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AIBU for stepping in when a livery horse was left unattended for 2 days?

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Balloonhearts · 28/06/2026 11:00

So, I really don't think I did anything wrong here. I'm not unreasonable. I'm pretty much just venting here instead of being unprofessional on the group chat. Sorry, its a long one.

I work at a riding school which is part school, part private livery. Yesterday, I was working with the barn rats (group of kids who help out at weekends/after school/any time their parents don't forcibly evict them)

We have 2 stable blocks, back-to-back. I was working in one block, mucking and two of the older kids went off to start the other block which is mostly livery/working livery. This was about 11 am. All the horses are out by 9. We turn out the school ones and working ones, private livery are DIY so do their own, there are 5 PL at the moment.

They came back almost immediately and told me Dom (not his real name) was still in and was weaving in his stall, windsucking and upset.

I went round to look as Dom's owner is an early bird, we hardly see her. She's in at 7, feeds him, turns him out, does his jobs and we don't see her again until bedtime.

He was indeed, in and very agitated. I went in and found that he had no water at all, his bucket was dry, no hay and there was no bucket in there to indicate he had been fed. There was also a LOT of poo and wet bedding.

I sent a child for a haynet and one for the hose and they filled his water,which he guzzled so fast they had to keep stopping him for fear he'd bloody colic.

I text the barn owner asking if he was on stall rest or something and she said no so I tried to ring his owner. No answer. I messaged the group chat, asking 'has anybody seen Karen this morning?' Nobody had. Someone asked if Dom was OK I said yes, he's OK, just trying to reach Karen.

One lady said that she was trying to text her last night as she hadn't been down at her usual time and the other lady had brought Dom in for her so he wouldn't be left out alone. Assumed she was just running late.

Established that Dom had not been fed or watered this morning or night before. No one had seen Karen.

I got him a scoop of the school feed. Didn't know what he usually eats so I went safe and just gave him a scoop of chaff and a scoop of pony nuts.

Tried Karen again, no answer, left another message. At 12.30 we still hadn't heard anything so I told one of the kids to put him out.

Now this was my fault as I didn't think to specify where. He normally goes in one of the little paddocks with one friend.

Child put him in one of the larger fields, as that's where his friend was, with 6 other horses. We have 6 pastures in total for the purposes of resting some while we use the others and being able to split up horses who don't get on or are prone to sillyfuckery.

He was fine out there, no one he didn't get along with, was peace and harmony. We mucked his stall as it was disgusting. Used the school bedding as we couldn't get into her storage cupboard, where her shavings are. Left hay in there and full water as we still didn't know wtf Karen was.

She appeared at about 8pm, half hour before we brought them in and closed for the night.

Hit the roof. How dare we interfere with her horse, demanded to know who put him in the 'wrong' pasture. Child immediately fessed up and apologised and she had a right go at her. Told her Dom could have been hurt being turned out in a herd.

I stepped in, pointed out we don't normally look after Dom so how was she to know? Also pointed out that Dom was fine and with horses he got along well with. He was in the 'Chill Field" where the calm horses go. He was a lot happier out there than stuck in a hot smelly stall.

She then saw the hay and started complaining that was the wrong hay. She gives him sweetened haylage which was, again locked in her cupboard. We do not have any sweet haylage. We teach beginners. We prefer those ponies and horses not to go absolutely nutcrackers on sweetened feed.

Most of ours are easy keepers who get far too many treats and are honestly getting a bit rotund. They do not need extra calories. They eat regular hay.

I'm afraid I rather lost my temper and told her she had some fucking nerve to criticise when she'd abandoned her horse for the last 48 hours with no food or water, hadn't even told anyone she couldn't make it so we could at least feed him.

I called her ungrateful because we'd fed her horse out of our own pockets and told her the child she was telling off had looked after her horse better than she had.

She complained to the barn owner who backed me and is now bitching about me on the group chat saying I interfered with her horse, did everything wrong and bad mouthed her on the group. I didn't. I just asked in there if anyone had seen her, trying to work out when she was last here.

She'd just vanished. Excuse me for caring if she was dead in a ditch.

Ungrateful cow.

And breathe....

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Whippets81 · 28/06/2026 15:21

Have you used AI for this? You’re using American terms but ££ etc so I’m confused.

If this is true then this should have gone straight to the yard owner/manager not managed by kids helping - putting a horse in the wrong field is an absolutely disaster waiting to happen which non horsey people wouldn’t understand but my horse was killed by someone putting the wrong horse in his field - if in doubt he should have been put somewhere on his own.

If that was my yard anyone leaving a horse in a stable more that 12 hours without visiting would be given their marching orders.

Balloonhearts · 28/06/2026 15:20

Liveries are in at night, he wouldn't have been left out and she knows this. He'd either have gone bananas when his friend went in or his friends owner would have brought him in (as did happen) assuming she was simply running late.

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krustykittens · 28/06/2026 15:15

Whether or not the horse was fine to be left alone in the field , it is a condition of her livery that his owner checks on him twice a day. She was negligent not to let anyone know that she couldn’t come up to him. Had she bothered to have some communication, none of this would have hapoened.

Having been left completely in the dark by his owner, who wasn’t answering her phone, everyone else did the best they could by trying to keep to his routine.

Balloonhearts · 28/06/2026 15:13

Zoonosis · 28/06/2026 14:41

JFC, no, horses aren't prone to injury because they are "dumb" or "sillyfuckers" but because they are flighty prey animals that are overwhelmingly kept by humans in conditions that are unnatural and stressful for them and used for leisure activities that carry an injury risk.

What is it with "horsey" people constantly talking like they hate horses and don't understand the first thing about them under the mistaken impression it makes them sound cool and knowledgeable.

😂 Tells me you have never had a horse. If you'd spent any significant amount of time with them, you would know that they are complete goofs.

We have a 30 year old mare who needed stitches because she jumped out of her field, directly into a tree for no other reason than the cow parsley on that side of the fence was clearly superior to the cow parsley on her side.

One who diligently pulled his friends tail repeatedly until he was kicked in the face despite being the best of friends the other 99% of the time.

One who can open bolts and let's himself into areas where he is very not welcome, most memorably the toilet block because he decided he could not be more than 6 inches from me at any time and also once tried to burgle an ice cream van.

One who cast himself in a large water trough with his legs underneath him and did such a superb job of it that we had to tip it over with the tractor to get him out.

Ask any horse owner and they will add to this list of ridiculous misadventures.

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Teeed · 28/06/2026 15:12

Allthegoodhorses · 28/06/2026 14:06

Playing devils advocate with no knowledge. Most horses can not be left out in a field if the rest of the herd is in. Even if they don't share a field with horses. If I bring my horse in from her field I then have to bring the neighbouring horse in from her field as she gets extremely distressed being out there alone. This includes cantering around neighing her head off, which in the heat of last week is not a great look. Also we do not know if the field had any shade and again with the heat of last week most horses would be stabled to get some respite during the day.

Oh, I do have knowledge. Neither situation was ideal but I think it’s unfair to blame the owner for the horse having no feed/water when she thought he was in the field.

Quooth · 28/06/2026 15:11

Manxexile · 28/06/2026 13:03

You have the same children "helping out" between 12:30pm and 8pm on a Saturday?

Have you got your priorities right?

(I don't know anything about making money out of keeping horses so I'm asking a serious question)

It's a thing for horsey kids who don't have the money for a horse of their own or often even for riding lessons.
Those children would sleep in the stables if they didn't get prised away.
My sister did it back in the early 70s and it led to a lifelong love of horses.

Teeed · 28/06/2026 15:09

Cannybeme · 28/06/2026 12:12

But still OP found this animal in distress. Tried to contact the owner with no luck. Poor animal would have been waiting all day with no water in a mucky stall.

Yes, but if you would care to read my comment you have replied to my point was the owner didn’t leave the horse in the stable. Someone else did that. As far as the owner was aware the horse was just out in a field, like horses do. I understand OP found him in a situation but the owner didn’t cause it.

Zoonosis · 28/06/2026 15:05

somanychristmaslights · 28/06/2026 14:59

Oh my god, calm down 😂. The op is saying it in a lighthearted way.

Good on the manager @Balloonheartsfor sending that text. The owner is just probably feeling massively embarrassed that everyone knows she’s been a crap owner. You all absolutely did the right thing. I remember riding as a teenager in the summer and the stables were like an oven!! He was clearly distressed. Just ignore the silly cow now and hopefully the manager will deal with any more issues.

The OP admitted on a previous one of her "lighthearted" threads about stable life that she once spent a entire ride beating the horse she was leading around the face with a riding crop, so I wouldn't assume a) that she's joking or b) that she's quite the expert on horse behaviour and welfare that she presents herself as here.

TheRoseBear · 28/06/2026 15:00

I know nothing about horses or stables but if I were following the Whatsapp group you mention, I think it would be crystal clear what had actually happened, although maybe not how long the horse had been left. Hopefully, the stable has a plan to monitor poor Dom and the care he is given for the next few months to ensure he is being looked after.

somanychristmaslights · 28/06/2026 14:59

Zoonosis · 28/06/2026 14:41

JFC, no, horses aren't prone to injury because they are "dumb" or "sillyfuckers" but because they are flighty prey animals that are overwhelmingly kept by humans in conditions that are unnatural and stressful for them and used for leisure activities that carry an injury risk.

What is it with "horsey" people constantly talking like they hate horses and don't understand the first thing about them under the mistaken impression it makes them sound cool and knowledgeable.

Oh my god, calm down 😂. The op is saying it in a lighthearted way.

Good on the manager @Balloonheartsfor sending that text. The owner is just probably feeling massively embarrassed that everyone knows she’s been a crap owner. You all absolutely did the right thing. I remember riding as a teenager in the summer and the stables were like an oven!! He was clearly distressed. Just ignore the silly cow now and hopefully the manager will deal with any more issues.

Tableforjoan · 28/06/2026 14:54

Thing is regardless of the rights or wrongs of the lady who put him in the owners or someone arranged by her is meant to visit twice a day.

She didn’t and didn’t notify anyone.

Some horses are ok to be left alone over night turned out many or rather most won’t like that.

The owner failed in the most basic way. A simple text could have solved all the issues. Also his stable wouldn’t be that dirty from one night. So she clearly didn’t muck out the day she turned him out either.

Jennalong · 28/06/2026 14:51

I'm not a horsey person ( never even been in a saddle ) but I think you did,the right thing .
Surely a horses well being is paramount and to be left with no water or food and mucky is not good horse management .
She is angry because she knows she was in the wrong and it was all to see in the group chat .
I'm glad the owner of the place has backed you up . Hold your head up high .

MrsKeats · 28/06/2026 14:48

Well done op. Thank goodness you noticed! Ungrateful cow. Not fit to own a horse.

Balloonhearts · 28/06/2026 14:42

Zoonosis · 28/06/2026 14:18

Also isn't it rather outing to include verbatim the entire message to the group chat?

Meh, she's telling everyone she's ever met anyway.

With regards to the kids, they come and go when they want, do as much or little as they want. Some come late, some stay all day.

The only thing we enforce is suncream and at least one break with water that does not come from a hose.

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Zoonosis · 28/06/2026 14:41

Balloonhearts · 28/06/2026 14:31

Prone to sillyfuckery is horses all over. Google stupid horse injuries. They do dumb shit, eat dumb shit, try to jump over dumb shit. A horses mission in life is to kill itself as creatively as it possibly can.

JFC, no, horses aren't prone to injury because they are "dumb" or "sillyfuckers" but because they are flighty prey animals that are overwhelmingly kept by humans in conditions that are unnatural and stressful for them and used for leisure activities that carry an injury risk.

What is it with "horsey" people constantly talking like they hate horses and don't understand the first thing about them under the mistaken impression it makes them sound cool and knowledgeable.

Balloonhearts · 28/06/2026 14:31

TheRestIsEntertsinent · 28/06/2026 13:38

"Barn rats" and "prone to sillyfuckery" are the kind of views that really put me off the horsey set.

Prone to sillyfuckery is horses all over. Google stupid horse injuries. They do dumb shit, eat dumb shit, try to jump over dumb shit. A horses mission in life is to kill itself as creatively as it possibly can.

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Zoonosis · 28/06/2026 14:18

Also isn't it rather outing to include verbatim the entire message to the group chat?

Crumpetring · 28/06/2026 14:17

Balloonhearts · 28/06/2026 14:08

Yard owner has shut down the drama on the group chat. Sent the message

" @Karen Please stop creating drama in the group. The situation was of your making. You have not ever failed to see to Dom before and when you had been absent for 2 visits in a row, had not arranged care for him, and did not respond to messages from myself and Balloons, we were, understandably, very concerned for your wellbeing, which is why Balloons messaged the group looking for you.

I'm sorry you are unhappy with his fieldmates but he was quite content with them and came to no harm. We always consider compatibility of horses when turning out and he was placed with a docile group. As you well know, we do not carry haylage. We gave Dom as close as possible to his normal ration, from what we had.

I will reiterate that all DIY liveries MUST attend their horses a minimum of twice per day or arrange alternative care where necessary. Emergency care from my staff will be chargeable and abuse of staff or volunteers will not be tolerated.

I will be at the yard until 9pm, if you have any further concerns, please address them with me directly.

I do not appreciate gossip and drama in my yard and this is the last I want to hear of it."

I'm glad I didn't rise to it now, think I've kept the higher ground.

I’m so glad the owner has backed you OP and shut the drama down, you did absolutely nothing wrong.

Zoonosis · 28/06/2026 14:16

Allthegoodhorses · 28/06/2026 14:06

Playing devils advocate with no knowledge. Most horses can not be left out in a field if the rest of the herd is in. Even if they don't share a field with horses. If I bring my horse in from her field I then have to bring the neighbouring horse in from her field as she gets extremely distressed being out there alone. This includes cantering around neighing her head off, which in the heat of last week is not a great look. Also we do not know if the field had any shade and again with the heat of last week most horses would be stabled to get some respite during the day.

OP has said this regarding the heat in the fields verses the stables: "The side fields are shaded and have a stream running through the back. The stables are like an oven atm, the heat hits you as you walk in. They're better off out."

Obviously the bulk of the problems OP describes here - no food, no water, left in their own mess, left in a hot stable - happened because the horse was brought in by another yard user; Karen wasn't to know someone had moved him in or that he was left in this state for nearly half of the following day.

Loulou4022 · 28/06/2026 14:15

Balloonhearts · 28/06/2026 11:25

She just said that something important had come up, she had to be with her daughter and it wasn't like no one was here. Daughter is 17 and they are a 2 parent family, so why one of them couldn't have come to look after Dom, god knows. Or at least text us.

Someone on the chat would have helped with him or failing that, she could have paid for 1 days emergency full livery which would have cost her £38. That covers the staff member caring for him and his food/hay/bedding top up.7

Edited

Her daughter is no excuse! He’s a living breathing animal and sounds like there is a chat where she could have just messaged to ask someone to feed and water him! Shocking behaviour!

CurtsyFriends · 28/06/2026 14:14

Sounds like the yard owner has sent a very appropriate message. Well done to them!

Loulou4022 · 28/06/2026 14:10

Sounds like the kids who noticed he was distressed have more care annd attention than the fecker who left him without food and water!
yanbu!! She should have been so bloody grateful!

Balloonhearts · 28/06/2026 14:08

Yard owner has shut down the drama on the group chat. Sent the message

" @Karen Please stop creating drama in the group. The situation was of your making. You have not ever failed to see to Dom before and when you had been absent for 2 visits in a row, had not arranged care for him, and did not respond to messages from myself and Balloons, we were, understandably, very concerned for your wellbeing, which is why Balloons messaged the group looking for you.

I'm sorry you are unhappy with his fieldmates but he was quite content with them and came to no harm. We always consider compatibility of horses when turning out and he was placed with a docile group. As you well know, we do not carry haylage. We gave Dom as close as possible to his normal ration, from what we had.

I will reiterate that all DIY liveries MUST attend their horses a minimum of twice per day or arrange alternative care where necessary. Emergency care from my staff will be chargeable and abuse of staff or volunteers will not be tolerated.

I will be at the yard until 9pm, if you have any further concerns, please address them with me directly.

I do not appreciate gossip and drama in my yard and this is the last I want to hear of it."

I'm glad I didn't rise to it now, think I've kept the higher ground.

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Allthegoodhorses · 28/06/2026 14:06

Teeed · 28/06/2026 11:33

I see this slightly differently, perhaps.

Someone else brought the horse in which is the reason he was not fed or watered. Playing devils advocate, had he been left on the field where Karen thought he was, he would not have been without?

Playing devils advocate with no knowledge. Most horses can not be left out in a field if the rest of the herd is in. Even if they don't share a field with horses. If I bring my horse in from her field I then have to bring the neighbouring horse in from her field as she gets extremely distressed being out there alone. This includes cantering around neighing her head off, which in the heat of last week is not a great look. Also we do not know if the field had any shade and again with the heat of last week most horses would be stabled to get some respite during the day.

Allthegoodhorses · 28/06/2026 14:02

PrincessofWills · 28/06/2026 11:37

The horse should have been left out in the field. People interfering is what has caused the whole situation.

Im assuming you don't know anything about horses. Most horses get extremely distressed if left out when every other horse is brought in from the field. When I go to do my horse in the morning on a solely DIY yard I normally have to bring my neighbouring field horse in too as she gets upset being left by herself which causes far more issues than just simply grabbing her in. Also we do not know if the field had shade and in the heat of last week most horses would have been better off in a covered stable.