AIBU to be confused about how teachers' salaries are paid?

High salary 😂😂😂😂 you've never taught.

Hi I'm in Scotland and the salary is £55k after your first 5 years. Classroom teacher. I do feel it's a good salary. I want to say we get the same holidays 5 weeks plus bank holidays as other LA workers (paid) then the rest is unpaid and the salary is split over 12 months so you are paid the same every month even if off for 6 weeks.

Is that what she means?

I think one of the problems is people look from the outside and think teachers get a good deal and use holiday to suggest teachers are well paid for what they do.

I am paid less now than when I was a teacher and have less holiday. Yet I wouldn’t return to teaching because the workload and stress for the pay is absolutely not worth it! It’s hard to explain the intensity of it and I’ve worked in the city and in other jobs considered ‘high stress’. Ultimately teachers have voted with their feet and half of qualified teachers are not teaching a decade later.

Does it make a difference when looking at holiday pay if you leave? If everything stays the same then the legal holiday entitlement you get (per law) and the pay you get makes no difference. Interestingly, support staff salaries are shown differently when advertised. So will show full pay and then if you only work term time you will get that pro rata, for example if you are a TA. If you work in finance you may work all year and then only have statutory holiday time off

It's ridiculous and something the unions keep banging on about when they are arguing for a payrise. It does them no favours as it's just so silly.

Teachers' salaries are set at an annual rate and they are paid the same amount every month. All the stuff about not getting paid for holidays or whatever is by the by, all teachers in Scotland will be getting their salary at the end of July even though many schools closed yesterday, just as teachers in England will be getting their salary in August.

No because you'll be getting c. 80% of a full time salary split over 12 payments. Teachers get the full salary.

Yes. Some teachers love to argue they're not paid for holidays but on a pro rata basis they'd be very well paid indeed, and they also like to argue they're badly paid 🤣

I am one btw, but also recognise pay is pretty good. It's not poor pay that means people are leaving.

Yes, really it's just a high salary per weeks worked pro rata'ed down to be paid across 52 weeks. (So £39k pro rata for 40 weeks' work, paid across non-working time as well, working out at £30k p/a). Teachers' pay is quite good, considering the weeks worked aspect.

In Scotland its calculated into teaching days/inset days/holidays (I think like 30 or 40 days) and school closure days but the pay is spread over 12 months. So your salary is made up from 190 teaching days, 5 inservice days, 40 days "holiday" and the rest of the time is unpaid school closure days. You accrue holiday at like 0.2 days a week or something.
In practice it doesn't really affect anyone except with things like maternity leave where you can't accrue 13 weeks holiday, just the amount you would have accrued for the number of teaching days. Not sure I've explained that any clearer 😂

Teachers are paid for 195 days across the year-190 teaching days and 5 training days. They are paid their salary split into 12 equal monthly payments.

Teachers get paid their salary (so £30k in your example) spread over 12 months, however they are only getting paid to work in term-time, but their salary is chunked into equal pay packets throughout the year.
So teachers don't get paid "for" the holidays, but they do get some of their (term-time) salary paid "in" the holidays.

Imagine you didn't work in December, but agreed with your employer that instead of not getting paid in December you would take a reduction in pay year-round.

I work in a school and really should know this but don’t. I work as admin, I only get paid for 38weeks of the year and my holiday entitlement is rolled into my annual pay and split over 12. This way I still get paid when it’s the holidays and makes it easier to budget. I’d assume teachers are similar paid to support staff.

Former teacher and headteacher here. Some teachers and unions argue they're not paid for holidays, simply because if they have pay docked (for strikes, for example) they're docked 1/195 of their salary - based on the days they must be in school.

I always argued it was a salary, so I was paid in the holidays.