him then, if we get this far again.
But he will always know you stopped him at 14.

WyrdHag · 05/07/2026 14:17

Passaggressfedup · 05/07/2026 08:07

This is the perfect opportunity for teenagers to learn to adapt. Do something you really really want to, but that doesn't give the right to ignore your duties. That means you still go to school tired and sleepy and make extra effort to keep up.

Or end up in the school medical room
whining that you're tired and light-headed and can't focus...

...can you tell I'm really looking forward to work tomorrow 🤦🏼‍♀️🙄

Hotdoughnut · 05/07/2026 14:12

He's 14! Jeez just let him. It's one night and we're nearly at the end of term. You're being very controlling and precious here.
What is his normal bedtime if he needs 11 hours?!!

MrMucker · 05/07/2026 14:09

"I'm a relaxed parent..."

Yeah right. I've read your posts and you are anything but relaxed if you're not getting agreement.
Also, good luck with that with a 14 yo, it's only just beginning.

Tonissister · 05/07/2026 14:09

YABU. Let him watch it. It matters to him.

RedStripeLeaf · 05/07/2026 14:07

IMO:

  • It would be unreasonable to assume you can control when your child sleeps.
  • It wouldn't be unreasonable to point out that being tired due to choosing to stay up / get up in the middle of the night to watch a match isn't the same as being sick.
  • It wouldn't be unreasonable to tell them you won't make excuses for them at school.
  • It wouldn't be unreasonable to remind a teenager who needs a lot of sleep to be able to function (growth spurt?) that this is the case.

I'm going to watch in the morning after a normal night of sleep. I don't see the point of denying myself sleep and feeling rubbish at work all day when it'd just be us at home watching anyway, since I'm not going to be taking my kids to a pub to watch nor inviting the neighbours round. My kids are welcome to do as they will do, and they've decided they'll join me and my husband and watch in the morning after a decent sleep.

msmillicentcat · 05/07/2026 14:03

I don't see the hype about it all tbh, maybe if it was the final I would let my year 9 and year 6 watch it if they were really keen, but otherwise probably not.

Thankfully nobody in my house is in the least bit interested (except DH but even he said he's not staying up).

JohnBullshit · 05/07/2026 14:01

If, as seems likely, most of the kids in his class are staying up, it makes no difference to his education if he does likewise. It's not as if it's the portal to a nocturnal existence.
No day off though. I let mine do the odd late night thing when they were at school, and while it was allowed as a one-off, they had to accept the consequences of missed sleep rather than catch up when they were meant to be elsewhere.
Can't help pitying the teachers.

likeafishneedsabike · 05/07/2026 13:58

BlackTulipss · 05/07/2026 13:55

King Charles called Lord Berkeley a nutter.
So it's not only Sun readers who use the word when it fits the bill.
I don't personally read any newspapers, but I do hear this word being used fairly regularly amongst my professional upper middle class colleagues.
As an aside, just to be clear, are you stating that Sun readers aren't worthy of engaging with in discussions on mumsnet?

There we are then.
And what about the matter in the hand - the match? What’s the verdict?

Leopardspota · 05/07/2026 13:55

vickylou78 · 05/07/2026 13:42

With my year 6 (11 years old) we are recording it and then getting her up at 5:30 to watch it before school.

This is another great idea. Phone off so no whatsapp messages! There are a few solutions that will work for most kids.

BlackTulipss · 05/07/2026 13:55

likeafishneedsabike · 05/07/2026 13:25

Checking out now as once we have posters using The Sun headline language like ‘nutter’ we know that there is no point trying to communicate meaningfully.
I hope that you can take the excellent advice on this thread and allow your son to enjoy the occasion without anxiety on your part.

King Charles called Lord Berkeley a nutter.
So it's not only Sun readers who use the word when it fits the bill.
I don't personally read any newspapers, but I do hear this word being used fairly regularly amongst my professional upper middle class colleagues.
As an aside, just to be clear, are you stating that Sun readers aren't worthy of engaging with in discussions on mumsnet?

OP posts:
ObelixtheGaul · 05/07/2026 13:53

IonianNerveGrip · 05/07/2026 13:25

Thing is, the poster specifically placed it in the context of others having mentioned one offs. So if someone wants to make the point in the way you do here, it needs to be done without making it about what other people meant when they used a term that could be more widely defined.

And I don't think the importance of it to many teenagers can be stripped from the hype either. The hype is part of the reason they care, it's the context that exists and that OP can't opt him out of.

He won't be the only one who doesn't watch it, but it's quite conceivable he'll be the only one who wanted to watch it and wasn't allowed to. Not least because a lot of parents of 14 year olds would be making the decision in the knowledge that the child might be so wound up and pissed off they don't sleep properly anyway.

OK, I understand about the PP's post.
I still don't agree that this is so massively important. If they were making a family night of it and he was excluded, I'd get it more, but they aren't. And I think more parents than you think won't be making a thing of it at home, so won't see why it's any different to the other things there's been hype over, or all their mates have been allowed to do, and will say no.

Like I said, I still think he should be allowed to watch it, not least because by the sounds of it, he won't actually manage to wake up or stay up for it, but I don't think it's this huge event he can't possibly be expected to miss that some posters (not you in particular) are making this out to be.

Leopardspota · 05/07/2026 13:53

youalright · 05/07/2026 08:00

Go to bed early wake up for the match then back to bed for a few hours then off to school

This is it. Bed straight after tea and sleep til 1, back to bed at 3 to get a few more hours. Will be tired but functioning, early bed on Monday. It’s not that much of a big deal. Plenty people have a few hours awake in the night every now and then! I’m sure he’d survive jet lag etc.

vickylou78 · 05/07/2026 13:46

I'd still send to school whatever you do, as they'll survive one night just fine with little sleep and will just catch up across the week surely.

ThatLilacTiger · 05/07/2026 13:44

Oh god yeah can't do that, it'll mess with his wake windows 🙄

vickylou78 · 05/07/2026 13:43

Could your DS go to bed early and set an alarm to get up at 1:00?

vickylou78 · 05/07/2026 13:42

With my year 6 (11 years old) we are recording it and then getting her up at 5:30 to watch it before school.

Bufftailed · 05/07/2026 13:41

Just let him. But also send him in

CaffeinatedMum · 05/07/2026 13:41

CaffeinatedMum · 05/07/2026 13:38

Let him stay up. When he’s older he won’t remember the day he spent at school tired, but he will remember the special time he spent doing something different and exciting with his dad.

Sorry only just seen that DH won’t be watching it. But my point still stands, let the kid stay up, it will be a special memory for him.

petiteoeuf · 05/07/2026 13:41

I'd let him watch it and probably phone off sick tbh. My mum was really, really strict and formal when I was school age. I was never allowed to parties unless she'd spoken to the host's parents (so I never went to parties because I would never have lived that down lol) and I wasn't really allowed to stay over and rarely had friends to stay etc. But every once in a while she'd just take me out for the day instead of going to school and they are SUCH special memories. I also got v good grades, so it definitely didn't impact my schooling.

basiically · 05/07/2026 13:39

I dont like sports or football but every 4 years here i am.

CaffeinatedMum · 05/07/2026 13:38

Let him stay up. When he’s older he won’t remember the day he spent at school tired, but he will remember the special time he spent doing something different and exciting with his dad.

basiically · 05/07/2026 13:37

Op just this once be a cool mum let him sit up and have the next day off.
Once every 4 year.

Blackcatahotcat · 05/07/2026 13:27

BlackTulipss · 05/07/2026 13:25

Fair point from a pedant.
That was my pred text and I didn't read it back in time to edit and remove the g.

❤️ (ps let him stay up) x

Rollergirl79 · 05/07/2026 13:27

MantleStatue · 05/07/2026 08:04

I think football and the hype around it is ridiculous, but I'd let him stay up. It's a pretty special event and I think most of his peers WILL be staying up too. (Or at least getting up).

Dh recalls his dad waking him for the moon landing. I recall my dad waking me for when Australia II won the America's cup and we all woke up for the Artemis mission. It's these sorts of things that make memories and are special/

I agree with the first ten words.

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