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AIBU for stepping in when a livery horse was left unattended for 2 days?

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Balloonhearts · 28/06/2026 11:00

So, I really don't think I did anything wrong here. I'm not unreasonable. I'm pretty much just venting here instead of being unprofessional on the group chat. Sorry, its a long one.

I work at a riding school which is part school, part private livery. Yesterday, I was working with the barn rats (group of kids who help out at weekends/after school/any time their parents don't forcibly evict them)

We have 2 stable blocks, back-to-back. I was working in one block, mucking and two of the older kids went off to start the other block which is mostly livery/working livery. This was about 11 am. All the horses are out by 9. We turn out the school ones and working ones, private livery are DIY so do their own, there are 5 PL at the moment.

They came back almost immediately and told me Dom (not his real name) was still in and was weaving in his stall, windsucking and upset.

I went round to look as Dom's owner is an early bird, we hardly see her. She's in at 7, feeds him, turns him out, does his jobs and we don't see her again until bedtime.

He was indeed, in and very agitated. I went in and found that he had no water at all, his bucket was dry, no hay and there was no bucket in there to indicate he had been fed. There was also a LOT of poo and wet bedding.

I sent a child for a haynet and one for the hose and they filled his water,which he guzzled so fast they had to keep stopping him for fear he'd bloody colic.

I text the barn owner asking if he was on stall rest or something and she said no so I tried to ring his owner. No answer. I messaged the group chat, asking 'has anybody seen Karen this morning?' Nobody had. Someone asked if Dom was OK I said yes, he's OK, just trying to reach Karen.

One lady said that she was trying to text her last night as she hadn't been down at her usual time and the other lady had brought Dom in for her so he wouldn't be left out alone. Assumed she was just running late.

Established that Dom had not been fed or watered this morning or night before. No one had seen Karen.

I got him a scoop of the school feed. Didn't know what he usually eats so I went safe and just gave him a scoop of chaff and a scoop of pony nuts.

Tried Karen again, no answer, left another message. At 12.30 we still hadn't heard anything so I told one of the kids to put him out.

Now this was my fault as I didn't think to specify where. He normally goes in one of the little paddocks with one friend.

Child put him in one of the larger fields, as that's where his friend was, with 6 other horses. We have 6 pastures in total for the purposes of resting some while we use the others and being able to split up horses who don't get on or are prone to sillyfuckery.

He was fine out there, no one he didn't get along with, was peace and harmony. We mucked his stall as it was disgusting. Used the school bedding as we couldn't get into her storage cupboard, where her shavings are. Left hay in there and full water as we still didn't know wtf Karen was.

She appeared at about 8pm, half hour before we brought them in and closed for the night.

Hit the roof. How dare we interfere with her horse, demanded to know who put him in the 'wrong' pasture. Child immediately fessed up and apologised and she had a right go at her. Told her Dom could have been hurt being turned out in a herd.

I stepped in, pointed out we don't normally look after Dom so how was she to know? Also pointed out that Dom was fine and with horses he got along well with. He was in the 'Chill Field" where the calm horses go. He was a lot happier out there than stuck in a hot smelly stall.

She then saw the hay and started complaining that was the wrong hay. She gives him sweetened haylage which was, again locked in her cupboard. We do not have any sweet haylage. We teach beginners. We prefer those ponies and horses not to go absolutely nutcrackers on sweetened feed.

Most of ours are easy keepers who get far too many treats and are honestly getting a bit rotund. They do not need extra calories. They eat regular hay.

I'm afraid I rather lost my temper and told her she had some fucking nerve to criticise when she'd abandoned her horse for the last 48 hours with no food or water, hadn't even told anyone she couldn't make it so we could at least feed him.

I called her ungrateful because we'd fed her horse out of our own pockets and told her the child she was telling off had looked after her horse better than she had.

She complained to the barn owner who backed me and is now bitching about me on the group chat saying I interfered with her horse, did everything wrong and bad mouthed her on the group. I didn't. I just asked in there if anyone had seen her, trying to work out when she was last here.

She'd just vanished. Excuse me for caring if she was dead in a ditch.

Ungrateful cow.

And breathe....

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Brunchatstephanies · 28/06/2026 12:46

Balloonhearts · 28/06/2026 11:12

I'm trying not to be unprofessional in writing. Verbally, that ship has sailed but I'm restraining myself on the chat.

It was 37 fucking degrees Friday. He had no water refill after 7 o clock that morning until late morning Saturday when the kids realised. I don't even know if she did it then since she put him straight out. OK there was water in the field while he was out during the day but nothing overnight. No hay overnight either. No dinner, no breakfast. Poor Dom.

Write the facts and nothing else, include the temperature and the state of the horse and leave it at that. She should be kicked out of the livery arrangement for neglecting her animal.

Elieza · 28/06/2026 12:43

britnay · 28/06/2026 12:07

Yard owner here. YANBU.
However:
Barn manager should have been aware that the horse wasn't being attended to and made sure that it had been taken care of appropriately.

Barn manager should have been the one trying to contact the owner.
Barn manager should be giving that horse owner notice for A) not attending to their horse and not organising for anyone else to do it B) being abusive towards staff who were taking care of her horse as well as possible, given that they could not access her supplies C) continuing to be abusive online.
I would give her 48 hours notice for that. She would not be permitted on site and the horse would be kept on full livery until departure, payable in full by the livery.

this.

if the horse owner and yard owner could not be contacted then i’d expect the girls there to do the sensible thing. I would hope someone would do that for me. Both couod have been, god forbid, in the same car accident and hospitalised unconscious. Someone needs to step up.

if i were the yard owner id do a nightly patrol anyway to make sure all were securely locked down and had water.

That poor horse. I hope he’s ok today. I’d keep an eye on him if i were his owner to make sure he’s out of the woods. Colic is a swine. But i imagine she won’t do anything as she seems like an idiot.

what did she think would happen if she left that poor animal without water at the very bare minimum? fool.

you probably saved that horses life.

on all my yards we all left our breakfasts outside the doors the night before (in lidded wood or plastic boxes of necessary due to vermin) and the first one up would chuck them over the door. (no opening indoors so no risk of accidents) That way nobody is left starving. It’s cruel to feed only some. Feed all at once. You’d also know immediately if someone hadn’t been looked after. (You leave a note instead if nil by mouth for whatever reason eg vet)

honestly i’d be considering having a word with the yard owner again and raise concerns and ask what could be put in place to prevent this happening again.

I’d also consider now phoning the rspca (or sspca in scotland) and asking advice as it’s negligent to just leave a horse effectively abandoned. she is an arse. yeah her kid was sick but wtaf.

Looklively · 28/06/2026 12:40

The poll says it all OP - you were/ are most definitely in the right and are doing the best thing by venting here and remaining professional on the yard chat. I doubt anyone could know the facts and not agree with your actions. Now that you’ve got validation here, be sure to calmly put your manager and the livery owner straight, and in writing, to make sure there is a clear chronology of events and responsibilities. Feel for you though - nobody likes to see an animal suffering! X

Balloonhearts · 28/06/2026 12:39

Agapornis · 28/06/2026 12:38

Is the owner planning to send a unsubtle message reminding all owners that if horses are found in this state and the owner can not be reached despite reasonable efforts, the cost will be £xxx and RSPCA will be notified? Because they should.

She probably already has sent an email. She was unimpressed and is charging her for the bedding and feed/hay.

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Agapornis · 28/06/2026 12:38

Is the owner planning to send a unsubtle message reminding all owners that if horses are found in this state and the owner can not be reached despite reasonable efforts, the cost will be £xxx and RSPCA will be notified? Because they should.

Balloonhearts · 28/06/2026 12:37

Heylittlesongbird · 28/06/2026 12:30

I don’t know much about horses, but presumably if you hadn’t stepped in it would likely have been fatal for the horse to have no food or drink for that long in this heat?

If he'd been left another night possibly. I don't know when he finished his water so not sure. He'd grazed yesterday while out so he wouldn't starve that quickly, although he may get stomach ulcers. Biggest threat is colic. We're watching him closely.

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Balloonhearts · 28/06/2026 12:35

whatsadentist · 28/06/2026 11:46

And is ‘Karen’ her real name or just another slur?

As someone called Karen I am still getting pissed off with this.

Not her real name but similar. It's just the first K name that came to mind.

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Heylittlesongbird · 28/06/2026 12:30

I don’t know much about horses, but presumably if you hadn’t stepped in it would likely have been fatal for the horse to have no food or drink for that long in this heat?

QuirkyHorse · 28/06/2026 12:26

Time for her to be handed her notice!

I am on a purely DIY yard. If anyone new moves into our barn, we ask that if we notice things "wrong" are they happy for one of us to rectify it.
Noone has ever said no and we all look out for each other's horses, that's the way it should be.

Marieb19 · 28/06/2026 12:20

I'd be telling her to find a new livery yard. You can't accept bullying of staff or volunteers.

Cannybeme · 28/06/2026 12:12

Teeed · 28/06/2026 11:33

I see this slightly differently, perhaps.

Someone else brought the horse in which is the reason he was not fed or watered. Playing devils advocate, had he been left on the field where Karen thought he was, he would not have been without?

But still OP found this animal in distress. Tried to contact the owner with no luck. Poor animal would have been waiting all day with no water in a mucky stall.

Balloonhearts · 28/06/2026 12:11

Never not turned up before. She's a bit standoffish, has a few people she chats to but mostly she's in and out 7am and 8pm like clockwork.

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Cannybeme · 28/06/2026 12:10

You were not being unreasonable. You saw an animal in distress and dealt with it. You tried calling owner several times to no avail.

gingercat02 · 28/06/2026 12:08

PurpleEmperor · 28/06/2026 11:40

Who turns their horses out during the day in summer? Surely they are out at night and in during the day?

Em everyone? My cousin is an international event rider and his horses are out all day and in at night. I'm surprised riding school ponies aren't out at night and in during the day for work.
Horses should be outside in a herd type environment when possible.

britnay · 28/06/2026 12:07

Yard owner here. YANBU.
However:
Barn manager should have been aware that the horse wasn't being attended to and made sure that it had been taken care of appropriately.

Barn manager should have been the one trying to contact the owner.
Barn manager should be giving that horse owner notice for A) not attending to their horse and not organising for anyone else to do it B) being abusive towards staff who were taking care of her horse as well as possible, given that they could not access her supplies C) continuing to be abusive online.
I would give her 48 hours notice for that. She would not be permitted on site and the horse would be kept on full livery until departure, payable in full by the livery.

CurtsyFriends · 28/06/2026 12:06

Is she normally reliable and this is out of character for her? Or has she done similar before? It could have been some kind of emergency. Yes, she should have informed someone, asked on the group chat if someone would bring him in/muck him out/feed and water him.

I agree that leaving a horse out on its own can cause a lot of stress and injury. Especially a highly strung one.

I think what needs to be taken away from this is that if someone notices an owner hasn’t turned up for whatever reason then they need to inform someone and post on the group chat about it. That way everyone knows what is happening with that animal and how long it’s been in/out. I understand why the first person brought him in, but had they flagged that he hadn’t seen his owner then the livery owner would have kept an eye on him themselves and made sure he was fed/watered/clean. It perhaps also needs to be a rule that each horse has their schedule and feed on a chart on their stable door, so if their owner can’t make it then it’s easy for others to feed them the right thing and know when something is out of the ordinary.

And perhaps a spare key for each person’s locker needs to be kept with a trusted person, head groom or the yard owner?

mindutopia · 28/06/2026 11:56

She very lucky he didn’t colic, from lack of food or water or from stress. She’s also very lucky you showed concern. If this was another livery I knew, I’d be panicking she was dead on her kitchen floor alone.

Unless this is incredibly out of character, as the yard owner, I’d probably be asking her to leave after this.

Balloonhearts · 28/06/2026 11:55

catslovehairties · 28/06/2026 11:38

This is my view as well.

Horses are fine being left out - they don't need to be locked in stalls overnight, and the only reason he was stuck in a hot stall with no food or water is because someone took it upon themselves to interfere, and then you decided you had the right to feed a horse you knew nothing about.

I think she did right bringing him in. He's a highly strung warmblood who hates being out alone and would just have worked himself up and that way lies madness, vets bills, and property damage. They usually come in together.

He's also not an easy keeper, always winters underweight so didn't want to give him nothing, considering he'd skipped 2 feeds already. I swear he drops weight every time he poops.

I know he usually has some sort of hard feed, think it's Ease and Excel from seeing it in the bucket and chaff is always a safe bet. He usually has barley and stuff too but we didn't have any so I worked with what I had.

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Delphiniumandlupins · 28/06/2026 11:53

I think the lady who brought Dom in should have at least given him water. She was obviously trying to help but never got any reply from Karen (maybe she's not the sort to send a "thanks for bringing Dom in" message). Definitely Karen is at fault for not being in touch with the yard, did she expect her horse to have been left in the field overnight? (I think that would be fine for many horses but seems not your policy.)

LondonLass2026 · 28/06/2026 11:53

Poor horse. You did the right thing. You didn't make any silly assumptions or interfere needlessly. You saw a huge problem and you handled it.

That she's bitching about you online just shows what a childish fuck she is.

PrincessofWills · 28/06/2026 11:53

OutOfApricots · 28/06/2026 11:49

People were not interfering, they were concerned for the animal's welfare.

The owner fucking off and completely abandoning her horse with no food or water is what caused the situation.

It wasn't left without food or water by the owner, but by someone taking it upon themselves to interfere. I too would be mega pissed off if I'd decided to leave my horse out for whatever reason only to discover it had been brought in, dumped in a stable, not fed, watered, or mucked out . . .

OutOfApricots · 28/06/2026 11:49

PrincessofWills · 28/06/2026 11:37

The horse should have been left out in the field. People interfering is what has caused the whole situation.

People were not interfering, they were concerned for the animal's welfare.

The owner fucking off and completely abandoning her horse with no food or water is what caused the situation.

JanBlues2026 · 28/06/2026 11:46

She is definitely in the wrong but just to give her slight benefit of the doubt, she thought her horse was in the field with access to shade and water etc

whatsadentist · 28/06/2026 11:46

DidntLikeTheEnding · 28/06/2026 11:26

Is barn rats a commonly used term in horsey circles? I think that's a horrible way to refer to anyone, especially kids.

And is ‘Karen’ her real name or just another slur?

As someone called Karen I am still getting pissed off with this.

LoudTealHare · 28/06/2026 11:45

catslovehairties · 28/06/2026 11:38

This is my view as well.

Horses are fine being left out - they don't need to be locked in stalls overnight, and the only reason he was stuck in a hot stall with no food or water is because someone took it upon themselves to interfere, and then you decided you had the right to feed a horse you knew nothing about.

If you’re a horse owner thank god you’re not on my yard! Basic courtesy is that if the owner could not attend her horse, she should have notified the YO! If the horse has a routine to come in at night, it will get very stressed being left on its own, stress can cause colic! OP did the right thing, she tried contacting the owner, who did not respond, no one had seen her, so no one knew if she was alive or dead! I’ve a friend who had a horrific accident bring her horses in, had everyone just assumed she’d left her horses out she would have died! So think on