AIBU to refuse a Year 9 staying up for the 1am match?

When I was 14 it was decided i was old enough to set my own bedtime. If he wants to watch the match let him but not at the expense of school, tell him you still expect him to be up and ready as usual, no calling in sick.

I'm not into football at all but my DS (15, Yr 10) is staying at his dad's tonight so they can stay up and watch the game. He'll be shattered tomorrow but I won't deny him the opportunity to watch it, make some memories, and join in all the chat about it at school tomorrow. I'd hate him to feel the odd one out. And yes, I always take the 'but everyone else is doing it' stuff with a pinch of salt, but on this occasion everyone else will be doing it! (Except for me, I'll be happily sleeping 😴 😅)

feel sorry for all the teachers tomorrow trying to tackle a room full of sleeping kids

A couple of weeks ago we had a mahoosive thunderstorm which was very very noisy and lingered around all night, everyone I've spoken too said their kids were woken by the noise and didn't get any sleep that night and were very tired. So the kids had to go to school after being up nearly all night looking at the lightning. They all coped and caught up on sleep the next night, so that wasn't a question of letting them stay up, it was the weather. Kids managed a night of thunder and they'll manage a night of football. I'd let your 14 year old stay up as he won't want to be the only boy in school who didn't watch the footie and the other kids will mercilessly make fun of him

Nope my kids will be fast asleep and at school on time tomorrow.

I’m letting my two watch who are slightly younger. Bed from 8pm to 12.45am, wake up for the match and straight to bed afterwards.
No time off school.

My Y9 DD plans to go to bed and then wake up at 1am to watch. DH has already had his afternoon nap so he can make it.

Let the kid stay up, I’m on dad’s side with this. He’s right we will get knocked out and it’s not like it’s a common occurrence. My kids can watch it if they want too.

The schools are expecting it. It's not like they're going to be tired and unfocused at school, and the teachers are going to be calling/emailing saying they don't understand why they're not themselves today. Everyone is going to be in the same boat, teachers and kids. Might as well go with the flow and let them watch it, then go to school a bit tired at the usual time

It’s probably a majority of the country who will be tired at school and work, including the teachers! So on this occasion, yawning in class will be excused.

Kick-off may still be delayed due to storms.

So has your poor child been put out of his misery and can now look forward to watching the match ?

I’ve told my Year 9 son he’s welcome to watch the match but he still has to go to school. Being tired for one day isn’t the end of the world! By the next World Cup they will probably be in the pub watching every game with their mates. I’ll make the most of him watching at home with me.

It would be reasonable for her not to change her mind with some of the hostile/OTT responses. It gives the impression some of them aren't of sound mind and in no position to be dishing out advice.

OP asked a question, meaning she was unsure of her own stance. For some reason, it got quite a few posters frothing at the mouth.

It would have been perfectly reasonable to respond with the likes of "it only happens every 4 years. It's a cultural moment. Just let him stay up and be a part of it". That would have been fine. But there's been people calling her controlling, jumping to conclusions with other details, and all sorts 😂. MN is wild.

After being told that 77% of posters think YABU op have you changed your mind?

This. Bed by 9pm. Get up 1-3am to Watch the match if you like but still up at 6am for paper rounds before school.

Why are you hoping it will be England’s last match?!

Go out in the street at 3 am - you might get one.

The OP is just here for the fight.

Anyone living near a pub might be woken up anyway .............

Just use the generic football phases:

England never do things the easy way.
We/they weren't clinical enough.

In the Azteca the crowd really were the 12 man.

Kane is strong but England lacked depth.

Anything to do with "pressing", we pressed, they pressed.

Or you can use the new ones for this world cup to be on track.

Mexico parked the bus. Everyone's parking bus this year.

It really was a match of four quarters.

Making football small talk without watching football is a life skill.

So he is a super happy, bright and full of the joys boy 24/7 but also an ‘easily overcome and very overwhelmed’ SEN child as you said earlier. You’re not making sense.

Again, only on mumsnet can a post about me thinking amy DS14 staying up till 3:30/4 am on a school night isn't a good idea could it turn into a deluge of criticism about me being a controlling parent. Controlling parents say a hard no, don't listen to reason, and don't reflect by asking if they're BU on a parenting forum?

well 78% have said YABU so I guess he’s staying up now then?

I another who would let them watch the game, but would still send them to school at the normal time. Being tired for the day is ok.

Having read the full thread, one key takeaway is how many people can imagine that because something isn’t their own lived experience no one else could possibly have done it… just because you don’t know anyone who didn’t go clubbing at 14(I didn’t), remember fondly being woken up in the middle of the night to watch sport (I don’t), some people need/want a lot of sleep (sadly DS is the exact opposite) and believe it or not some parts of the UK call football soccer as ‘football’ means GAA… doesn’t mean other people can’t.

For what it’s worth - which is nothing like the same as everyone else’s opinion as he’s not our child - I’d say he can do what he wants, but he’s going to school tomorrow. And recommend the bed then alarm approach rather than staying up. That’s what I’ll be doing.