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DH stoping paying CMS

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donewiththistakemeaway · 29/06/2026 10:25

My husband told his ex-partner — the mother of his two oldest children — a year ago that he planned to leave his job within the next 12 months. She has never worked, and for the last 9 years he has paid her £1,500 per month voluntarily, even though the Child Maintenance Service calculates the correct amount should only be around £300.

The kids stayed with us for 10 nights a month, matching my husband’s days off. Between us, we did all school runs, clubs, meals, and bedtime routines — returning them to their mother around 8pm each evening. They couldn’t stay more nights because my husband’s shift pattern meant leaving at 5pm, driving 2 hours, working until 7am, and getting home by 9am. This would have left me alone caring for all 5 children while also working, handling all household tasks, and managing their activities. Meanwhile, their mother only had to put them to bed around 9pm, yet received far more money than required. We also take all five children to their clubs and activities every weekend.

My husband has now left that job — he was exhausted, and after 12 years of hard work, my own business has become successful enough for me to be the main earner. He reminded his ex repeatedly over the year that this change was coming and that his income would no longer support those higher payments.

He explained that he is now available full-time: he can offer full custody, 50/50 shared care, or flexible arrangements — whatever works for the children. He will be there for school runs, sickness, doctors’ appointments, school events, and anything else they need. The only change is that he can no longer make those payments.

This has caused a huge reaction. She is angry, calling him names and saying she won’t be able to afford her home. He asked her to consider getting a job, or for her new partner to contribute financially ( he does not work either) but she has threatened to involve a solicitor — claiming that if my husband stops paying, I must cover the cost because I’m so flush.

I do not believe this is my responsibility. To keep things calm, I offered to pay the £500 per month which sis still more that what the CMS says is the correct amount, but this is still not enough for her. She won’t stop us seeing the children, as she only cares for them a few hours a day and enjoys having her evenings free with her partner.

My main worry is whether there is any legal loophole that would force my husband to keep paying that higher sum just to maintain her lifestyle?

OP posts:
Preeeeee · 29/06/2026 16:56

Ubertomusic · 29/06/2026 16:52

PIP is only paid from 16 and I don't remember how DLA affects other benefits etc, and frankly I'm not interested in your financial circumstances.

You did your DSD a disservice because you don't care how it affects her prospects in young adult life, that's all. I wasn't even thinking about whether you wanted her money or didn't want it, it's irrelevant.

The fact that you are saying that if an autistic person can wash, dress and go to school then they have no care needs is ignorant at best, but of course you know better.

It's a digression from the main topic anyway.

I have said repeatedly: she doesn’t have care needs above other children her own age. That is the requirement for DLA. For mid-rate DLA, you need to require frequent assistance throughout the day (and/or night), which she doesn’t need.

I am not sure why you are deliberately ignoring these facts, given you don’t even know my DSD or the circumstances surrounding our family situation.

Phonicshaskilledmeoff · 29/06/2026 16:54

donewiththistakemeaway · 29/06/2026 16:22

What on earth are you on about I meant he didn’t HAND HER the house for her because it was for her it was because he wanted his children to stay in the family home and obviously being children he couldn’t put them as the owners.

He should have put it in trust for the children. But it’s done now.

Ubertomusic · 29/06/2026 16:52

Preeeeee · 29/06/2026 16:33

I think the person who lived with the child for half the time for three years, then full time for one year, is better placed to judge whether they have extra care needs warranting benefits than a random on the internet.

Your argument also makes no sense as DLA would be paid to my partner and then PIP directly to my stepchild, which would mean less financial burden on me… so actually in your wicked stepmother narrative I’d be desperate for her to be entitled to benefits as it would absolve me of financial responsibility 😂

PIP is only paid from 16 and I don't remember how DLA affects other benefits etc, and frankly I'm not interested in your financial circumstances.

You did your DSD a disservice because you don't care how it affects her prospects in young adult life, that's all. I wasn't even thinking about whether you wanted her money or didn't want it, it's irrelevant.

The fact that you are saying that if an autistic person can wash, dress and go to school then they have no care needs is ignorant at best, but of course you know better.

It's a digression from the main topic anyway.

DinoLil · 29/06/2026 16:52

You don't have to pay. Ditto her DH shouldn't be expected to pay. The responsibility comes down to your DH and his ex. The children are theirs, not yours or her husbands.

donewiththistakemeaway · 29/06/2026 16:52

Ubertomusic · 29/06/2026 16:37

Wow, such a passion :) It's the first time you actually said the house is in her name and he has no claim on it. Saying "it's her home" means nothing and I'm actually surprised you avoided a direct answer about the deeds for the whole thread.

She cannot claim any payments from you, don't worry :)

I said in the post at 10:56 and again at my post at 11:30 and again at 11:51 post. Post at 12:26 isn’t blatantly saying on that one that the house is hers but suggest that kicking her out wasn’t an option as he wouldn’t do that. Again a post at 15:35 and again at 15:57 post. So think I have said multiple times the house is hers but you wanted me to say the exact WORD DEEDS. Christ that’s controlling. Please by all means be helpful to the thread otherwise don’t bother

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FullLondonEye · 29/06/2026 16:48

There are too many fucking idiots on this thread. Some apparently can't read, others have chosen not to and instead just use their own experiences to colour the narrative.

While I can reserve judgement on the basis that anyone can lie, it makes sense to assume that at least the majority of what's being posted by the OP is true because otherwise why bother to read it, or anything else on here? Yep, maybe the ex would give a different story but also some people are just fucking awful and it's equally as likely to be women as men. Not all men are horrible husbands and fathers and not all mothers are angels and vice versa.

Tink3rbell30 · 29/06/2026 16:46

Nope she can get a job. Don't pay. Give her the bare minimum.

Walkden · 29/06/2026 16:45

"You're not responsible, but it's a shitty thing for a father to do. Just stop working with no plan to support his DC? Not a man I'd want to be married to."

Yet the mum has not worked all those years: what was her plan ?

OP get 50:50 for your dh's kids and draw on that £500 you were thinking of paying the mum.

She must have a plan to provide for her own kids; trying to blackmail/ threaten you for it is a really shitty thing to do.

DaisyDooley · 29/06/2026 16:44

There seem to be a lot of people here who haven’t read @donewiththistakemeaway posts and don’t seem to understand what has happened. I don’t know why OP as it’s not very difficult to understand.

I say GOOD FOR YOU AND YOUR DH.
You have both been fantastic parents to his two kids.
Working in a physically demanding job takes its toll on the body. My friends husband (tiler & joiner for 35 yrs) is crippled at 54 yrs old. Back and knees utterly fucked, lives on tramadol & diazapan. Tough bloke and I’ve caught him crying in pain. So, your DH has made a very sensible choice.
He is being supportive and helping you now with your career and business -plus the children Youhave with him will benefit massively from having a great time with Dad now.
His 14&16 yr old will probably come and live with you from what you have said and it sounds like a busy house full of kids and love. How utterly wonderful.
You are both setting a fabulous example to them. Be proud of yourselves.

And the ex?
Well - frankly- fuck her. She’s had more than enough (£18k PA for nearly 10 yrs for 5 nights a month!!) out of you both. She a get a job or live on benefits but living off ypu is not an option anymore. If the kids go 50/50 or f/t with you do not give the grasping bugger a penny. £500 a month is £6k a year. Four years - that pays for a child to go to uni, or driving lessons + a car for the eldest two, or a family holiday while they still want to holiday with you……let her stand on her own two feet. Your .DH has done too much for her-now it’s time to stop.

Hope it goes well tonight when you chat with the 14&16 yr olds. They are incredibly lucky to have you - and don’t you forget that.

AMurderofMurderingCrows · 29/06/2026 16:44

Ubertomusic · 29/06/2026 15:57

Is the house solely in her name? Yes or no?
Everything else is rubbish.

OP had already answered this.

Not sure what you're on about with the 'everything else is rubbish'

Loubissou · 29/06/2026 16:43

Ubertomusic · 29/06/2026 16:37

Wow, such a passion :) It's the first time you actually said the house is in her name and he has no claim on it. Saying "it's her home" means nothing and I'm actually surprised you avoided a direct answer about the deeds for the whole thread.

She cannot claim any payments from you, don't worry :)

She has said several times it is 100% the ex's. She wrote it before this nasty little jab "So the house is NOT hers and she WILL be kicked out." from you. Just because she didn't specify "deeds" to your satisfaction.

Your obvious dislike of step mums has impacted your comprehension skills repeatedly on this thread.

RapunzelHadExtensions · 29/06/2026 16:43

CardboardBoxesLily · 29/06/2026 14:53

What do you mean she has them 8pm-9pm Mon-Sun? Do you mean everyday?
Where do they go at 9pm? She has them for 1 hour a night? Surely they’d rather just sleep in yours where they’ve been settled all evening?
You/DH do all school runs or she does? If you, you go and collect them from her house and drive them to school in the morning, what’s the purpose of this if they’re with her?
The schedule is very confusing, could you lay it out more clearly?

I assume because his ex knows that only overnights count when it comes to CMS. So she's having them back very late in the evening just so they are classed as overnight at hers and the CMS is calculated that way, even though the OP and their dad are doing the huge bulk of the childcare.

The entitlement of this woman, but she knows what she's doing clearly.

AMurderofMurderingCrows · 29/06/2026 16:42

a few posters really haven't understood well or read anything I’ve said and have just made things up.

@donewiththistakemeaway This seems to be the norm on mumsnet at the moment so don't worry, you have been perfectly clear in your posts.

FoldItIn · 29/06/2026 16:41

donewiththistakemeaway · 29/06/2026 16:22

What on earth are you on about I meant he didn’t HAND HER the house for her because it was for her it was because he wanted his children to stay in the family home and obviously being children he couldn’t put them as the owners.

They could have stayed in the home without him signing her over a whole house. It could have stayed in his name, heck, he could have put it in yours!
They could have all still lived there. He could have used it as extra income for you all now, as a little buffer since he has given up work, which i totally get btw, my husband also does a physical job.
I mean if the kids end up living with you then he has just handed her a house for nothing hasn't he? The teens won't be living there.

Ubertomusic · 29/06/2026 16:39

ThreadGuardDog · 29/06/2026 16:02

Sounds like a case for mandatory face to face assessments to be honest. I know that medical evidence has to be produced to support the paper claim, but generally medics don’t provide evidence that clarifies care/mobility needs in terms of the assessment criteria, so there’s always room for exaggeration if the claimant isn’t actually seen. The same is true of PIP, but F2F assessments are being phased back in and hopefully will become the norm before long.

Assessors routinely lie in the reports, I witnessed it myself.

millymollymoomoo · 29/06/2026 16:37

Your husband has been a mug all these years. To give her the house? To give &1500 a month all while doing everything else, I cannot believe he’s done that. what a fool

Ubertomusic · 29/06/2026 16:37

donewiththistakemeaway · 29/06/2026 15:59

Everything else is rubbish?

yes the house is hers. How many times. It is her home. DH GAVE IT TO HER YEARS AGO. He has NO CLAIM ON IT! He can not take it off her. It is in her name. It is HER HOME. Have you answered your question enough times in this post now

Edited

Wow, such a passion :) It's the first time you actually said the house is in her name and he has no claim on it. Saying "it's her home" means nothing and I'm actually surprised you avoided a direct answer about the deeds for the whole thread.

She cannot claim any payments from you, don't worry :)

Pistachiocake · 29/06/2026 16:35

HortiGal · 29/06/2026 16:01

@Beamsssdo you struggle with comprehension?
The D.C. are 14/16, their mother and her partner don’t work, never have: rely on OPs DH to fund them. Her kids literally only sleep in her house and all their time is at their dads.
She has no excuse not to work and support her kids, women like this are repellent.

What surprises me is how many people think it's wrong for OP's husband to be a SAHP when his wife is working, yet it's fine for a mum not to work. If a couple decide that one will stay at home (when they're not claiming benefits) how is that anyone else's business? OP, I would check your main question out with a solicitor.

BruFord · 29/06/2026 16:35

I wonder what her plan was in less than four years when the youngest turns 18?

From your updates, it sounds as if the teenagers will opt to live you full-time so technically your DH will be able to claim maintenance from his ex.

Honestly, she's been really silly, he gave her a year's notice of this change plus the children are not far from adulthood anyway, what did she think she'd live on when they're both 18?

JudgeJ · 29/06/2026 16:33

But I do think that a parent who optionally stops working without a care for the fact he is meant to be financially supporting his dc is a shitty dad

So the ex has been a shitty mother all their lives then as she's never worked outside the home.

Preeeeee · 29/06/2026 16:33

Ubertomusic · 29/06/2026 16:28

So your own child is getting benefits and your step child is not because you stopped her benefits after one year of care?

Some step parents go the extra mile...

BTW my HFA DC can wash, dress and went to school, that absolutely does NOT mean they don't have extra care needs.
Luckily no step parents were ever involved to harm their prospects even more.

I think the person who lived with the child for half the time for three years, then full time for one year, is better placed to judge whether they have extra care needs warranting benefits than a random on the internet.

Your argument also makes no sense as DLA would be paid to my partner and then PIP directly to my stepchild, which would mean less financial burden on me… so actually in your wicked stepmother narrative I’d be desperate for her to be entitled to benefits as it would absolve me of financial responsibility 😂

hugasaurus · 29/06/2026 16:32

I don’t think there’s any need to pay, legally or morally. She has had plenty of notice this is coming, she seems to be basically just a bed and breakfast for them anyway, she’ll just have to get a job. It doesn’t sound like she will struggle for childcare as she doesn’t have the kids during normal work hours anyway, so no reason she can’t get a job like the rest of us have to do 🤷‍♀️ Her personal lifestyle isn’t really any concern of you or your DH’s.

JudgeJ · 29/06/2026 16:32

IPM · 29/06/2026 10:52

It all sounds a bit of a shit show really.

A mother of two who won't work and now a father of five who won't work.

Not a great example to the kids.

He's mirroring the lifestyle choices the ex has lived on for years, he's becoming a SAHP, what's the difference?

Laurmolonlabe · 29/06/2026 16:29

They were volutary payments, the court will not have any interest in maintaining her lifestyle unless it impacts severely on the children- you already take them 50% of the time why on earth would he keep up these payments?
It's been a long time since I heard of an exwife getting maintainance for herself if exhubby isn't a billionaire .

Ubertomusic · 29/06/2026 16:28

Preeeeee · 29/06/2026 15:57

It was based on paperwork alone.

DSD lived with us 50/50 for 3 years, now has lived with us full time for a year, so I can confidently say she is not entitled to disability benefits. As an aside, I have a child who does have extra care needs and IS entitled to DLA, so I know very well the requirements.

Her mother’s job title may as well be ‘professional benefit thief’, as that is what her income has been for the past 20+ years.

So your own child is getting benefits and your step child is not because you stopped her benefits after one year of care?

Some step parents go the extra mile...

BTW my HFA DC can wash, dress and went to school, that absolutely does NOT mean they don't have extra care needs.
Luckily no step parents were ever involved to harm their prospects even more.

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