To think there's a lot of hypocrisy on here about feminism and long hair?

God I hope not. But it wouldn't surprise me.

I always find a huge amount of support on here when a woman asks if she should shave her head with posters queuing up to tell her to do it and that thwy jave done it too. Irl it's extremely rare a woman would do this.

is your mum on Mumsnet, and if so is she expressing these views on the feminism board?

Aye.
What's going on today? There's been a few of these utterly moronic posts in the last few hours. Has there been a clarion call somewhere?

You can’t go from single instances to whole generalisations though without an intermediate stage

Nuanced debate died on here about 20 years ago 😁😁😁
(yes I’ve been in here on and off fir that long 😂😂)

My mum used to go on and on about how women over 40 shouldn't have long hair, it was unbecoming, slutty, mutton dressed as lamb etc.

She's 64 now with hair down to her shoulders, has never cut it. Totally denies she ever said it!

Now goes on about how short hair is aging!

Yanbu OP.

I thought everyone saw short hair as more radical and feminist for a woman! I've never seen it criticised tbh

Im 40 in december and my hair is down my back after i shaved it off 2 and half years ago.
My sister 42 has a shved head number 4 all over, shes had this style for years.

Neither of us care what others think and neither of us care what others have.

But I asked for evidence to support her position - you know data … which sounds like a key part of any intellectual debate surely ?

She’s only interested in intellectual debate, apparently, and we’re all falling woefully short …

I didn’t see much room for nuanced debate in your OP. I saw a bit of insulting women who dared to keep long hair as desperate to avoid ageing and ‘copying gen z’.

I actually think having short hair is more of an act of feminism while long hair is seen as ‘feminine’ (if either choice is; I mean it’s just hair and hair doesn’t close the gender pay gap or decide who’s taking the bins out).

You sound as though you don’t believe a feminist can have long hair (can she wear lipstick? Short skirts?) but I’m tired, I’m hot, and this is Mumsnet not the Oxford Union, so I may be missing your point nuance.

Not seen this but I have seen plenty saying that long hair is aging.

Nor me.

It's just hair and the majority tend not to give a shit what others do with theirs.

What a misogynistic post. Stick with your scones, Anya. Leave the feminism to women who are interested in feminism.

Nope. Never seen this type of comment.

I haven't seen any threads about this, op, but the explanation might be that MN has more than one user, I believe.

You get a few tone deaf posts on every thread, but I’ve never once seen anyone criticising a poster’s choice of haircut. The consensus is always ‘however you feel most comfortable’, regardless of age, weight or any other metric that women feel judged by.

You lost me anyway at ‘Karen hair’. How in the ever living fuck are you creating a post about feminism and not understanding the hypocrisy of including a misogynistic slur aimed specifically at silencing middle aged women?

I’ve never noticed that issue re hairstyles (especially not on the feminism board) but I do see quite a few generally bashing feminists and feminism. And also criticising ‘mumsnet’ in general because of the views expressed on various issues by small subsets of posters.🤷‍♀️

You wouldn't BU if Mumsnetters were collectively characterising hairstyles as un/feminist at certain life stages. I've never seen this, however. I'm on here far too much and my favourite boards are FWR and S&B, so I'd be aware if there were more than a random sprinkling of comments to that effect.

It's an utterly batshit premise and, like everywhere else, there are some batshit people around.

Encouraging women to grow hair isn't quite the same as attributing a political value to the length of an older woman's hair, is it?

It's mostly - sure, grow your hair, you can always cut it if you don't like it after all; and - sure, cut your hair, you can grow it again if you change your mind. So far, so normal!

Last hair thread I was on was about graduated bobs. I'm old and have recently got this cut. Prior to that, I was old with long hair. Feminism unchanged.

Karen is a misogynistic insult .

Is this in Style and Beauty? If so, that's why I've never seen it.

.Hair can be a feminist issue - but more about the pressure to colour it.

I have experienced negativity about very short hairstyles personally - but that's a negative association with perceived sexuality usually - so homophobia.

People have opinions. Its literally the basis for discussion forums.

I imagine these threads are mostly in style and beauty? And yet posters are saying to grow your hair long as a feminist act, rather than because they think it looks nice or in fashion? Seems unlikely. Or is it that people are starting threads on FWR about their hairstyles? Also unlikely.
Feminism isn't just about choice by the way.