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AIBU to ask my friend to leave after criticising my diet?

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Dogingarden · 28/06/2026 22:13

I have a friend staying with me at the moment because it's just been my birthday.

I have been having treatment for breast cancer and have had no appetite for several weeks. Today I had a craving for pizza and have eaten a large pizza and some chips. I've also eaten most of a bar of green and blacks chocolate today too, along with some other bits.

Friend isn't very impressed and has said several times I need to eat healthy food. She's very much into healthy eating and is very disciplined about what she eats.

I've explained that my consultant says to eat whatever I fancy when I fancy and not worry about what I'm eating as long as I'm getting calories. I have long nearly two stone from chemo side effects, for context.

Friend disagreed with this and said I shouldn't be eating "processed crap" because it's just going to make the cancer worse.

I'm extremely upset by her attitude and what she's said. She's gone up to bed and I'm sitting in the garden with my dog feeling awful. She's meant to be staying until wed but I'm going to ask her to leave in the morning.

Wibu?

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ExoticMango · 29/06/2026 10:22

KrazyKatty · 29/06/2026 10:21

Thing is, you know she’s right about healthy eating. Surviving cancer is when you absolutely need to look after yourself and that includes eating well.
Processed crap will not assist in your recovery.

The odd meal of chips and pizza isn’t a problem and your friend knows that. She is clearly worried for you and is doing her best to help. Just tell her straight you don’t appreciate her advice right now but don’t push her away.

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Fed is best in this situation and OP needs to be able to eat without judgement.

KrazyKatty · 29/06/2026 10:21

Thing is, you know she’s right about healthy eating. Surviving cancer is when you absolutely need to look after yourself and that includes eating well.
Processed crap will not assist in your recovery.

The odd meal of chips and pizza isn’t a problem and your friend knows that. She is clearly worried for you and is doing her best to help. Just tell her straight you don’t appreciate her advice right now but don’t push her away.

ExoticMango · 29/06/2026 10:21

NewGoldFox · 29/06/2026 10:18

Green and blacks is healthy eating imo.

I wholeheartedly agree.

Whatnow777 · 29/06/2026 10:19

I chose YANBU. Then I realised I am probably a bit of a hypocrite. I criticise my mother for something she does which is 'unhealthy' all the time as she has quote a few life-limiting conditions. I hate myself after I do it, but I can't help it sometimes because it is very hard to watch someone you care deeply about do something you think might make them worse. I'm saying, your friend may find it hard too in that way. But YANBU for wanting her to leave as she is not respecting your wishes. I'd probably give her one last chance and tell her how it makes you feel and that she needs to stop.

NewGoldFox · 29/06/2026 10:18

Green and blacks is healthy eating imo.

2chocolateoranges · 29/06/2026 10:15

FoxyLocksie · 29/06/2026 00:20

Your friend is right, of course, that what we eat has profound and far-reaching effects on our health and longevity.

I listened to a very interesting episode of The Food Programme on radio 4 last week, which was on this very topic.
I think it's very remiss of oncologists not to inform their patients of the power of food. What we eat really does make a difference.

Explain to me how top athletes end up with cancer or MND or other life limiting illnesses then?

if food is our power why do we see fit and healthy, Olympic athletes, footballers with cancer?
im a great believer of everything in moderation when it comes to food and drink.

when my mil was having chemo any food she ate was a bonus.

StrictlyCoffee · 29/06/2026 10:15

YANBU

what a cow

Squirrel60 · 29/06/2026 10:06

What an absolute self-obsessed arsehole she is.

REAL friends would never be so nasty or insensitive, cancer or not.

Toss her out, and tell her she's banned from your place for life, and you want nothing more to do with her.

I'm so sorry you're having cancer trouble. I hope you get through it somehow.

godmum56 · 29/06/2026 10:04

FoxyLocksie · 29/06/2026 09:53

Thank you, that is very helpful. Yes, I see now you've put it that way, taking out the human side. My reply was too fact based and impersonal. I will learn from this and modify the way I speak in future. I do have a tendency to interrupt because I feel like I am bursting with "the answer" and I can sometimes launch into replies and conversations without considering the possible impact first and get the tone wrong.

Can I suggest that anytime that you feel that you are "Bursting with THE answer" you take that as a warning sign to keep quiet unless 1. its a genuine
emergency or 2. its a very frivolous circumstance like someone asking on facebook what the thing is that they found in their shed and you KNOW that you are factually correct.

HettyMeg · 29/06/2026 10:01

Very insensitive of her, I'd be pissed off if a friend said this to me in any context. Just because you are going through treatment does not give her a right to make judgemental comments. It probably does come from a place of love and well-meaning concern but the way it makes you feel isn't great and you need cheerleaders right now. Also one pizza and a bar of chocolate is hardly a terrible diet, it's about balance. I think you should be honest about how that has made you feel.

godmum56 · 29/06/2026 09:59

LilytheThink · 29/06/2026 09:40

What infuriated me was being told by a friend that positive thinking would help me beat cancer, because it worked for her partner. A partner who actually had died. She said he would have died sooner otherwise. Bollocks, but impossible to prove as most of these things are.
By her theory anyone who died obviously hadn’t wanted hard enough to stay alive which was pretty offensive. Plus research - by real scientists, not pseudo ones - shows that positive thinking will improve quality of life in cancer patients, but it doesn’t extend life.
Diet wise I was advised by oncology nurses that you need to be careful what you eat during chemo as many of the things normally eaten can potentially cause problems when your immune system is being hammered by the drugs to kill the cancer. I was told it was safest to follow a pregnancy type diet.
Ignore your friend.

you know what gets right up my underwear? "Lost their battle with cancer" As though they didn't fight hard enough, could have done more...and yes the postive thinking thing. Speaking as someone who lost their husband to cancer I wish that all non clincians would shut the fuck with their stupid unsought advice.

Survivingnotthriving24 · 29/06/2026 09:57

A starving body won't heal, you're doing the right thing by eating what you can when you can. Our bodies are quite clever, yours has recognised you need more energy and fat and made you crave something to give you exactly that.

No one going through cancer treatment needs judgement, you're right to ask her to leave.

Fibrous · 29/06/2026 09:55

Your friend is an ignorant fool. Cancer is incredibly metabolic - that’s why one of the early signs is unexplained wight loss. Eat anything and everything that you can.

WildLeader · 29/06/2026 09:54

Dogingarden · 29/06/2026 00:32

Please go back and read all of my posts. My diet before this hell started was good. I didn't get cancer because I didn't eat enough veggies, I got it because I have the gene for it. I'm going to have a double mastectomy and a hysterectomy at some point.

Oh love! Please accept this as the very longest of long hugs. You’ve been through so much. You’ve lost so much, and you are 100% correct that you are under weight and absolutely need to see if you can regain a bit for resilience

and ffs… if you can’t eat your body weight in pizza and chips on your birthday, after all you’ve been through, when can you.

with love and prayers for you. Keep fighting!

ps: it was my birthday on Thursday, when was yours? Are we birthday twins? 😂

FoxyLocksie · 29/06/2026 09:53

Happyjoe · 29/06/2026 09:32

Your timing was wrong, your wording was wrong. And for someone who's shown an interest in this, you have taken out the human side of it. It is very very hard to eat on chemo. Anything really does help, people need encouragement, support, not judgement.

Thank you, that is very helpful. Yes, I see now you've put it that way, taking out the human side. My reply was too fact based and impersonal. I will learn from this and modify the way I speak in future. I do have a tendency to interrupt because I feel like I am bursting with "the answer" and I can sometimes launch into replies and conversations without considering the possible impact first and get the tone wrong.

elfendom1 · 29/06/2026 09:51

There are some clowns on here. Most cancers aren't food related, most cancers take years to develop so that when they are noticed, diet makes no difference - that horse has bolted. And finally if you are rapidly losing huge amounts of tissue and muscle mass and have no appetite, then any calories when you can manage to get them in matter, from ANY source. You don't know until you have walked in OP's shoes.

LilytheThink · 29/06/2026 09:40

What infuriated me was being told by a friend that positive thinking would help me beat cancer, because it worked for her partner. A partner who actually had died. She said he would have died sooner otherwise. Bollocks, but impossible to prove as most of these things are.
By her theory anyone who died obviously hadn’t wanted hard enough to stay alive which was pretty offensive. Plus research - by real scientists, not pseudo ones - shows that positive thinking will improve quality of life in cancer patients, but it doesn’t extend life.
Diet wise I was advised by oncology nurses that you need to be careful what you eat during chemo as many of the things normally eaten can potentially cause problems when your immune system is being hammered by the drugs to kill the cancer. I was told it was safest to follow a pregnancy type diet.
Ignore your friend.

Kirbert2 · 29/06/2026 09:39

hugasaurus · 29/06/2026 09:37

Yeah I don’t think OP needs advice on what to eat to avoid cancer seeing as she already has it.

When my mum was going through chemo she had loads of ice cream as she had mouth ulcers and it was one of the only things she could stomach. She was an incredibly healthy eater otherwise, barely ate meat, everything home-cooked. But during treatment she just needed calories.

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On the children's cancer ward my son was on, the chef would regularly give the children ice cream and milkshakes to soothe sore mouths and encourage calorie intake.

Aluna · 29/06/2026 09:37

I’d hand her her arse but I wouldn’t ask her to leave unless I wanted to end the friendship.

BoredZelda · 29/06/2026 09:37

latetothefisting · 29/06/2026 09:30

At the end of the day even if the friend is right about healthy eating and even if it came from a position of care - she should have mentioned it once and then, once OP made it clear that she was not receptive to her advice, shut the fuck up. Not kept on repeating it and being disapproving.

There's a time and a place for friendly advice, haranguing a cancer patient on their birthday after they have made it clear they are not interested at this point in time is not kind or caring.

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But this assumes that the cancer patient is ignorant and has absolutely no knowledge of what would be good for her or not. That’s like saying it’s ok to tell an overweight person once that they are overweight then just leaving it. They know. They don’t need anything “from a position of care”.

hugasaurus · 29/06/2026 09:37

Yeah I don’t think OP needs advice on what to eat to avoid cancer seeing as she already has it.

When my mum was going through chemo she had loads of ice cream as she had mouth ulcers and it was one of the only things she could stomach. She was an incredibly healthy eater otherwise, barely ate meat, everything home-cooked. But during treatment she just needed calories.

DugnuttEyeBoogies · 29/06/2026 09:36

saraclara · 29/06/2026 00:47

There's a world of difference between eating healthily prior or when recovering, and when you're in the midst of chemo or severely underweight straight after it. A cancer patient in active treatment needs to eat when what what they can.

It's the height of ignorance and arrogance to come onto this thread and spout healthy eating, when OP is only 7st at 5' 9".

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Yep. Huge difference between eating during active treatment and then eating afterwards.

FudgeFudy · 29/06/2026 09:35

Yes on a population level, diets high in UPFs will increase cancer rates. No for an individual who already has cancer eating a pizza and some chocolate is not going to do anything harmful to them at all. Eating when faced with lost appetite, changed tastebuds, managing to get some pleasure from food, sharing food experiences with supportive friends and family - all of this is far more beneficial than forcing down a carrot or some ground up apricot kernels or whatever other bollocks the OP's "friend" was suggesting.

This is exactly it, and what I meant when I said upthread about food nazis never differentiating between the occasional bit of 'unhealthy' food and stuffing your face with it all the time. Here we have a woman in the immediate aftermath of cancer treatment, who hasn't been able to eat much at all of late, whose own doctor has said just eat anything to get the calories in, and who has told us about one day where she ate a pizza and some chocolate. And yet her friend still saw fit to have a pop and we still have the 'Well actually...' brigade on here telling us what they've heard on Radio 4 about cancer and diet in general like it's somehow relevant. Does my head in.

BoredZelda · 29/06/2026 09:35

itsarealhumdinger · 29/06/2026 08:53

Actually you can easily find studies illustrating that your gut microbes directly determine response to cancer treatments. Evidence is growing all the time, both about specific foods and fibre.

I wish I’d known about it when my sister was being treated with immunotherapy, because it makes a massive difference there. But she was told eat sugar and McDonald’s if you want, as long as you get calories. We didn’t know then that the ingredients were likely to fuel her cancel and deplete the microbes that could have helped her respond. It’s too late for her now. But it might not be for others.

I would never have wanted to make her feel bad for her food choices at such a horrendous time. But I so wish we’d had the evidence that is available now. I will always, always wonder what difference it could have made.

Actually those studies refer to a small number of specific cancers in a small number of specific scenarios, and note that in other situations far from having a good or no effect, it can make things worse.

Those studies are important, and work is ongoing in this area, but they are in their infancy and until the research is concluded across all cancers and situations, following that blanket advice in all situations is very dangerous.

MajorProcrastination · 29/06/2026 09:35

My friend made all sorts of changes to her diet during her cancer treatment for stage IV breast cancer, including cutting out cheese and sugar and alcohol, she was really strict with it, she had also lost a lot of weight due to treatment. Shortly before she died suddenly (she was living very well) she let loose a bit more at her birthday party and I'm so glad we had that. I wish she'd got to enjoy more delicious cheeses and exquisite chocolates and ice cold wines.

So YANBU, you've listened to your body and it's totally OK to enjoy a pizza. You're not eating greasy processed food every meal. Your friend is right that diet can help make a difference to your health and recovery but she's wrong AF to suggest you're not allowed to enjoy a pizza and chips ever again.

If you're eating processed food every day and every meal, yes, your friend is a good friend for bringing it up. However, if you're otherwise following all the advice and you've just chosen pizza and chips for a weekend treat, the friend has missed the mark.

One meal won't make a huge difference as long as you're eating a balanced and nutritious diet in the long run. It is important to fuel yourself and listen to the research. But when some treatments can make you feel nauseous or ruin your appetite or taste buds, eating for pleasure is an absolute treat, especially when you've had your world rocked by a diagnosis. I really hope you enjoyed your pizza and chips and posh chocolates.

Listen to your doctor, not your judgemental friend. Also let the friend know that she hurt you and you'll be distancing yourself from her for a while to look after your emotional wellbeing at this difficult time.

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