AIBU to raise concerns after school let father-in-law apply suncream when not an approved collector?

The lack of awareness around safeguarding in this post is staggering.

It does not matter if he applied it with another adult present. School did not know if parents had granted any contact with this man.

It does not matter if the children knew who he was. School did not know if parents had granted any contact with this man.

It does not matter if he said Mum sent him. School did not know if parents had granted any contact with this man.

It does not matter if school didn't have a picture of a note saying 'no contact' with this man. School did not know if parents had granted any contact with this man.

That's it. That's all that matters.

School should not be granting any contact, regardless of the type, with any people that walk in off the street, that haven't been approved by the parents. It's that simple.

Cant rely on that. For every photo of a forbidden person, there is a friend or relative of theirs who can sound convincingly like ‘gran’ or ‘granddad’.

Right. They're in breach of their safeguarding training.

I think the office staff retrieved her and took her to the office.

He shouldn't have got past the reception area. Whoever allowed this will be disciplined. It's very serious.

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I imagine another adult was present when he was applying it.

I get your point to some extent but think you are over reacting as you were the one that sent the GP to the school.
You wanted your child have sunscreen in this really hot weather and as the office said the GP couldn’t leave it, they instead allowed him to apply it. So you got what you wanted which is your child has sun protection. The alternative would’ve been he came back with the sun lotion and I’m guessing you would be complaining about the school being unreasonable and your child spending the whole day without sun protection. Clearly a mistake. Put the GP on the list if you plan to send them for anything school related.

If she got sun burnt because she was not allowed the suncream, I'm sure you would be annoyed with the school too.
Your post suggests that they let a random older man take a child from their classroom and apply suncream, but I'm sure that is not the case.
If it is the case then I would be more worried about that than your hypothetical question

Office staff have a list and sometimes photos when there are situations like this.

I didn’t complain I just said to her teacher I was surprised by it.

Assuming that you’re British, surely you are aware that ‘being surprised’ is the equivalent of being absolutely outraged…

But the point is, school don’t know she sent him!

what if Grandpa wasn’t allowed to see the children, and thought to himself ‘this is a clever work around. I’ll go to school and say the mum sent me.’

@Tryingtohelp12 I will give my head a wobble as suggested and blame the sun - I’m in general a very relaxed person

No, don’t give your head a wobble please! Tell school that this happened and they need to change their procedures or tighten them up or whatever. Imagine if Ofsted were there watching this happen!

So… you asked for a favour, then you made it in to a crime scene? Christ on a bike

Then with all due respect, it’s a good job you don’t work in a school then……

No adult would be allowed to "retrieve" a child from any classroom in any school. Visitors, including parents, can't get further than a reception area.
How did they know what to put on his lanyard?

oh come on it’s not as if he dragged her off to a private room to do it. I assume they were stood in the open by reception with plenty of witnesses. The school can’t win in this situation, if they’d denied him putting sun cream on her and sent him away you’d also be complaining, next time take it yourself if you’re going to moan

i agree with you OP - it’s very clear on this thread those posters who have had safeguarding training and those who haven’t!

Regardless of a child’s age/ability to recognise and name an adult, no childcare/education setting should be allowing access to any adult who does not have express permission from the parent/carer of the child in question.

As PPs have suggested, parent/carers could be NC for a myriad of reasons not known to a child who just sees ‘Grandad’ coming in to the setting. And yes - that means a phone call etc to the parent/carer every time someone not on the approved list appears!

Yup.. what’s the problem?

This.
Schools have to be watertight with safeguarding practices. OP is doing them a favour flagging this up.

Sorry but you're being ridiculous. If I worked in a school, I would assume that if the mum sent in a grandparent with suncream that they can be trusted to apply it!
If your child came home with sunburn you'd be complaining about that too..

Not only schools can't do right for doing wrong, in-laws also seem to be in the same group!
Our granddaughter once flew down to us as a UM and we were to collect her from the airport, taking various IDs to show who we were. As she walked through with her escort, her face burst into a smile, she called to us Grandma, Grandad, the escort said Well you're clearly the right people but I suppose I should look at you IDs! I'm sure common sense can be allowed, the child would probably have asked a stranger who he was or told an adult, children are very savvy these days.

agreed but I think OP also muddled things here (dont know if she called sch to say so and so is coming). @Tryingtohelp12 next time be aware. Dont send people not on the list because the sch has obviously got confused here (by you sending him they assumed you are approving contact/he is trusted which is not entirely the case though you say you do. And you obviously dont trust the sch's safeguarding either).

As to your concern that you overreacted, not necessarily. Of course they will look into it as they should any safeguarding concern a parent/guardian raises. Did you expect them not to act on their mistake? That would have been worse and your post on that would have been worse as well. So its good they will (hopefully) be fixing gaps in their procedures. @Tryingtohelp12 what did you expect them to do after you reported btw?

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imagine your child was more than able to confirm its grandad as she’s old enough to apply her own suncream?