To think we need to start talking about the lack of jobs?

There is no such thing as a high wage for a stable hand. Working with horses is slave labour and dangerous as well

Doing voluntary work is also valuable, either aligned to the field you want to work in, or actually, just any voluntary work. It shows commitment, reliability, gives lots of other skills (especially if in retail, as it helps customer skills etc). My daughter worked practically full time as a volunteer in a charity shop whilst looking for a retail job, and within a handful of months she got a paid job. She really enjoyed it too, and felt it was worthwhile on all sorts of levels. We may say that young people shouldn't have to jump through such hoops, but it gave her an edge and confidence over other people.

@TamTam5 not entitled but I think Asians just go with the flow more. People here naturally know their rights and rightly demand it. From my experience, unless they desperately want you, they will move on and get someone else who goes along with things.

Its certainly cheaper in India but depends on the role. In my company the accounts are all done abroad by established companies then we review it here. They couldnt do what we do here. But in the next few weeks, 2/3 junior staff roles will go, that's over 200 heads.

If it wasn't for him having put his house on the line and worked his guts out for ten years there would be another 7 high paying jobs missing from the economy.

You got slaughtered because your post doesn't make sense.

WFH doesn't prove anything like that at all.

Working in an office in the UK doesn't prove the work needs to be done in the UK.

As your friend demonstrates. He's not employing workers in the Philippines because he can't get people to work in an office in the UK because people want to WFH, he's doing it because it doesn't have to be done in the UK and is cheaper as you just said. He cares about profits and cheap labour and not the UK or its workers.

WFH has nothing to do with it. It's a complete red herring.

You can run a business without being awful and pulling up the ladder behind you
As I say, I hope he gets absolutely smashed with taxes.
it’s not employing the best people for the job he’s employing the cheapest

It is always easier to get a new job when you have a job already, if you see what I mean.

AI and robotics are still babies who are learning to crawl, but the rate of advancement is startling.

The Chinese have announced the opening date in 2027 of a hotel which is going to be staffed entirely by robots. They already use robot baristas and have robot guards at border points.

Fighting AI and robotics is as pointless s it was when static robots were introduced into car manufacturing plants. Companies that didn't do it went bust. The fight needs to be to get universal basic income of a really decent level established as early as possible.

It will happen at some point, companies cannot survive without consumers being able to buy their goods. The interim period looks a bit apocalyptic though 😢

I also think we need to acknowledge why this is needed - I honestly think a lot, not all, but a lot of young British people these days don’t want to do jobs such as care etc, a lot of them feel they deserve more without the experience and these jobs are below them.

I didn’t want to do a care job 20 yrs ago as a grad & I wouldn’t want to do one now. Why would I? The pay is crap, little job progression so how would I ever be able to pay a mortgage & have dc?

Our term finished a week ago
Do you mean last summer?

In the IT industry work is often outsourced to India simply because it’s cheaper. I think it’s unfair to say UK workers are entitled and not as hard working which is basically what some are saying on here, in the same way you often hear the IT industry say Indian workers don’t have the same level of critical thinking as UK trained staff.

What a stupid response. He’s a businessman not a charity. He is choosing a successful business model by taking the best people for the jobs.

You're misrepresenting that figure.

That was a survey by the BMA ( a trade union) conducted over a week in July 2025 where around 4 thousand Drs were asked if they had substantive employment or regular locum work from August that year. Only around 1k responded and just over 30% said they did not, and of the Drs at the end of FY2, the number was 52%. That's Drs completing their foundation training.

It didn't identify reasons for not having planned work from August in that figure.

A few hundred Drs responding to a trade union survey about whether or not they have work from the following month without the survey explaining why does not equal the statement '52% of graduate Drs unable to get work'.

On another forum after COVID I got slaughtered for pointing out that if people insisted on working from home they just prove that their jobs can be done by the cheapest person anywhere in the world.

A company can do this & do so regardless if staff wfh or not.

Id agree here, however as an Asian myself, we also dont kick up much of a fuss so possibly stay at a certain level/safe and dependable. Which is what companies want these days. If you feel you want more/deserve more, companies unfortunately will pick somebody else.

I think it’s obvious when you look around. In my supermarkets the staff are middle aged or older, when I was younger lots of my friends did a weekend job in the supermarket.

Restaurants - again lots of young waiters when I was a teen, now they are older. Same for bar work etc

Well, he is not a good person
I hope he doesn’t have children and I hope he gets absolutely taxed to high heaven for it

What do you mean there are no supermarket jobs? How do they fill positions when current staff leave or retire?

On another forum after COVID I got slaughtered for pointing out that if people insisted on working from home they just prove that their jobs can be done by the cheapest person anywhere in the world.

I have a friend who used to employ 22 and now employs 7. The rest of the work is being done by technical wizards in the Philippines who he pays a very, very good salary for the Philippines but half the UK cost, and the rest by AI.

You literally need to fight against it. There are people out there that are taking jobs educating the AI to take more of our young people’s jobs. We need to stand up against that use the checkout with a person on it even if it’s inconvenient for a few minutes.
Hang up if AI calls you to discuss your bill if we all do it they won’t implement it and they won’t fuck your young people over
But it is the only way
AI is rubbish. It makes mistakes critical mistakes so currently it should not be replacing any of us if it is that’s worrying.
But we’ve got no incentive to train the damn thing

Or they'll tell you they want to work x hours a week but can only do that between 6am and 4pm on a Monday, 12pm and 8pm on Tuesdays with a 6am-11am Sunday. Hours that they know literally no one will employ them for.

Those service roles you mention used to be completely done by easter Europeans but after Brexit, there's no one to do these. Indian people coming over here are coming for education and work and are doing these.

In terms of outsourcing, its much cheaper. We are due to cut 2/3 of finance in the next few weeks with all jobs moving to India. For the cost of 1, you get three people there, usually more efficient too.

I think the lack of jobs is a separate issue to race. Its AI and the economy generally bringing us to our knees. There are roles but we are trying to keep recruitment internally or its about who you know. Whereas before we could have just used LinkedIn or recruiters.

i think it depends where you live, but available jobs are changing. Local supermarkets dont need as much staff, and pubs aren’t as busy. BUT, where I live there are tons of jobs for young people in local independent cafes and shops. But, to be fair I live in a touristy area where the high street is busy and vibrant.
I still think good jobs for young people are cafe work, life saver (swimming) or general leisure centre, personal trainer, beauty and supporting trades people.
Getting ‘career’ jobs have ALWAYS been hard. Let’s not pretend graduates weren’t applying for 100s of jobs 20 years ago…. They were. Universities are also always behind the job market. AI will massively change accounting, IT and finance. Now, more than ever, the thing that will make you employable is communication, team work and problem solving. I’m not saying it’s not hard…but it has always been hard.
As an aside, the last 2 young trainees have been terrible. Wanting to WFH all the time. Showing up late. Both had endless mental health (stress) problems so couldn’t do XYZ. We then employed an older woman part time and she’s absolutely amazing. It’s a job in the arts.

Indian people tend to have a much better work ethos than young white people.

Agree not all UK degrees are unaligned with industry - but many are. Software developers for example seem to be coming out of uni skilled in the world as it was 5 years ago rather than it is today.