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AIBU to object to an older child sitting directly in a food trolley?

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KidsDoBetter · 02/07/2026 07:35

Local m&s food hall. An older lady (presumably) grandma - is wheeling around one of the small size metal shopping trolleys. Inside it is a girl about 8 cross-legged (she takes up most of the space obvs) wearing a pair of crocs. The soles of which are filthy (as indeed would be mine). Chatting away and delighted with herself. It was lovely she was enjoying being with her granny. No signs of disability (later saw them in car park).

As they stood beside me I did say “that looks like fun but you do know people put their food in there and you’ve got your shoes in it”. Grandma tutted and said “forget about it” in a slight non-sequitur . But it’s gross right. This was not a baby / toddler seat trolley. Nor was the child any younger than 7 max …

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AussieManque · 02/07/2026 11:11

My son always climbs into the trolley and honestly I've NEVER thought about the fact he's got his shoes on. I assume the trolley trolley is disgusting anyway so my concern is more that he doesn't lick any part of it. The stuff that goes at the bottom of the trolley is things like packets of detergent that are going on the floor at home so it's really not a concern.
And we're a zero shoes indoors household, if that makes a difference.

flagpolesitta · 02/07/2026 11:08

DearMissMapp · 02/07/2026 10:59

Really!

I'm going to give some examples and I want you to imagine that the offender is a woman in all cases. I say this because if it was a man, it might make sense, for personal safety, not to intervene but even then, I hope you would seek help.

Anyway, here goes with our offending woman whose actions do not have any effect on your own life.

Would you chastise or intervene if you saw someone in the car next to you emptying the rubbish from their car onto the ground?

Would you chastise or intervene if you saw a dog locked in a car with closed windows in a heatwave?

Would you chastise or intervene if you saw a cyclist riding on a pavement and knocking over an old person?

Would you chastise or intervene if you saw a teenagers playing roughly on park equipment designed for tots?

Would you chastise or intervene if someone had a shit on the pavement?

Would you chastise intervene if someone racially abused a stranger sitting next to you on the bus?

Would you chastise or intervene if you saw someone spit on fresh produce in the supermarket?

Would you chastise or intervene if you saw a man hit a woman?

Would you take charge of a three year old who was clearly lost?

If we all took your attitude-nothing to do wiv me mate-society will soon fall apart at a faster rate then it is already doing.

Your attitude is nothing to boast about because one day, someone will do something morally or criminally wrong that does affect you and no-one will come to help.

OP. You did exactly the right thing.

Hopefully you shamed this shameless woman because it is about time that shame and judgement became forces that helped to keep those, who cannot discipline themselves, in check.

Well done!

🤣🤣🤣

A child sat in a shopping trolley is akin to racist abuse, domestic violence, locking dogs in hot cars and shitting on the pavement 😭

I love mumsnet so much

2dogsandabudgie · 02/07/2026 11:03

I always judge people who put their children in the main part of the trolley. Scummy behaviour.

Dreamyposter · 02/07/2026 11:03

Greenwriter76 · 02/07/2026 11:01

Wow.

I’ve never even considered the hygiene (or lack of) of trolleys 😅

I assume most M&S food is packaged so is not directly touching the trolley?!

Do you not take the food out of its packaging and rub it against the poo trolley?

I do. My immune system is iron strong now!

Greenwriter76 · 02/07/2026 11:01

KidsDoBetter · 02/07/2026 07:35

Local m&s food hall. An older lady (presumably) grandma - is wheeling around one of the small size metal shopping trolleys. Inside it is a girl about 8 cross-legged (she takes up most of the space obvs) wearing a pair of crocs. The soles of which are filthy (as indeed would be mine). Chatting away and delighted with herself. It was lovely she was enjoying being with her granny. No signs of disability (later saw them in car park).

As they stood beside me I did say “that looks like fun but you do know people put their food in there and you’ve got your shoes in it”. Grandma tutted and said “forget about it” in a slight non-sequitur . But it’s gross right. This was not a baby / toddler seat trolley. Nor was the child any younger than 7 max …

Wow.

I’ve never even considered the hygiene (or lack of) of trolleys 😅

I assume most M&S food is packaged so is not directly touching the trolley?!

Larsaleaping · 02/07/2026 11:00

You know people put all sorts in trolleys, like multipacks of drinks that have been sitting on dirty warehouse floors.
Most trolleys live outside where birds can poo on them, the horror!
Just give trolleys a wipe if you're so bothered.

I always wipe trolleys/baskets due to food allergies, that's more concerning to me that there might be remains of food left behind from an unsealed container.

Jijithecat · 02/07/2026 10:59

The safety aspect is what really bothers me. It's really not hard to see how an accident would happen. And they do as this Mumsnetter will attest.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4510034-Child-fell-out-of-shopping-trolley-worried

But don't worry there are indeed no win no fee law firms who specialise in supermarket trolley accidents which perhaps indicates just how common it is.

Child fell out of shopping trolley - worried | Mumsnet

NC for this because I’m feeling like the worst mum. DS (3 years) was due for a nap but quite wound up (he is starting to skip naps but got up quite ea...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4510034-Child-fell-out-of-shopping-trolley-worried

DearMissMapp · 02/07/2026 10:59

Upstartled · 02/07/2026 09:08

No. I wouldn't do it. But I do think it's busybody behaviour to chastise people for actions that have no effect on your own life.

Really!

I'm going to give some examples and I want you to imagine that the offender is a woman in all cases. I say this because if it was a man, it might make sense, for personal safety, not to intervene but even then, I hope you would seek help.

Anyway, here goes with our offending woman whose actions do not have any effect on your own life.

Would you chastise or intervene if you saw someone in the car next to you emptying the rubbish from their car onto the ground?

Would you chastise or intervene if you saw a dog locked in a car with closed windows in a heatwave?

Would you chastise or intervene if you saw a cyclist riding on a pavement and knocking over an old person?

Would you chastise or intervene if you saw a teenagers playing roughly on park equipment designed for tots?

Would you chastise or intervene if someone had a shit on the pavement?

Would you chastise intervene if someone racially abused a stranger sitting next to you on the bus?

Would you chastise or intervene if you saw someone spit on fresh produce in the supermarket?

Would you chastise or intervene if you saw a man hit a woman?

Would you take charge of a three year old who was clearly lost?

If we all took your attitude-nothing to do wiv me mate-society will soon fall apart at a faster rate then it is already doing.

Your attitude is nothing to boast about because one day, someone will do something morally or criminally wrong that does affect you and no-one will come to help.

OP. You did exactly the right thing.

Hopefully you shamed this shameless woman because it is about time that shame and judgement became forces that helped to keep those, who cannot discipline themselves, in check.

Well done!

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 02/07/2026 10:57

SwirlyGates · 02/07/2026 10:26

I don't understand why the two topics always go like this, in opposing directions

  • OP objects to child in trolley, people say OP is a busybody, should mind their own business, pearl-clutching, don't you have anything better to do yada yada
  • OP wants visitors to take their shoes off in OP's house, people say OP is completely right, shoes in a house are disgusting, what about dog mess, etc. (see recent thread on whether it's normal to remove shoes when viewing a house)

Very true

MRB21 · 02/07/2026 10:55

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 02/07/2026 10:54

That's just mean and a personal attack on the OP

OP is being mean and personally attacking the grandmother who is lovely enough to look after her granddaughter doing normal day to day activities

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 02/07/2026 10:54

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That's just mean and a personal attack on the OP

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 02/07/2026 10:50

FlyingApple · 02/07/2026 09:21

I honestly don't care, what a pointless reply 😂

It's a pretty to the point reply - an eight year old,d in a trolley is very different to an 18 month o,d in a trolley!

ChocolateApples · 02/07/2026 10:48

Some trolleys and baskets are absolutely filthy. I do think the supermarkets ought to be giving them a hose down occasionally. But I also doubted they're going to harm me. Would be nice if we had some bags to put fruit in though, Sainsbury's.

JudgeJ · 02/07/2026 10:45

ShowOfHands · 02/07/2026 07:38

I'm never particularly worried about the hygiene side of things. Probably very different for an M&S trolley as they're indoors I think but most trolleys are outside and filthy anyway. As a student, I used to work in a supermarket overnight and the foxes and rats were always amongst the trolleys.

What does worry me is what happens when a trolley tips up with a child in it. I've seen it happen once and it was catastrophic. Supermarket floors are not forgiving and especially in the smaller trolleys, you're falling from a height.

If the trolley tips because of having a large child in there then it's a nice little earner, the supermarket will probably get the blame by some sleazy legal eagle.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 02/07/2026 10:43

Maybeitllneverhappen · 02/07/2026 08:43

Not joining in this debate, but as an interesting side note, the supermarket (Super U) we use in Brittany has had a trolley cleaner since COVID. It's like a big airport metal detector that you push the trolley through and it cleans it!

Nice!

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 02/07/2026 10:41

MRB21 · 02/07/2026 08:40

Disability or no disability - poster you are out of line and should have walked on by. Never heard any post so ridiculous in my life. Go enjoy your day and let members of the public do the same

"Never heard any post so ridiculous in my life"

Clearly you've only been on Mumsnet for 20 minutes or so - OP's is a benign and somewhat unremarkable post

Thawtfulpanda · 02/07/2026 10:36

I put my 7 year old in one last week. We had just been to A&E for a knee injury and were told to go straight to the shop to pick up a prescription for him. So it was either in the trolley, or me dragging his body across the floor by a wrist because I can't physically pick him up. Or leaving him in the car on his own in 30 degree temperatures.

IggysPop · 02/07/2026 10:34

I saw a trolly tip about 10 years ago. Happened in seconds - none of us could stop it. Head crack directly onto floor. Ambulance called.

BillieWiper · 02/07/2026 10:34

You can visibly see the dirt in the bottom of shopping trolleys. The plastic pull along ones from Lidls anyway! So the metal mesh style ones are just as dirty it's just not as easy to see.

The packets of food themselves could be dirty and have had vermin running all over them in the warehouse anyway?!

And the trolleys could also have animals in them if they're left out overnight.

So basically I wouldn't be bothered as I don't put loose unpackaged food in there anyway. If I had a pastry or something in a paper bag I'd put it on top of the other shopping or just hold it.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 02/07/2026 10:34

Honeyhonayboo · 02/07/2026 07:59

Why though?
The people who go around eye rolling and tutting at people are beyond fucking exhausting, get a life.

Yeah, I'd rather someone actually said their (unwelcome) comment than tutting and eye rolling. When I'm feeling sparky - well, when I'm sure a tutter is eye rolling at me - I'll ask them in my best middle England tones as to whether there's something they'd like to say to me. They then move from being tutters to stutterers...

NewGoldFox · 02/07/2026 10:33

I agree it’s gross. Shows no consideration for the people who will be using the trolley after them but that seems to be the way of things.

CointreauVersial · 02/07/2026 10:32

Perhaps it's not a good time to tell the story of when DD2 had an exploding nappy while sitting in a supermarket trolley seat - everything shot up her back and overflowed the waistband, into the trolley of food behind her.

Yes, I cleaned up as best I could (supermarket had no loos or changing facilities, so this was done on the floor of the stock room), but that poor trolley was never the same again....

Velumental · 02/07/2026 10:29

EarlofShrewsbury · 02/07/2026 07:46

My local tesco have recently got disability trolleys for older children that still need a seat.

Before that though I would have put her in the main bit. Her disability isn't obvious but it's not safe to have her loose on the shop floor.

Trolleys have rats and everything climb all over them.

Keep your beak out in future.

My 8 yr old would be running round a park happy, climbing and sociable. However I make a point of not taking him into a supermarket as it's too overstimulating. He cannot concentrate to follow instructions, get freaked out and runs wild. Now if I HAVE to take him in for something I obviously keep him beside me insist on hand holding, but he's bigger now and if he objects and has a meltdown I'm there in an aisle waiting it out with a flailing screaming kid whose almost as big as me. So the odd time if he asks to sit in the trolley or I NEED him to go in and I know he won't cooperate I occasionally put him in the body of the trolley. I don't like it but needs must occasionally

SwirlyGates · 02/07/2026 10:26

MrsShawnHatosy · 02/07/2026 08:36

But the soles will be covered in dogshit and wee, that’s why people insist that visitors to their home take their shoes off isn’t it?

I don't understand why the two topics always go like this, in opposing directions

  • OP objects to child in trolley, people say OP is a busybody, should mind their own business, pearl-clutching, don't you have anything better to do yada yada
  • OP wants visitors to take their shoes off in OP's house, people say OP is completely right, shoes in a house are disgusting, what about dog mess, etc. (see recent thread on whether it's normal to remove shoes when viewing a house)
Restlessdreams1994 · 02/07/2026 10:23

YABU to think trolleys are clean enough to put food in. How often do you think they are washed?

YA also BU to police someone else’s parenting when it wasn’t affecting you in the slightest.

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