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DH stoping paying CMS

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donewiththistakemeaway · 29/06/2026 10:25

My husband told his ex-partner — the mother of his two oldest children — a year ago that he planned to leave his job within the next 12 months. She has never worked, and for the last 9 years he has paid her £1,500 per month voluntarily, even though the Child Maintenance Service calculates the correct amount should only be around £300.

The kids stayed with us for 10 nights a month, matching my husband’s days off. Between us, we did all school runs, clubs, meals, and bedtime routines — returning them to their mother around 8pm each evening. They couldn’t stay more nights because my husband’s shift pattern meant leaving at 5pm, driving 2 hours, working until 7am, and getting home by 9am. This would have left me alone caring for all 5 children while also working, handling all household tasks, and managing their activities. Meanwhile, their mother only had to put them to bed around 9pm, yet received far more money than required. We also take all five children to their clubs and activities every weekend.

My husband has now left that job — he was exhausted, and after 12 years of hard work, my own business has become successful enough for me to be the main earner. He reminded his ex repeatedly over the year that this change was coming and that his income would no longer support those higher payments.

He explained that he is now available full-time: he can offer full custody, 50/50 shared care, or flexible arrangements — whatever works for the children. He will be there for school runs, sickness, doctors’ appointments, school events, and anything else they need. The only change is that he can no longer make those payments.

This has caused a huge reaction. She is angry, calling him names and saying she won’t be able to afford her home. He asked her to consider getting a job, or for her new partner to contribute financially ( he does not work either) but she has threatened to involve a solicitor — claiming that if my husband stops paying, I must cover the cost because I’m so flush.

I do not believe this is my responsibility. To keep things calm, I offered to pay the £500 per month which sis still more that what the CMS says is the correct amount, but this is still not enough for her. She won’t stop us seeing the children, as she only cares for them a few hours a day and enjoys having her evenings free with her partner.

My main worry is whether there is any legal loophole that would force my husband to keep paying that higher sum just to maintain her lifestyle?

OP posts:
Speakeasier · 29/06/2026 13:18

TealDoors · 29/06/2026 13:15

She’s unemployed?

That’s not an excuse. It’s confirmation. Obviously she’s unemployed if she’s never applied for a job. The OP’s husband is contributing to the household by childcare. The ex is doing nothing except providing breakfasts 20 days a month. As they’re teens I bet they’re physically getting their own breakfasts anyway.

KrazyKatty · 29/06/2026 13:18

donewiththistakemeaway · 29/06/2026 12:23

I just told her I would pay the £500 just to keep the peace possibly a stupid mistake but I’ve said it now

No, you can definitely change your mind and pay zero when the children move in with you virtually full time. The ex girlfriend needs to get off her lazy arse and get a job. She’s had long enough to play at being a Princess.

Your DH sounds like a great dad. 🌟

ThreadGuardDog · 29/06/2026 13:17

babyproblems · 29/06/2026 12:42

£300 for two kids a month - when he’s only had them ten nights is a joke.

He should be paying far more. It’s not relevant was CMS says. His choice to quit his job - he still needs to pay- and pay properly - for his kids.

You are too involved and he isn’t involved enough. He either has them 50% (not you - him have them!) or he needs to pay the decent maintenance.

Have you actually read the OP ? He wasn’t paying £300, he’s been paying £1500 a month for twelve years, while his ex sits on her arse and doesn’t work - neither does her partner. Know why ? Because his payments are classed as child maintenance and are disregarded for UC, so it’s more than likely that ex and partner have been living a very nice life on benefits.

And as for not being involved enough ? Ten overnights a month, all school runs, the children with them every evening after school including meals, bedtime routines when they were younger and returning them to the ex every evening, plus all weekend clubs and activities. On what planet is that not being involved enough ?

He’s also offered 50/50 AND full custody, but guess what - ex has rejected both proposals. My guess is that the money enabling her lifestyle is more important to the ex - the amount of input she has in their lives evidences that. Always assuming of course, that OP is being truthful.

whatonearthishappenin · 29/06/2026 13:17

TealDoors · 29/06/2026 12:17

So SAHMs are morally wrong, even when their husband earns enough to amply support the household?

But the husband in your scenario (i.e. the OP in this case) does not want to support the older two children who are not biologically hers. That is perfectly reasonable and appropriate.

But OP's DH cannot just forget about his own financial responsibilities to the older children when he (apparently) knows they do not have a mother they can rely on.

Wishitsnows · 29/06/2026 13:17

Nice and easy for him them. Let a woman raise his children for 16 years and now that they will be reasonably independent and self sufficient he wants to be a stay at home dad.

D0RA · 29/06/2026 13:16

It’s based on his taxable income not just earned income. And not on household household income.

It’s based on the number of nights with each parent not the time they are collected or returned.

The fact that you take the children to their clubs and activities while they are with you is not a flex, it’s called being a parent .

You can’t expect the resident parent to change their whole pattern of life just because the non resident parent has quit his job. it has to be what’s best for the children, which 99% of the time is stability.

Your story that your husband has quit his job because he’s “ tired “ of working after 12 years is totally pathetic and doesn’t convince a single person reading this. It’s perfectly obvious to everyone here ( and it will be to everyone he knows) that he is doing this to avoid paying for his two children .

I know you think you are very clever and that he’s the first NRP in the Uk to have thought of this clever scam but it’s common as muck. yes it’s legal but it’s immoral.

I hope you are proud of being with a deadbeat dad. Remember he will do the same to you when you moves on to the next woman.

Once his children are old enough to understand what he has done, they will despise him for it.

As he is claiming no earned income, his ex will probably put in an appeal to CMS based on other types of income. I hope she does that and wins.

NotAtMyAge · 29/06/2026 13:16

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 29/06/2026 11:34

Have they done their financial order for their divorce? If not she can come for spousal maintenance as she’s not remarried

They never married.

TealDoors · 29/06/2026 13:15

Speakeasier · 29/06/2026 13:14

Well certainly the ex isn’t working and never has so what’s her excuse?

She’s unemployed?

TealDoors · 29/06/2026 13:14

sunshinetimes · 29/06/2026 13:14

So does that mean childcare is free? Nurseries, nannies and childminders do it as a hobby for no money?

If looking after your own children was working, we’d all be paid a salary to do it.

Speakeasier · 29/06/2026 13:14

TealDoors · 29/06/2026 13:13

No it isn’t.

Well certainly the ex isn’t working and never has so what’s her excuse?

sunshinetimes · 29/06/2026 13:14

TealDoors · 29/06/2026 13:13

No it isn’t.

So does that mean childcare is free? Nurseries, nannies and childminders do it as a hobby for no money?

TealDoors · 29/06/2026 13:13

sunshinetimes · 29/06/2026 13:08

Looking after your children is working.

No it isn’t.

TheRealWhacker · 29/06/2026 13:13

I’d love to hear the ex’s side of the story!

Speakeasier · 29/06/2026 13:11

Mumof2wifeof1crazytimes · 29/06/2026 12:49

Not your responsibility to pay the maintenance but as father to the 2 children, he should continue working to support them. A lot of people are tired from working but carry on doing to support their dependants.

Hang on a minute. Why shouldn’t the ex work. She’s basically been given a house. She’s still a young woman. She has a partner. She doesn’t have any expenses for the children apart from breakfasts and utilities which are largely covered by the £500 a month. The vast majority of the children’s costs are covered by the OP and their dad because they buy all clothes and uniforms and do school pick ups, dinner, clubs etc.

The dad has worked for 30 years. The mum hasn’t worked at all. She wouldn’t be paying for childcare or after school clubs. So working wouldn’t cost her anything. The dad has younger children so it would actually cost him to work as they’d have to pay for childcare. I bet the £1500 a month has actually been subsiding the mother and her partner for all these years as they’re probably both on benefits.

OP stop being a martyr. If the kids are living with you, which they largely are in terms of costs incurred, then £500 a month to the mother is very generous.

Ubertomusic · 29/06/2026 13:10

stargirl27 · 29/06/2026 12:55

Really depends on your solicitor's hourly rate. I would say for a straightforward application, about £10-15k if you settle at the dispute resolution appointment (often the second hearing, where you will have the benefit of a s7 report or equivalent), or if you go to a final hearing maybe £15-20k. If there are more hearings, a fact-finding hearing, or other complicating factors, this will increase.

Thank you! That was roughly my idea, based on friends' experience, thank you for confirming it's not just their case but roughly the average.

sunshinetimes · 29/06/2026 13:08

Mumof2wifeof1crazytimes · 29/06/2026 12:49

Not your responsibility to pay the maintenance but as father to the 2 children, he should continue working to support them. A lot of people are tired from working but carry on doing to support their dependants.

Looking after your children is working.

CotswoldsCamilla · 29/06/2026 13:08

donewiththistakemeaway · 29/06/2026 11:30

It was his home that he had a mortgage on when he met her. She moved in and they had kids. They did not marry. He then got inheritance which he paid the mortgage off the home with. About 2 years later they broke up but he told her she can have the house because of the kids

More fool him. What he should have said was that she could live there until the youngest was 19 or finished university which ever came last. Then he could have taken his house back and left it to his children. She saw him coming a mile off.

Clearinguptheclutter · 29/06/2026 13:08

She’s in a flap because she might now have to get a job
you don’t neee to pay anything
I don’t think your dp needs to either given how much he does

Eightfor15 · 29/06/2026 13:05

MrTiddlesTheCat · 29/06/2026 11:59

YANBU for not paying yourself. YABU for enabling your DH in financially abandoning his children. No wonder she's angry.

Who educationally abandoned you? Because your level of comprehension is that of a toddler. How anyone can read the OPs posts and think that he's neglecting his children is beyond me.

I hope you don't have children yourself, because it's fucking frightening that stupid people procreate.

Trumptontown · 29/06/2026 13:01

NerdyBird · 29/06/2026 12:55

I wonder if she is actually getting much UC? If the house is verifiably in her name it would count as an asset surely, so she wouldn’t get anything towards rent as there is none. If her partner lives there she won’t get the council tax discount for a single adult. So I wonder if the £1500 is the bulk of her income and that’s making her angrier?

It sounds like OP’s DH has been generous if rather short-sighted around the property aspect. Now he is taking a turn at being the at-home parent while OP works more. Sounds fine to me, lots of people share finances and childcare by taking turns working or staying home. Having paid for 9 years it doesn’t sound to me like he is doing it to get out of paying for his kids. Who knows, perhaps he’ll find part-time work after a bit (don’t know how old he is) just like many mums who stay home do.

In any case, I would not offer the children’s mum £500.

The house won’t count as an asset for UC purposes because she’s living in it.

Ubertomusic · 29/06/2026 13:01

DaringlyDizzy · 29/06/2026 11:54

ONLY on NM can a father have the kids 40% of the time, do all school runs and main care, see them everyday, pay the ex 5 times as much as he should, leave her a house and more and yet be flamed. No hope out there!

Only on MN can people 100% believe that one side are complete angels shining in the darkness of life, and the other side is utter shit 😁

JoshLymanSwagger · 29/06/2026 13:00

PeppySloth · 29/06/2026 12:39

So…
SHE get the children up and takes them to school.
YOU pick them up from school
YOU give them tea
YOU take them to their clubs
YOU attend all parents eve/parent things for the children
YOU shower/bath them
YOU drop them off at 8pm
SHE has them for an hour and puts them to bed

YOU both work
HER and her partner DONT work, have no mortgage

I expect you pay for trips/school uniform etc going by what you’ve said.

and YOU owe them money?????

Agreed, but at 14 and 16, I doubt there's much "putting to bed" going on. More likely a shrug as they ignore her and go to their rooms.

ThreadGuardDog · 29/06/2026 13:00

NerdyBird · 29/06/2026 12:55

I wonder if she is actually getting much UC? If the house is verifiably in her name it would count as an asset surely, so she wouldn’t get anything towards rent as there is none. If her partner lives there she won’t get the council tax discount for a single adult. So I wonder if the £1500 is the bulk of her income and that’s making her angrier?

It sounds like OP’s DH has been generous if rather short-sighted around the property aspect. Now he is taking a turn at being the at-home parent while OP works more. Sounds fine to me, lots of people share finances and childcare by taking turns working or staying home. Having paid for 9 years it doesn’t sound to me like he is doing it to get out of paying for his kids. Who knows, perhaps he’ll find part-time work after a bit (don’t know how old he is) just like many mums who stay home do.

In any case, I would not offer the children’s mum £500.

If neither mum nor her partner are working, they will likely be claiming benefits. It’s my understanding that child maintenance payments are not counted as income for benefits like UC, so it would be disregarded. So help would be given with things like council tax. Obviously there is no rent, so nothing would be payable in that respect anyway.

Ubertomusic · 29/06/2026 12:59

Luckydog7 · 29/06/2026 11:52

As a starting point why not say that the days you normally drop them at mums for bedtime you just keep them at yours overnight.

This keeps the routine almost identical but reduces the faffing/drop offs and you actually get the legal credit for all the care you provide.

Ex can keep the weekends she currently does.

If you offer this to the kids it might be easiest as from their perspective they will be seeing their mum almost exactly the same amount and you can explain this if they feel guilty about leaving her.

It will make any complains from her about not seeing them seem utterly irrational.

Mmmmm... explaining alienating children, isn't that nice.

stargirl27 · 29/06/2026 12:59

Housebashing · 29/06/2026 12:41

Verbal commitments are enforceable bylaw as well

Not when it comes to legal ownership of a property.