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You do not have to be rich to have a breakdown

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UndertheCedartree · 04/07/2026 17:38

I heard this recently - you have to be rich to have a breakdown. Meaning that those who are not wealthy have to 'just get on with it.' They can't have a mental breakdown as they have to work etc.

I really disagree with this. I had a serious mental breakdown and I can assure people that psychiatric hospitals are not full of wealthy people. I think this narrative is really dangerous as it makes people think they 'don't have time' to look after their mental health and the trouble is this then means a serious breakdown is more likely and at that point it is really not a choice. When you get sectioned you don't get a choice as to if you 'want' to have a breakdown or not as you need to work.

I think this also disproportionately affects women as there is the added narrative that you have to 'just get on with it' with the home and children. The truth is there are many mothers in hospital like I was.

I encourage people to choose to look after their mental health as otherwise you may end up being forced to look after it. Obviously, I'm not saying that you can always prevent these things but early intervention seems to have better outcomes.

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JoyousOpalLemur · 04/07/2026 19:39

JabbaTheBeachHut · 04/07/2026 19:36

OP read it on another internet forum apparently but won’t say if she challenged it.

Does the OP have a link?

Why is the OP so bothered about what one random person said on a random forum that was probably just a joke?

luckylavender · 04/07/2026 19:38

UndertheCedartree · 04/07/2026 19:35

Is it? I don't think so hence starting a discussion.

I was being sarcastic

JabbaTheBeachHut · 04/07/2026 19:36

JoyousOpalLemur · 04/07/2026 19:33

Who said it to you?

Do you think they were just having a laugh or something?

OP read it on another internet forum apparently but won’t say if she challenged it.

UndertheCedartree · 04/07/2026 19:35

luckylavender · 04/07/2026 19:01

Because everything on the internet is correct

Is it? I don't think so hence starting a discussion.

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UndertheCedartree · 04/07/2026 19:34

Lexibletheflexible · 04/07/2026 18:58

Yes it is a symptom of societal inequality. But the point is this is what they are referring to when they say "poor women can't..." or "only rich people can..". They mean they can acknowledge their mental health issues and seek good treatment for them without fear.

I see what you are saying. But that narrative ignores what happens to poor women when they can't go on any longer...they lose everything including often their children. I imagine for some women they fear their children being taken if they ask for help so it is a catch 22.

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JoyousOpalLemur · 04/07/2026 19:33

UndertheCedartree · 04/07/2026 19:14

Me neither before this! It wasn't only one saying or agreeing with it either.

Who said it to you?

Do you think they were just having a laugh or something?

UndertheCedartree · 04/07/2026 19:26

CalliopeFosterBeauchamp · 04/07/2026 19:08

Thank you. I have a therapist and I’m on medication. I know what my triggers are and what is helpful. My partner is very understanding too.

I think that’s about as much as I can hope for - I don’t mean that in a self-pitying way, more realistic. I didn’t think I’d make it to 40, so to be here at all. is a small miracle in itself. Due to my childhood, I’ll always have poor mental health. I feel the best I can hope for is to be able to manage it most of the time.

I hope you’re doing ok too x

Sounds like you are doing as much as you can - and therapy and medication etc are hard work in themselves! But your insight will really hold you in good stead, even if it doesn't always feel like it. And your supportive partner is fab too.

I feel the same as you, not self pitying at all.

I am doing ok, thank you for asking. Also have a therapist and meds and luckily learnt a lot of coping skills in hospital. As I'm sure you understand life can be a struggle but I am just so grateful to still be here and have my children.

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JabbaTheBeachHut · 04/07/2026 19:24

UndertheCedartree · 04/07/2026 19:14

Me neither before this! It wasn't only one saying or agreeing with it either.

Did you challenge them?

BurnoutBee · 04/07/2026 19:20

There’s an element of truth to this. I’ve had family members who have been sectioned. They all came from extreme poverty. One had awful childhood sexual abuse. Clearly their trajectory would have happened regardless of income.

I have had a lot of barriers in my life. Mental health hasn’t always been great, but yes, I’ve definitely had to get on with it far more than someone who’s got more support or financial cushions. My sister in law being a prime example. Completely enabled by her own family of origin and husband.

I could only break down if I had experienced major trauma. Child death, severe illness, accident, injury etc. Other than that I just have to get on with it but have used very unhealthy coping mechanisms like binge eating etc to get me through. It also takes it toll on how you look and age physically - if you’ve had a lot more knocks than the average.

UndertheCedartree · 04/07/2026 19:14

JoyousOpalLemur · 04/07/2026 18:48

Literally never heard anyone say anything like this!

Me neither before this! It wasn't only one saying or agreeing with it either.

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UndertheCedartree · 04/07/2026 19:12

Mt563 · 04/07/2026 18:48

For me, i literally couldn't work. It was the oddest thing. I've always pushed through tough times and got on with it because that's what I was told to do.
Until one day something snapped and I was sat at my desk alternating between crying uncontrollably and sitting frozen and numb unable to do anything. Then I just couldn't get out of bed. It sounds ridiculous. I know. But I couldn't. It was awful.

I'm sorry to hear that. I agree eventually something breaks and you are unable to do anything. I couldn't look after my children, work, study, shower, eat, sleep, or even move off the sofa. I was suicidal and psychotic. Very frightening.

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CalliopeFosterBeauchamp · 04/07/2026 19:08

UndertheCedartree · 04/07/2026 19:01

I hope you are getting some support 🌸

Thank you. I have a therapist and I’m on medication. I know what my triggers are and what is helpful. My partner is very understanding too.

I think that’s about as much as I can hope for - I don’t mean that in a self-pitying way, more realistic. I didn’t think I’d make it to 40, so to be here at all. is a small miracle in itself. Due to my childhood, I’ll always have poor mental health. I feel the best I can hope for is to be able to manage it most of the time.

I hope you’re doing ok too x

UndertheCedartree · 04/07/2026 19:07

Frequency · 04/07/2026 18:47

Thank you. She is under a psychiatrist now and is doing much better. She has a part-time job in my friend's shop, which has helped her, in that she has a routine and it is building her confidence, but getting her to the point where she could do that was a long road. For the first few shifts, I had to go with her, or she physically could not bring herself to do it, even though she really wanted the job.

That's good to hear. And lovely she has you and your friend to support her with the job - I imagine that must mean the world to her.

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ChalkOutlines · 04/07/2026 19:07

Sounds like my mother. Growing up depression was for bored housewives and rich people. 🙄

LoafofSellotape · 04/07/2026 19:04

UndertheCedartree · 04/07/2026 18:46

Where did I say that?!

I'm agreeing with your OP.

luckylavender · 04/07/2026 19:01

UndertheCedartree · 04/07/2026 17:59

It was on another Internet forum.

Because everything on the internet is correct

UndertheCedartree · 04/07/2026 19:01

CalliopeFosterBeauchamp · 04/07/2026 18:42

Meant to add to my long post above: the reason I went freelance was so I can work from home. I have days where I can’t eat or shower or where I can’t stop crying. If I’m at home, no one sees that so I can mask.

I hope you are getting some support 🌸

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UndertheCedartree · 04/07/2026 18:59

CalliopeFosterBeauchamp · 04/07/2026 18:39

I’ve had severe chronic depression, anxiety and suicidal ideation since I was 12. I’ve been on antidepressants (which keep the very worst of it at bay but will never ‘cure’ it) for 30 years. And I’ve recently been diagnosed with autism and PTSD.

I’ve often felt unable to work due to my mental health; certainly I struggle to socialise most of the time because of it. I’ve definitely had weeks where I’ve not been functioning: where I’ve struggled to get out of bed and have felt that I really needed help.

I’ve had two breakdowns - one in my early 20s where I was diagnosed with severe depression and anxiety, and one in my 40s that led me to be diagnosed with PTSD. Both times I could only afford to take a few days off.

I’m now a freelancer so don’t get sick pay, but when I was working in a permanent role, I had so much time off with my mental health that I stopped receiving sick pay from my employer anyway. So I had to keep working, or I would have lost my home. I lived in London at the time and benefits wouldn’t have covered my bills and rent (I did look into it).

So in that sense, I do sort of disagree with your title. I guess if I’d been even more unwell than I was, I wouldn’t have been thinking of my home or my bills - but as it was, I thought “if I come out the other side if this, I’ll need somewhere to live”. The thought of putting my stuff into storage and what would happen if I gave up work (the admin and the cost of renting with bad references - that sort of thing) - was just beyond me. It was easier to just carry on. If I’d been wealthy, I’d have taken the time off I needed and not worried about anything other than my health.

I have a friend who has similar mental health problems to me. She lives in a flat that her dad has given to her, so doesn’t need to pay rent. She’s now stopped work altogether (in her 40s) because she’s not well enough to work - and I admit, I’m jealous that this is an option for her. She’s always saying to me that I need to take a break and I just say I can’t afford to.

I realise that at some point my mental health might get so bad that I’m forced into a complete break from work, but at the moment the fear of losing my home and belongings and also the administrative nightmare of getting back on my feet is what keeps me going.

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All I would say, is please seek as much support for your mental health now as sadly, I was like you but there came a point that I was unable to even have an awareness of bills or mortgage. I physically couldn't work, eat, sleep, shower...anything never mind care for my children. It is better to take a break than lose everything!

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BeigeCardigan · 04/07/2026 18:59

UndertheCedartree · 04/07/2026 18:37

As I said I'm not saying that isn't serious and deserves all the empathy and support. I've been there and it's tough. I'm still there a lot of the time. But sometimes it becomes more serious to the point you can't mask anymore, you can't function atall, you've not slept for weeks, are underweight and frail from not eating and are psychotic and attempting (and sometimes completing) suicide. You fully breakdown and may be hospitalised for a long time. You do not have a choice to work or care for your children anymore. What I'm saying is we shouldn't be encouraged to 'just get on with it' because we aren't wealthy or have children until it gets to that point. As you say there are very real needs for treatment and support before it gets to that point.

You’re ignoring the fact that some of us can mask when others can’t. In fact, for some, the illness is what allows the masking, despite being very seriously unwell.

Not everyone that becomes severely unwell gets sectioned either.

Lexibletheflexible · 04/07/2026 18:58

UndertheCedartree · 04/07/2026 18:51

I don't think poorer people should have to create this illusion...which only goes so far before you can't keep up the illusion anymore and are unable to function. I think it is a dangerous narrative even more so for poor mums having 2 reasons 'to get on with it.'

Yes it is a symptom of societal inequality. But the point is this is what they are referring to when they say "poor women can't..." or "only rich people can..". They mean they can acknowledge their mental health issues and seek good treatment for them without fear.

UndertheCedartree · 04/07/2026 18:52

Frequency · 04/07/2026 18:38

What tends to happen if they are severely ill is they get sectioned and lose custody of their children, or in situations where they are very ill but not ill enough for authorities to notice, they start self-medicating with drugs/alcohol, and often they still end up losing their kids because of it, but with the bonus of being deemed scum by the general public.

No one who is seriously mentally ill is just getting on with it because they have no choice.

Yes, exactly. Whereas perhaps if they didn't feel the need to just keep going they could get help earlier and avoid losing their children.

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UndertheCedartree · 04/07/2026 18:51

Lexibletheflexible · 04/07/2026 18:32

It's a simplistic way of talking about the very real phenomenon of poorer people having to normalise situational mental health conditions like depression and anxiety can be. Of course you are going to be depressed and anxious if you have to continually compete for basic resources and safety. That feeling of insecurity and apprehension becomes ordinary for poorer people and they can't afford to allow that to stop them trying to survive. They have to develop an inhuman resilience to it, but of course they do not.

They become ill. Mentally and physically. Their relationships suffer. Their dependents suffer. The illusion that they are "just getting on with it" is just that.

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I don't think poorer people should have to create this illusion...which only goes so far before you can't keep up the illusion anymore and are unable to function. I think it is a dangerous narrative even more so for poor mums having 2 reasons 'to get on with it.'

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JoyousOpalLemur · 04/07/2026 18:48

Literally never heard anyone say anything like this!

Scalagala · 04/07/2026 18:48

It’s strange OP. Arguably the reverse is more true i.e. you can pay for more support. People (some) come out with all sorts of ridiculous theories. It’s as stupid as the argument that people who are self-employed don’t get life changing illnesses.

Mt563 · 04/07/2026 18:48

JJkate · 04/07/2026 17:58

Can anyone tell me what a breakdown actually is? I don't understand what it means.

For me, i literally couldn't work. It was the oddest thing. I've always pushed through tough times and got on with it because that's what I was told to do.
Until one day something snapped and I was sat at my desk alternating between crying uncontrollably and sitting frozen and numb unable to do anything. Then I just couldn't get out of bed. It sounds ridiculous. I know. But I couldn't. It was awful.