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DH stoping paying CMS

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donewiththistakemeaway · 29/06/2026 10:25

My husband told his ex-partner — the mother of his two oldest children — a year ago that he planned to leave his job within the next 12 months. She has never worked, and for the last 9 years he has paid her £1,500 per month voluntarily, even though the Child Maintenance Service calculates the correct amount should only be around £300.

The kids stayed with us for 10 nights a month, matching my husband’s days off. Between us, we did all school runs, clubs, meals, and bedtime routines — returning them to their mother around 8pm each evening. They couldn’t stay more nights because my husband’s shift pattern meant leaving at 5pm, driving 2 hours, working until 7am, and getting home by 9am. This would have left me alone caring for all 5 children while also working, handling all household tasks, and managing their activities. Meanwhile, their mother only had to put them to bed around 9pm, yet received far more money than required. We also take all five children to their clubs and activities every weekend.

My husband has now left that job — he was exhausted, and after 12 years of hard work, my own business has become successful enough for me to be the main earner. He reminded his ex repeatedly over the year that this change was coming and that his income would no longer support those higher payments.

He explained that he is now available full-time: he can offer full custody, 50/50 shared care, or flexible arrangements — whatever works for the children. He will be there for school runs, sickness, doctors’ appointments, school events, and anything else they need. The only change is that he can no longer make those payments.

This has caused a huge reaction. She is angry, calling him names and saying she won’t be able to afford her home. He asked her to consider getting a job, or for her new partner to contribute financially ( he does not work either) but she has threatened to involve a solicitor — claiming that if my husband stops paying, I must cover the cost because I’m so flush.

I do not believe this is my responsibility. To keep things calm, I offered to pay the £500 per month which sis still more that what the CMS says is the correct amount, but this is still not enough for her. She won’t stop us seeing the children, as she only cares for them a few hours a day and enjoys having her evenings free with her partner.

My main worry is whether there is any legal loophole that would force my husband to keep paying that higher sum just to maintain her lifestyle?

OP posts:
JudgeJ · 29/06/2026 16:27

HermioneWeasley · 29/06/2026 10:38

The kids haven’t stopped costing money just because he’s decided to give up his job - that’s not a luxury you have when you have kids. It’s not your responsibility it’s his (or 50% he shares with their mother). Depending on what happened before they split up, if they jointly agreed that she would give up work and reduce her earning potential to be the main parent then she simply isn’t as able to cover 50% of the costs due to joint decisions.

£300 a month for 2 kids when he’s only had them 10 nights a month is laughable - he’s not a prince for paying £1500 which is the bare minimum for 2 kids to have bedrooms, water, food etc.

As their mother chooses to be lazy I think she's getting a good deal, his biggest mistake was paying her far more than he needed to. Indeed, children are not a luxury, it's a pity that their 'mother' is treating them like ATMs.

NotSure222 · 29/06/2026 16:25

so you have his kids for 20 days a month and she has them for 10 days a month?

WhistPie · 29/06/2026 16:24

Ubertomusic · 29/06/2026 16:21

So the house is NOT hers and she WILL be kicked out.

Which bit of:
yes the house is hers. How many times. It is her home. DH GAVE IT TO HER YEARS AGO. He has NO CLAIM ON IT! He can not take it off her. It is in her name. It is HER HOME.

do you not understand?

Zero2ten · 29/06/2026 16:23

Rescind the £500 offer. You’re not responsible for paying for her.
Of course she’s going to chance her arm and complain. She’s had her lifestyle paid for her for the past 10 years. Time she looks after herself.

not sure why your dh is getting a hard time for retiring to look after the kids. I think it’s great he wants to spend time with the kids. No one would be so up in arms if it was the other way round. As a family unit you’re fully supporting all 5 kids.

donewiththistakemeaway · 29/06/2026 16:22

Ubertomusic · 29/06/2026 16:21

So the house is NOT hers and she WILL be kicked out.

What on earth are you on about I meant he didn’t HAND HER the house for her because it was for her it was because he wanted his children to stay in the family home and obviously being children he couldn’t put them as the owners.

OP posts:
dancehysterical151 · 29/06/2026 16:22

ShetlandishMum · 29/06/2026 10:52

Dont pay.

but of course I would like my ex to pay £1500 a month. It's more than many get from full time working...

Not true. NMW full time salary (37.5 hour week) is around £24,00 a year which works out roughly £1700 pcm.

Ubertomusic · 29/06/2026 16:21

donewiththistakemeaway · 29/06/2026 16:01

He didn’t hand her the house

its the house his children had only even known

So the house is NOT hers and she WILL be kicked out.

Preeeeee · 29/06/2026 16:11

Ubertomusic · 29/06/2026 16:09

Exactly. PP cancelled her step child's benefit, this will affect her PIP entitlement as she won't have the history of DLA payments to refer back to. She will struggle in her adult life but PP obviously couldn't care less as it's only a step child and will be off her hands completely when she's 16-18.

And PP has the audacity to lambast the child's mother 🤦‍♀️

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She’s not entitled to benefits as she doesn’t have care needs above and beyond others her age. Do you honestly think a teenager who can care for all facets of their personal care, cook and prepare meals, get themselves independently to school on public transport, sees friends and goes to parties at the weekend, should be claiming disability benefits?

We’re instilling an ethic of working hard and having a sense of pride, accepting your differences but finding ways to work with them, not relying on the state.

Ubertomusic · 29/06/2026 16:09

ThreadGuardDog · 29/06/2026 15:50

Nope. It’s you who are wrong. Disability benefits are not awarded simply because you are disabled. They are assessed and awarded according to the impact of that disability on daily life. Plenty of disabled people, including those with Autism, are not entitled to disability benefits because they don’t meet the thresholds set for claiming those benefits. I have to caveat that by saying I’m a bit concerned that the poster cancelled the benefit for her DSD based on her own perception of her needs. Child DLA is a very hard benefit to claim and it has to be demonstrated that the childs’ needs are significantly above those of a child without the disability. If DSD has been assessed purely on paperwork then fair enough - there’s room for exaggeration - but if she’s had a face to face assessment then the poster is assuming a medical professional is wrong without knowing the basis on which DSD was awarded. And it will certainly be harder for DSD to claim PIP in the future should her needs change, because the claim will be linked with the old DLA claim.

Exactly. PP cancelled her step child's benefit, this will affect her PIP entitlement as she won't have the history of DLA payments to refer back to. She will struggle in her adult life but PP obviously couldn't care less as it's only a step child and will be off her hands completely when she's 16-18.

And PP has the audacity to lambast the child's mother 🤦‍♀️

Preeeeee · 29/06/2026 16:05

ThreadGuardDog · 29/06/2026 16:02

Sounds like a case for mandatory face to face assessments to be honest. I know that medical evidence has to be produced to support the paper claim, but generally medics don’t provide evidence that clarifies care/mobility needs in terms of the assessment criteria, so there’s always room for exaggeration if the claimant isn’t actually seen. The same is true of PIP, but F2F assessments are being phased back in and hopefully will become the norm before long.

Oh absolutely, I think any person claiming disability benefits should be required to have face to face / phone call / online assessments. Paperwork can be faked and exaggerated, I am sure my DPs ex is only one of many making these phoney benefit claims.

ThreadGuardDog · 29/06/2026 16:02

Preeeeee · 29/06/2026 15:57

It was based on paperwork alone.

DSD lived with us 50/50 for 3 years, now has lived with us full time for a year, so I can confidently say she is not entitled to disability benefits. As an aside, I have a child who does have extra care needs and IS entitled to DLA, so I know very well the requirements.

Her mother’s job title may as well be ‘professional benefit thief’, as that is what her income has been for the past 20+ years.

Sounds like a case for mandatory face to face assessments to be honest. I know that medical evidence has to be produced to support the paper claim, but generally medics don’t provide evidence that clarifies care/mobility needs in terms of the assessment criteria, so there’s always room for exaggeration if the claimant isn’t actually seen. The same is true of PIP, but F2F assessments are being phased back in and hopefully will become the norm before long.

donewiththistakemeaway · 29/06/2026 16:01

FoldItIn · 29/06/2026 15:59

I am honestly gobsmacked that 1. He handed her a whole house and 2. He paid her £1,500 a month when she barely has the kids and doesn't provide barely any meals or for any extras.
Tbf to her, she has done rather well and I admire the grit. She's financially done rather well for herself, she got a free house!

He didn’t hand her the house

its the house his children had only even known

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HortiGal · 29/06/2026 16:01

@Beamsssdo you struggle with comprehension?
The D.C. are 14/16, their mother and her partner don’t work, never have: rely on OPs DH to fund them. Her kids literally only sleep in her house and all their time is at their dads.
She has no excuse not to work and support her kids, women like this are repellent.

donewiththistakemeaway · 29/06/2026 15:59

Ubertomusic · 29/06/2026 15:57

Is the house solely in her name? Yes or no?
Everything else is rubbish.

Everything else is rubbish?

yes the house is hers. How many times. It is her home. DH GAVE IT TO HER YEARS AGO. He has NO CLAIM ON IT! He can not take it off her. It is in her name. It is HER HOME. Have you answered your question enough times in this post now

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FoldItIn · 29/06/2026 15:59

I am honestly gobsmacked that 1. He handed her a whole house and 2. He paid her £1,500 a month when she barely has the kids and doesn't provide barely any meals or for any extras.
Tbf to her, she has done rather well and I admire the grit. She's financially done rather well for herself, she got a free house!

Ubertomusic · 29/06/2026 15:57

donewiththistakemeaway · 29/06/2026 15:35

i think this thread has got a bit out of hand I was only worried if there was a chance the ex could come after me for money.

a few posters really haven't understood well or read anything I’ve said and have just made things up.

to make it clear my DH isn’t just stopping work to sit on his ass he’s doing it so it’s my turn to sort my career out and he can be there for all his children.

I don’t think in any world it’s unreasonable for a grown healthy woman to finally get a job in her 40s to support her children that she has never contributed to in 14 and 16 years.

my DH has done his best 30 odd years working a physical job is enough. Yes he could get another job in an office or something but then I’m stuck doing all the childcare regardless. Him stopping working so he gets more time with all the children and helps me with my childcare responsibilities means I get to provide for all of us and have my sense of worth.

he never paid her £300 no idea where that came from he’s always paid her £1500. She has had 1 years notice and many reminders.

DH pays for all clubs and uniform and school trips.

the house she lives in is paid off. She will never be kicked out.

she has had £1500 a month for bills, food and luxuries.

the kids eat at our home 7/7 days, clothes washing, clubs and after school pick ups are 100 percent done in our home

the kids are in my home until 8pm every day of the year

10 nights a month the kids stay with us. On those days we also do the morning school run. it is 5 days short of 50/50. Ex gets £1500 a month for years for doing 5 nights more than in our home.

I have offered her £500

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Is the house solely in her name? Yes or no?
Everything else is rubbish.

Preeeeee · 29/06/2026 15:57

ThreadGuardDog · 29/06/2026 15:50

Nope. It’s you who are wrong. Disability benefits are not awarded simply because you are disabled. They are assessed and awarded according to the impact of that disability on daily life. Plenty of disabled people, including those with Autism, are not entitled to disability benefits because they don’t meet the thresholds set for claiming those benefits. I have to caveat that by saying I’m a bit concerned that the poster cancelled the benefit for her DSD based on her own perception of her needs. Child DLA is a very hard benefit to claim and it has to be demonstrated that the childs’ needs are significantly above those of a child without the disability. If DSD has been assessed purely on paperwork then fair enough - there’s room for exaggeration - but if she’s had a face to face assessment then the poster is assuming a medical professional is wrong without knowing the basis on which DSD was awarded. And it will certainly be harder for DSD to claim PIP in the future should her needs change, because the claim will be linked with the old DLA claim.

It was based on paperwork alone.

DSD lived with us 50/50 for 3 years, now has lived with us full time for a year, so I can confidently say she is not entitled to disability benefits. As an aside, I have a child who does have extra care needs and IS entitled to DLA, so I know very well the requirements.

Her mother’s job title may as well be ‘professional benefit thief’, as that is what her income has been for the past 20+ years.

FullLondonEye · 29/06/2026 15:57

Beamsss · 29/06/2026 11:19

You're not responsible, but it's a shitty thing for a father to do. Just stop working with no plan to support his DC? Not a man I'd want to be married to.

Have you actually read the full thread?🙄

Yep, there are a lot of shitty fathers around who do exactly what you're saying but this is quite clearly not one of them.

LeftBoobGoneRogue · 29/06/2026 15:52

D0RA · 29/06/2026 13:16

It’s based on his taxable income not just earned income. And not on household household income.

It’s based on the number of nights with each parent not the time they are collected or returned.

The fact that you take the children to their clubs and activities while they are with you is not a flex, it’s called being a parent .

You can’t expect the resident parent to change their whole pattern of life just because the non resident parent has quit his job. it has to be what’s best for the children, which 99% of the time is stability.

Your story that your husband has quit his job because he’s “ tired “ of working after 12 years is totally pathetic and doesn’t convince a single person reading this. It’s perfectly obvious to everyone here ( and it will be to everyone he knows) that he is doing this to avoid paying for his two children .

I know you think you are very clever and that he’s the first NRP in the Uk to have thought of this clever scam but it’s common as muck. yes it’s legal but it’s immoral.

I hope you are proud of being with a deadbeat dad. Remember he will do the same to you when you moves on to the next woman.

Once his children are old enough to understand what he has done, they will despise him for it.

As he is claiming no earned income, his ex will probably put in an appeal to CMS based on other types of income. I hope she does that and wins.

@D0RAhave you actually read the thread?
The mother and her partner don’t work and live in a house which was totally paid for by the father. Plus he paid £1500pm when the CMS calculation was £300.
The father has worked in a physically demanding manual job for 30 years and is exhausted. The OP have the DC after school ber day and feed them dinner, take them to clubs etc. The mother has them for an hour a day and puts them to bed , gives them breakfast and drops to school and that’s about it. The mother is a lazy CF.

ThreadGuardDog · 29/06/2026 15:50

Ubertomusic · 29/06/2026 15:22

Having autism does notentitle you to benefits

You're wrong on this, too.

Nope. It’s you who are wrong. Disability benefits are not awarded simply because you are disabled. They are assessed and awarded according to the impact of that disability on daily life. Plenty of disabled people, including those with Autism, are not entitled to disability benefits because they don’t meet the thresholds set for claiming those benefits. I have to caveat that by saying I’m a bit concerned that the poster cancelled the benefit for her DSD based on her own perception of her needs. Child DLA is a very hard benefit to claim and it has to be demonstrated that the childs’ needs are significantly above those of a child without the disability. If DSD has been assessed purely on paperwork then fair enough - there’s room for exaggeration - but if she’s had a face to face assessment then the poster is assuming a medical professional is wrong without knowing the basis on which DSD was awarded. And it will certainly be harder for DSD to claim PIP in the future should her needs change, because the claim will be linked with the old DLA claim.

donewiththistakemeaway · 29/06/2026 15:50

RapunzelHadExtensions · 29/06/2026 15:41

Reminds me of my ExDH's first wife who never worked a day in her life, all, kids above 8 years old, and were desperate to live or at least stay with us 50/50. They used to scream and cry and run away from her, jump out the car whilst driving away to come back to us, so he went to mediation to apply for 50/50 at least. She genuinley said he could have them full time so long as she still got 'her money'. The mediator suggested getting a job to which she seemed astounded and said, on my child's life - 'But when would i do the food shop?'

I'm sorry you're going through this too. Sounds like enough is enough and this is what happens when you totally rely on someone else to financially provide for the children you helped create.

Oh yes this is ringing some bells. I think it has become crunch time and tonight when we speak to the kids will be up to them to decide if we are changing the arrangement to full time. I can’t see them saying they wouldn’t want to be with us full time in all honesty

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RapunzelHadExtensions · 29/06/2026 15:45

Meant to say as well OP when exDh and I got married she went to CMS telling them the CMS should go up because we were married now. They quite rightly laughed her out the office.

She seemed to forget that I actually paid a lot towards those kids, not to mention the 5 bed detached they could live in becuase of our joint income, which he couldn't afford without me, but that didn't seem to matter to her as it wasn't money in her pocket. I couldn't believe the audacity of her to sit on her arse (no reason for her not to work at all) and apply for my money while I'm working for HER children.

No she can't come for your money. I'm embarassed for her.

RapunzelHadExtensions · 29/06/2026 15:41

Reminds me of my ExDH's first wife who never worked a day in her life, all, kids above 8 years old, and were desperate to live or at least stay with us 50/50. They used to scream and cry and run away from her, jump out the car whilst driving away to come back to us, so he went to mediation to apply for 50/50 at least. She genuinley said he could have them full time so long as she still got 'her money'. The mediator suggested getting a job to which she seemed astounded and said, on my child's life - 'But when would i do the food shop?'

I'm sorry you're going through this too. Sounds like enough is enough and this is what happens when you totally rely on someone else to financially provide for the children you helped create.

ThreadGuardDog · 29/06/2026 15:39

offtocalifornia · 29/06/2026 15:13

I see it time and time again On Here that current partners of non-resident fathers say they pay 'lots extra'. Implying that they are the good guy, and the mother should be working fulltime, putting the 'lots extra' into savings for the future.

A former partner did this. It did no favours - of course it got folded into everyday spending. The mum worked part-time, which meant lower pension contributions, less seniority & lower salary when she was ready to go back fulltime. He liked to shake his head and judge her for not putting the 'extra' aside.

I can't see why they don't make the CMS payment plus a bit more to make sure it's not the bare minimum, and put the 'lots extra' into an ISA themselves for the child.

How is this in any way relevant to what OP has posted ? If what OP has said is true then ex has had years of opportunity to go back to work full time because OP and DH take on most of the responsibility for the children. CMS payments are based on declared income from the absent parent. They can’t be expected to pay any more than they can genuinely afford, so where would you get the ‘bit more’ from ? The effort would be better spent chasing absent parents who are getting away with declaring next to nothing in the way of earnings by exploiting various loopholes.

ThreadGuardDog · 29/06/2026 15:35

Mangelwurzelfortea · 29/06/2026 15:10

I think it's pretty shit to decide to stop working so you don't have to pay any more maintenance for three of your kids.

Yes yes I know you've offered 50/50 blah blah but it still sounds very much like the old chestnut where the dad doesn't want to pay child support to the mother he perceives as feckless. I know quite a few women who've experienced this from their exes (usually with a new partner egging them on) who aren't feckless at all.

Two kids, not three. And he’s paid five times the rate of the ordered CMS. £1500 a month assumes that the two kids cost £3000 a month to support, which is absolute nonsense. He’s worked for thirty years in what OP says is a physically demanding job and if you look at the details of travel time and hours worked it seems unsustainable for an older man. If what OP says is true and the ex has never worked then she is feckless. Especially if it’s true that OP and DH have provided most of the support for the children as well as the money.

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