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DH stoping paying CMS

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donewiththistakemeaway · 29/06/2026 10:25

My husband told his ex-partner — the mother of his two oldest children — a year ago that he planned to leave his job within the next 12 months. She has never worked, and for the last 9 years he has paid her £1,500 per month voluntarily, even though the Child Maintenance Service calculates the correct amount should only be around £300.

The kids stayed with us for 10 nights a month, matching my husband’s days off. Between us, we did all school runs, clubs, meals, and bedtime routines — returning them to their mother around 8pm each evening. They couldn’t stay more nights because my husband’s shift pattern meant leaving at 5pm, driving 2 hours, working until 7am, and getting home by 9am. This would have left me alone caring for all 5 children while also working, handling all household tasks, and managing their activities. Meanwhile, their mother only had to put them to bed around 9pm, yet received far more money than required. We also take all five children to their clubs and activities every weekend.

My husband has now left that job — he was exhausted, and after 12 years of hard work, my own business has become successful enough for me to be the main earner. He reminded his ex repeatedly over the year that this change was coming and that his income would no longer support those higher payments.

He explained that he is now available full-time: he can offer full custody, 50/50 shared care, or flexible arrangements — whatever works for the children. He will be there for school runs, sickness, doctors’ appointments, school events, and anything else they need. The only change is that he can no longer make those payments.

This has caused a huge reaction. She is angry, calling him names and saying she won’t be able to afford her home. He asked her to consider getting a job, or for her new partner to contribute financially ( he does not work either) but she has threatened to involve a solicitor — claiming that if my husband stops paying, I must cover the cost because I’m so flush.

I do not believe this is my responsibility. To keep things calm, I offered to pay the £500 per month which sis still more that what the CMS says is the correct amount, but this is still not enough for her. She won’t stop us seeing the children, as she only cares for them a few hours a day and enjoys having her evenings free with her partner.

My main worry is whether there is any legal loophole that would force my husband to keep paying that higher sum just to maintain her lifestyle?

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MyGlassMenagerie · 29/06/2026 17:29

Stompythedinosaur · 29/06/2026 11:01

It's not up to you to pay.

But I do think that a parent who optionally stops working without a care for the fact he is meant to be financially supporting his dc is a shitty dad.

And "tired from working for 12 years" is ridiculous. Most adults over the age of 30 have worked for 12 years, it's nothing to make a song and dance about.

What about the DC’s mum, who has never worked, is she also a shitty mum for not financially supporting them/herself? Or is that a standard reserved for dads?

BudgetBuster · 29/06/2026 17:29

Bit late to thread but it sounds like you and your DH already do everything bar a few breakfasts for the older 2 kids anyway. I would think the best decision all around is to ask the teens what custody arrangement they would like... they are old enough.

Maybe the mother would be happy enough with less overnights?

Your husband not working is best for yiur family right now, with very young kids. Presumably in a few years when all at school he could get a PT job or perhaps work PT for you if he wanted?

Just make sure that he isn't linked to your business in anyway right now (so not a shareholder / director etc) so she can't come after that.

ThreadGuardDog · 29/06/2026 17:29

donewiththistakemeaway · 29/06/2026 17:26

Thank you for actually reading and being helpful. Just going to sit down for dinner and have a conversation all of us and just see where we are all at

Good luck OP, I hope you can arrive at a solution that works for everyone - including you. You and your DH sound incredibly committed to the welfare of all your children. Let us know how you get on.

donewiththistakemeaway · 29/06/2026 17:26

sunshinetimes · 29/06/2026 17:13

Many posters including this one haven't bothered to read the full thread. Pay no attention to them, there are plenty of people here supporting you in your decision.

As a side note, you sound like an incredibly caring and supportive stepmum and they are lucky to have you.

Thank you for actually reading and being helpful. Just going to sit down for dinner and have a conversation all of us and just see where we are all at

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ThreadGuardDog · 29/06/2026 17:24

Ubertomusic · 29/06/2026 17:16

There is nothing unfair in saying PP did her step child a disservice, it's just stating the facts. It will certainly complicate PIP and the assessors routinely lie at F2F PIP assessments to fob people off. I know it by experience and witnessed it many times. There is nothing about validity in it, just budget cost cutting.

It's off topic anyway. I'm just baffled at what people do and consider... the done thing?

I’ve been a disability outreach worker for many years and have supported many claimants with reconsiderations and at tribunal. I have never yet seen a report on which an assessor has lied. What I do see is their medical opinion, based on what they have observed during the assessment and the claimant described by the parameters set by the assessment itself. Not all claimants fit neatly into specific categories and it’s a fact that many claimants look at the report and simply don’t see themselves in the same terms as the assessor. Some say they don’t recognise themselves in what is written. It doesn’t mean the assessor is lying. I’m not saying the system is perfect - far from it. I’ve seen many flawed reports and many inaccuracies. But never an out and out lie.

ThreadGuardDog · 29/06/2026 17:18

Preeeeee · 29/06/2026 17:13

I won’t be replying to that poster again, they’ve already demonstrated that they have no clue how DLA / PIP works by stating having autism automatically entitles you to benefits.

Unfortunately that’s the nature of MN. I know this thread doesn’t directly address disability but you see it all the time on those dealing with benefits - those paid to disabled people in particular. Many posters come from a position of complete ignorance of what these benefits are meant to support, and even an inkling of what disability actually means, because they have no experience of either. Yet they still feel qualified to comment.

Ubertomusic · 29/06/2026 17:16

ThreadGuardDog · 29/06/2026 17:09

That’s extremely unfair. @Preeeeee clarified that she has another child whose needs do meet DLA criteria, so she’s well aware of the thresholds and can see where the disparity in the care needs of both children are. I do think it will complicate things if a future claim for PIP needs to be made, but there is far more likelihood that a PIP claim will result in a face to face or at least a telephone assessment rather than the paper claim alone, which is what DSD’s DLA claim was decided on. That being the case, the validity of the claim can be directly determined by the medical professional charged with the assessment.

Even though medical evidence has to be supplied to support the claim, that evidence rarely if ever directly addresses the assessment criteria for benefit, so if there is no actual F2F assessment it does leave room for the claiming parent to exaggerate.

There is nothing unfair in saying PP did her step child a disservice, it's just stating the facts. It will certainly complicate PIP and the assessors routinely lie at F2F PIP assessments to fob people off. I know it by experience and witnessed it many times. There is nothing about validity in it, just budget cost cutting.

It's off topic anyway. I'm just baffled at what people do and consider... the done thing?

sunshinetimes · 29/06/2026 17:13

donewiththistakemeaway · 29/06/2026 17:11

She could get a job though. Im baffled. She pays nothing for the kids everything is paid for by DH, trips, food clothes washing, house, everything. She doesn’t even feed them, only breakfast. Surely she can fund that bring as they are with us every day even if she uses the child benefit.

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Many posters including this one haven't bothered to read the full thread. Pay no attention to them, there are plenty of people here supporting you in your decision.

As a side note, you sound like an incredibly caring and supportive stepmum and they are lucky to have you.

Preeeeee · 29/06/2026 17:13

ThreadGuardDog · 29/06/2026 17:09

That’s extremely unfair. @Preeeeee clarified that she has another child whose needs do meet DLA criteria, so she’s well aware of the thresholds and can see where the disparity in the care needs of both children are. I do think it will complicate things if a future claim for PIP needs to be made, but there is far more likelihood that a PIP claim will result in a face to face or at least a telephone assessment rather than the paper claim alone, which is what DSD’s DLA claim was decided on. That being the case, the validity of the claim can be directly determined by the medical professional charged with the assessment.

Even though medical evidence has to be supplied to support the claim, that evidence rarely if ever directly addresses the assessment criteria for benefit, so if there is no actual F2F assessment it does leave room for the claiming parent to exaggerate.

I won’t be replying to that poster again, they’ve already demonstrated that they have no clue how DLA / PIP works by stating having autism automatically entitles you to benefits.

ThreadGuardDog · 29/06/2026 17:13

Credittocress · 29/06/2026 17:05

Just because she doesn’t work doesn’t make it ok for him not to pay anything towards his kids either. The kids don’t stop costing money because he doesn’t want to work.

I think the fact that over the years he has paid five times the ordered amount of CMS counts for something. Plus the fact that in terms of what DH and OP have provided so far in terms of support and care for the children, it’s clearly much more than 50/50 and just short of full time custody, so really the ex has milked it for all it’s worth. Plus the fact that he has offered to formally take on either 50/50 or full custody and ex has refused. I think we all know where her priorities lie, and it’s clearly not with her children.

SleepingStandingUp · 29/06/2026 17:12

donewiththistakemeaway · 29/06/2026 10:42

The kids want to stay with us full time as they have their siblings here and are used to being with us. Th egg only see their mum from 8pm -9pm Monday - Sunday.

well that's the solution surely. you'll save a fortune in petrol and time and everyone will be happier

donewiththistakemeaway · 29/06/2026 17:11

Credittocress · 29/06/2026 17:05

Just because she doesn’t work doesn’t make it ok for him not to pay anything towards his kids either. The kids don’t stop costing money because he doesn’t want to work.

She could get a job though. Im baffled. She pays nothing for the kids everything is paid for by DH, trips, food clothes washing, house, everything. She doesn’t even feed them, only breakfast. Surely she can fund that bring as they are with us every day even if she uses the child benefit.

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ThreadGuardDog · 29/06/2026 17:09

Ubertomusic · 29/06/2026 16:28

So your own child is getting benefits and your step child is not because you stopped her benefits after one year of care?

Some step parents go the extra mile...

BTW my HFA DC can wash, dress and went to school, that absolutely does NOT mean they don't have extra care needs.
Luckily no step parents were ever involved to harm their prospects even more.

That’s extremely unfair. @Preeeeee clarified that she has another child whose needs do meet DLA criteria, so she’s well aware of the thresholds and can see where the disparity in the care needs of both children are. I do think it will complicate things if a future claim for PIP needs to be made, but there is far more likelihood that a PIP claim will result in a face to face or at least a telephone assessment rather than the paper claim alone, which is what DSD’s DLA claim was decided on. That being the case, the validity of the claim can be directly determined by the medical professional charged with the assessment.

Even though medical evidence has to be supplied to support the claim, that evidence rarely if ever directly addresses the assessment criteria for benefit, so if there is no actual F2F assessment it does leave room for the claiming parent to exaggerate.

donewiththistakemeaway · 29/06/2026 17:09

Ubertomusic · 29/06/2026 16:59

This is your post from 10:56, there is nothing about the deeds in it.
Sorry I won't be double checking the rest as even the first one shows you're twisting something.

We're not in court so it doesn't really matter.

“ DH paid off the mortgage of the house she lives in when they were together from inheritance from his family “

You literally reposted this! but cause it doesn’t say deeds it wasn’t clear enough for you.

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Ubertomusic · 29/06/2026 17:08

AMurderofMurderingCrows · 29/06/2026 17:05

Think you need to get a job as you're far too invested in when OP said what 😂

I'm self employed so flexible with my time, but thank you all the same.

MyMilchick · 29/06/2026 17:07

Credittocress · 29/06/2026 17:05

Just because she doesn’t work doesn’t make it ok for him not to pay anything towards his kids either. The kids don’t stop costing money because he doesn’t want to work.

But him and the OP are the ones paying most of the childrens expenses, have you even read the OP's posts? By the sounds of it, it's the mother who should be paying maintenance to the father here.

AMurderofMurderingCrows · 29/06/2026 17:05

Ubertomusic · 29/06/2026 16:59

This is your post from 10:56, there is nothing about the deeds in it.
Sorry I won't be double checking the rest as even the first one shows you're twisting something.

We're not in court so it doesn't really matter.

Think you need to get a job as you're far too invested in when OP said what 😂

Credittocress · 29/06/2026 17:05

Just because she doesn’t work doesn’t make it ok for him not to pay anything towards his kids either. The kids don’t stop costing money because he doesn’t want to work.

AcrossthePond55 · 29/06/2026 17:01

@donewiththistakemeaway

Personally, I think he's done enough for her and their 2 kids. He gave her the house for the DC's benefit. He's been paying way over the odds at £1500/mo for his 2 kids to basically 'spend the night' in that house for (IIRC) 9 years. AND he's been reminding her of the fact that he was retiring for at least a year.

As I see it, if the sexes were reversed and the 'paying parent' was a woman whose spouse had suddenly started earning enough for her to become a SAHM, it would be fine. She'd be told it was fine to quit her job to stay at home with her children and that her Ex needed to get off his lazy arse and get a job as the 'free ride' was over. Well, your DH has just as much right to become a SAHD, and all the DC will benefit from it.

As far as the £500 you said you'd pay frankly I'd rescind it, especially if the DC say they want to live with you. There's no legal reason you have to and you're entitled to change your mind especially since she's threatened legal action. You can always say "In light of possible legal action, I don't want to set the precedent of me being responsible for paying maintenance". Total bullshit of course, but hey, needs must when the devil drives. Or you can tell her that the £500 is a temporary thing to give her some 'extra time to get a job' and that you'll pay it for 6 months.

Congratulations on building your successful business!

ForMerryMauveDreamer · 29/06/2026 17:01

donewiththistakemeaway · 29/06/2026 16:52

I said in the post at 10:56 and again at my post at 11:30 and again at 11:51 post. Post at 12:26 isn’t blatantly saying on that one that the house is hers but suggest that kicking her out wasn’t an option as he wouldn’t do that. Again a post at 15:35 and again at 15:57 post. So think I have said multiple times the house is hers but you wanted me to say the exact WORD DEEDS. Christ that’s controlling. Please by all means be helpful to the thread otherwise don’t bother

OP don’t rise to it. There are some people on here with the reading comprehension of a five year old. You’ve been perfectly clear in your posts and anyone who has actually read them has understood.

Stop being a mug though. Do not pay the lazy ex a penny. Provide for the kids fully at your home (assuming this is what they want) and get your DH to claim for CB. The ex doesn’t have a leg to stand on, she might have to get a job like a responsible adult!

Ubertomusic · 29/06/2026 16:59

donewiththistakemeaway · 29/06/2026 10:56

No reason other than she never had to. DH paid off the mortgage on the house she lives in when they were still together from inheritance from his family. It’s just the bills she needs to cover which I don’t know how much benefits she gets but that must help plus the CMS DH has paid over the years

This is your post from 10:56, there is nothing about the deeds in it.
Sorry I won't be double checking the rest as even the first one shows you're twisting something.

We're not in court so it doesn't really matter.

millymollymoomoo · 29/06/2026 16:59

The trouble with signing over house to her is your dh has effectively potentially disinherited his children from it. She might leave house to someone else, marry with no will or whatever. He should have put it in trust for his children !! Yes it’s fine now but he’s been a fool,

stop paying her. Simple

Stompythedinosaur · 29/06/2026 16:58

donewiththistakemeaway · 29/06/2026 10:49

He’s quit work so he can be there for all 5 children. Bit of a double standard going on if it’s fine for mothers or step mothers not to work but dads are expected to work. He wants to spend more time with his children, I don’t think that’s wrong

Both parents should support their dc, of course. But, the fact is that the dc are financially dependant on their df, that that has been the situation for some time, and he's unilaterally deciding to stop providing for them.

It's not something a loving parent would do. Many of us have stuck out horrible jobs because we need to provide for our dc.

donewiththistakemeaway · 29/06/2026 16:57

Phonicshaskilledmeoff · 29/06/2026 16:54

He should have put it in trust for the children. But it’s done now.

I know in hindsight but at the time things were amicable etc so he just thought makes sense for her to stay in the home and the kids get to stay in the family home. I don’t think he thought past that

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donewiththistakemeaway · 29/06/2026 16:56

FoldItIn · 29/06/2026 16:41

They could have stayed in the home without him signing her over a whole house. It could have stayed in his name, heck, he could have put it in yours!
They could have all still lived there. He could have used it as extra income for you all now, as a little buffer since he has given up work, which i totally get btw, my husband also does a physical job.
I mean if the kids end up living with you then he has just handed her a house for nothing hasn't he? The teens won't be living there.

Right yeah I see your point but if the children live with us and they don’t stay with her anymore after all these years of hell from her I couldn’t care less for her having the house. The house is worth money but it’s not got happy memories for the kids but they have happy memories in this home and if she doesn’t leave it to them then that’s on her. Our home here will be split equally inheritance wise between all 5 children as will my business should it still be running. Money is nice but it won’t change the fact that the kids are happier here and it’s the ex who will have to live with that. So yes she gets the house but we get the kids because it’s what they want

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