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AIBU to refuse a Year 9 staying up for the 1am match?

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BlackTulipss · 05/07/2026 07:58

Is this unreasonable?
Apparently "every other mum" is letting their school year 9 kid watch the 1am match tonight and phone in sick to school tomorrow morning then go in at lunch.
I've said no to staying up to watch it. Starts at 1am, it will go on till 3:30am, or later if extra time!
DS has to get up at 6:30 for school.
DH says let him, keeps going on about once every 4 years experience, it's only 1 night, etc. And he says it will be the final England match - they'll be knocked out by Mexico tonight so there will be no other England games to watch after tonight.
DS badly needs his sleep and at 14 he still needs a solid 11 hours to function.
Is anyone else letting their DC watch it live tonight?
AIBU?

OP posts:
Pinkchickenwine · 05/07/2026 18:47

Honestly OP it’ll be the ruin of him having one nights disturbed sleep!

He’ll fall behind in his studies, important time of year July in schools, big teaching time,

He will forever remember it, the year he couldn’t watch the game!

Id suggest, you all get up and watch it together.

Early nights them alarms set and “make memories”!

Xmasallergies · 05/07/2026 18:47

I wouldn’t unless he is allowed to sleep in. Ten hours a night is within normal range for a teenager.

PinkPonyCIub · 05/07/2026 18:46

Lexibletheflexible · 05/07/2026 08:03

I honestly don't understand any parent who would try and be a barrier here. It just feels mean and controlling. "I could take this away because you are a child so I will.".

Get a grip! It's a football match!

00deed1988 · 05/07/2026 18:46

We are away with a 2 hour ahead time difference. They had a nap this afternoon and will be up at 3 to watch it. Obviously we don't have to be up in the morning BUT we would have let them stay up if we were home (year 7 and 10). I would have been staying up and I leave at 6am for work. We would have gone bed early and woke up at 0030 and gone to bed after for a few hours. It's a one off. I wouldn't have let them call in sick/go in late though. Part of life. Want to do something, deal with consequences.

BurntBroccoli · 05/07/2026 18:45

pouletvous · 05/07/2026 08:05

can he get up at 5am and watch on iplayer?

Yes - good idea he can fast forward all the breaks and half time! I’d be doing this.

I bet a lot of these kids staying up will fall asleep and miss it anyway!

i do think a lot of people have had a long nap today - roads and streets have been eerily quiet!

TheWalkingEyebag · 05/07/2026 18:45

It is a one off so I’d let him. I’d say he has to go to bed at the usual time and set an alarm and watch it in bed, if that’s what he wants to do. Then there’s a real possibility the alarm will go off and he will realise he’s too tired to actually get up and watch or he’ll get up, watch, and fall back asleep in front of the TV during half time. And if he does watch the whole match, so be it! He may find it’s worth feeling groggy tomorrow.

PinkPonyCIub · 05/07/2026 18:44

@BlackTulipss Is there a class WhatsApp? You can soon find out if Everybody Is Staying Up
Or, tape the match and get him up at 4:45 am to watch it before school
Or, just be a parent and say No

icingonmycupcake · 05/07/2026 18:42

God let him live. It's one night. Make a big deal of it. Then if they win, he'll have a great memory to look back on. 'I remember when Mum & Dad let me stay up to watch England beat Mexico...on their turf. Good times'.

If they lose it'll be flushed from his memory like it never happened.

JustKeepSwimmingJust · 05/07/2026 18:39

We are so much not a football house that I was baffled by the message from school announcing that it’s normal school hours on Monday. As in had no idea who it might not be.

But that said I’d probably tell my teenage DS that if he woke himself up and got up to watch it, then went to school without complaining the next morning, then that would be his decision and at his age he is allowed to try out things like that.

the morning I found it hard to wake him then realised he’d gamed in the night, the “punishment” was to get up and get on with the day without complaint. Any complaint and we works have talked about alternative consequences for poor choices.

sleepylittlebunnies · 05/07/2026 18:38

DH is leaving for work at 05.30 in the morning, he has gone to bed and I will get him up for the match, so if it’s a late kick off due to weather, he can have a longer sleep. He won’t bother going back to bed after the match.

DS and DD1 have already finished school and college, they are night owls, so will be up. I work nights, but not tonight, so I’m used to sleeping when I can.

DDY9 loves football, so she is going to bed at 21.00, I’ll wake her for the match. She has a lift to school in the morning so doesn’t need to get up until 08.00, she’ll be fine, probably won’t even feel tired until she gets home. She will go to bed early tomorrow if she needs to.

When high school do school trips that return late, the kids always have to be in school as normal in the morning. My DC like a nap, so are pretty adaptable when needed.

OutAndAbouting · 05/07/2026 18:37

BlackTulipss · 05/07/2026 16:14

So he is a super happy, bright and full of the joys boy 24/7 but also an ‘easily overcome and very overwhelmed’ SEN child as you said earlier. You’re not making sense.

Yes, that's right.
Some (not all, some) children who are ND with SEN who get sensory overload and overwhelm in response to certain situations and triggers can simultaneously have happy characters and delightful personalities, lead fulfilled lives and enjoy a variety of physical activities.
Please don't stigmatise children and young people with SEN like this.

Sorry, am dominating here for a second. I can't believe the way in which this thread has developed, even for Mumsnet. So much shit, judgement and ridiculous preconceived ideas.

Do your thing OP. Do what you believe is right for your child.

Unbelievable.

pimplebum · 05/07/2026 18:36

pouletvous · 05/07/2026 08:05

can he get up at 5am and watch on iplayer?

This

or

dont be an uptight fun sponge - it could be a wonderful memory its not like he is operating heavy machinery the next day

i am a teacher ( who will not be staying up ) i have planned a whole day of easy non taxing lessons for those that turn up

MrsKJones · 05/07/2026 18:35

Only on mumsnet can a parent who dares to say no to their child be called controlling.

My DS is 15 and asked, jokingly, if he could watch the match. I chuckled and before I could even say no, he told me he knew the answer. My son also has SEN and need a good 9 hours sleep. He can watch England's crappy performance on catch up after school.

Its not even a semi-final. It is also nowhere near the same league as a lunar landing or eclipse which others have alluded to. SMDH

AmusedMember · 05/07/2026 18:32

My 12 year old is, he's off to bed at 8pm and will be woken up at 12.45 and then back to bed after! It's not a final, but he absolutely loves football!

dementedmummy · 05/07/2026 18:31

BlackTulipss · 05/07/2026 16:14

So he is a super happy, bright and full of the joys boy 24/7 but also an ‘easily overcome and very overwhelmed’ SEN child as you said earlier. You’re not making sense.

Yes, that's right.
Some (not all, some) children who are ND with SEN who get sensory overload and overwhelm in response to certain situations and triggers can simultaneously have happy characters and delightful personalities, lead fulfilled lives and enjoy a variety of physical activities.
Please don't stigmatise children and young people with SEN like this.

Consider this - who is going to need to look after your son tomorrow? Is he going to give the teachers a hard time because he can't cope with lack of sleep with SEN? If the answer is yes, you are correct in not letting him stay off. If simply he is going to just be a bit tired, then wake him up to see the game. If he goes to bed at 8.30 he will already have had 4.5 hours sleep then another 3.5 hours post match - not masses but still enough that a 14 year old should otherwise be able to cope with. Who knows? If he takes a quilt and pillow to the living room he might just fall asleep anyway in front of the TV.

OutAndAbouting · 05/07/2026 18:30

BlackTulipss · 05/07/2026 10:39

To respond to comments made:

  1. My DH has no intention of watching it. Don't know why certain posters are saying DH will be watching it. I never said that. He won't be. Doesn't want to. I also won't be watching. DS would watch alone.
  2. Posters saying why do I get to control things by saying no when DH is saying yes, why do I get the right to decide over what DH is saying, that signals me being controlling etc. Turn that around. If DS watches it because DH says yes even though I've said no, then does that make DH controlling over me and my opinion? Does that mean DH 'gets to control' by saying yes when I've said no? The misogyny from women themselves against other women is real. FWIW me and DH are having a completely relaxed chat about it and are listening to each other's points and are weighing up the balance, just like we always do about everything.
  3. 11 hours sleep a night was a mistake from me editing that sentence in a rush. I meant to put 10 hours. Yes. Wait for it because this might blow your minds. DS who is 14 sleeps 10 hours a night. On week days, he puts himself to bed at 8:30 and is asleep as soon as his head hits the pillow, then wakes at 6:30. And you will be even more shocked out of your heads to learn that at weekends, he puts himself to bed by 10pm and sleeps like the dead until 10am Sat/Sun. Hold on to your coffees - this is 12 hours!!!! Every single weekend!!!! And no, he doesn't need blood tests and medical appointments before you wade in with that. He's a perfectly fit, healthy, sporty boy with lots of energy in the day.
  4. I never said I would let him take the morning off school sick. I said other mums are allowing this. I never said I would. My question was about him staying up to watch it. Not about him not going to school tomorrow morning. He will be going to school regardless.
  5. I am not controlling over DS. I'm a relaxed parent of a DS who has masses of independence and free reign. He is always listened to and I happily compromise what I think in order to listen to what he thinks. Again, only on mumsnet can a post about me thinking amy DS14 staying up till 3:30/4 am on a school night isn't a good idea could it turn into a deluge of criticism about me being a controlling parent. Controlling parents say a hard no, don't listen to reason, and don't reflect by asking if they're BU on a parenting forum.
  6. DS is ND, needs a lot of rest to cope with school the next day, gets overwhelmed and overloaded quickly, has SEN which are impacted by less sleep, he also gets overstimulated quickly, and his brain tires more easily. Lack of sleep markedly increases all of the above. It is this that I'm weighing up when saying no to him staying up till 3:30/4. But because I'm listening to him asking to watch it, and because I am weighing up the sbove versus it's only 1 night, and because I am reflecting on my decision (as opposed to being controlling), I have asked AIBU.

I'm with you on all of this. Send him to school totally knackered, He won't want to do it again.

(an ex secondary school teacher)

Sorry, that was mean on your DS but you get my drift.

Szboox · 05/07/2026 18:30

I’m letting my 10 year old! Only happens once every 4 years. We are bringing our duvets down and memory making!

OutAndAbouting · 05/07/2026 18:26

This whole situation is ridiculous. What on earth is going on? It's bluddy football. I find the situation regarding football unendurable at the best of times, but it really has now gone mad.

I'm sure that my ex will refer to it as 'an important game', but every football match was 'important' to him.

It's total bollox. Do not allow your children to be ruled by it. Perhaps take them to the Bayeux Tapestry exhibition instead where they can get some worthwhile education in their history and the development of humanity.

Waheymum · 05/07/2026 18:24

You're not being unreasonable in that I don't disagree with you, but I think the PP that suggested waking him up for the match then straight back to bed was spot on. I'd follow their advice!

ClassicalQueen · 05/07/2026 18:21

It’s one day. Let him stay up, he’ll live.

Bigtrapeze · 05/07/2026 18:20

Hattermadness · 05/07/2026 18:02

Have I missed something?! It's not the final is it???
So glad we're not a footy house 🤣

Quite likely the final for England given the circumstances, sadly, but you never know!

2old2Nonsense · 05/07/2026 18:19

No, you're doing the exact right thing. Parenting isn't convenient and your child's job is education, not watching a bunch of man-children millionaires flopping around the pitch at 0100 in the morning

Don't ask anyone what they think. They have no investment in your children or their future.

Mrshockallz1726 · 05/07/2026 18:18

Nope my year 9 son is going to bed normal time and he said if they some how win he will just watch highlights online. However looking at the weather in Mexico City there is a good chance it will be delayed and he might see some before school

FlamingoFloss · 05/07/2026 18:17

Let him do it and see how tired he is tomorrow. A life lesson about why you shouldn’t always have what you think you want

sunnyandrainy · 05/07/2026 18:16

15 year old and 11 year old setting alarms to get up here. Plus it’s the end of the summer term. The least important few days of the school year!