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AIBU to ask my child to do prep for 11+ entrance papers and homework?

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Pigwig22 · 25/06/2026 17:16

Sort fof looking for advice but posting with AIBU for visibility.

My nine yo is dyslexic, and can struggle with school work. She generally gets there, but we have to take a bit longer to embed the knowledge. She particularly struggles with tests and has very low self esteem when it comes to school work.

We have found some private schools we would really like to send her to as we feel they would be the best environment and support for her, and have the means to do it.

They are not super selective, but they still have tests and an interview. The only one I have found with no test, we would have to move to send her to as we are not on the bus network and that presents several challenges.

She was asking me about the schools and I explained there are tests and an interview so we should do some prep for them, but they are not like the grammar tests. She flipped out about it.

She got very upset, said she can't do them, that she is worried she won't get in. Complete meltdown. We said it doesn't matter, if you don't get in it won't be the right school for you.

But we do really believe these are the right schools for her and we really do need her to sit them with the right attitude and to try her best. I would like to do soft prep, not talking major tutoring, but 2-3 half hour practice sessions a week on Atom or something.

She also frankly needs to be doing this amount of homework to keep up at school and I don't want her to fall too far behind.

But I worry the more I push her the more she fights it and her self esteem seems to take a battering.

She goes to a compeitive, test focused school where 70% of the kids will go to top grammars and they have high levels of greater depth across KS2 sats. We don't actually live in a grammar area, but next door so these kids really do get high marks. They are also all hyper aware so lots of comparison at school between results and some of the kids are quite mean to her about her results.

So, the second part of my question is, should we take her out of this high pressured environment and put her in the private school earlier (she still needs to do test and interview, but no other children will be doing it so less competition I guess). She does not want this as she wants to stay at school with her friends.

Any tips on how I can foster a more healthy approach and attitude to homework and tests and help her self esteem? I should add she is brilliant at other things including art, sport and non verbal reasoning. But she still always fixates on how she thinks she is still not the best at these...

I have bought her journals, spoken about how everyone has things they find hard and easier, spoken to her teacher about the way tests and results are handled in school and focused on her effort rather than her score when she does do well.

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KathrynInclusion · 30/06/2026 11:18

I think there is a slightly different issue underneath the prep question.

In my SEND/inclusion and specialist literacy work, I’ve seen this quite often with dyslexic pupils. If a child has had repeated experiences of being slower, being compared, getting visible marks back, or feeling exposed by tests, then “test” can start to mean “here comes another moment where I feel behind”.

That does not mean no preparation. It means the preparation has to rebuild safety as well as skill.

I’d avoid starting with Atom as “test prep” if she is already panicking. I’d start with 5–10 minutes, one question type, no scores at first, no timed element, and stop while it is still going well. The aim is familiarity, not performance.

I’d also separate entrance familiarisation from dyslexia support and from normal homework. If it all becomes one big project of “fixing school”, it may feel huge to her.

I would frame it as: “We are helping your brain recognise the types of questions so they feel less surprising on the day,” rather than “you need to practise to get in.”

From what you have said about visible marks and peer comparison, I can completely understand why her confidence has taken a hit. The aim is not to avoid challenge forever; it is to make challenge feel survivable again.

Pigwig22 · 27/06/2026 08:05

LittleBearPad · 26/06/2026 19:52

OP I’d seriously consider moving her now.

I assume you’re in Kent given the schools you mention. Your primary will be obsessed with the Kent test plus SATs. Both of which are meaningless for a private school. Year 6 could be a SATs route march that won’t help her confidence.

We are!

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Pigwig22 · 27/06/2026 08:05

independentfriend · 26/06/2026 17:45

No. Mainstream independent schools are often terrible at SEN. There is no evidence to support the idea that smaller classes are better for dyslexia (there is for children with some other sorts of needs). It makes sense - smaller class, more time with the teacher, but it isn't supported by evidence.

Do have a look at CResTeD for their list of schools with a specialisation in dyslexia - many are independent schools offering withdrawal classes for English / maths, others offer different models of support.

If you're going to go for a school not on the CResTeD site, ask them questions - how many dyslexic children have been asked to leave in the last five years? What adjustments are made in mainstream lessons? Do any of the teaching / support staff have Level 5 / 7 qualifications in Dyslexia? How many pupils had access arrangements for the summer exams? Do they have any support from an Educational Psychologist ora teacher with additional qualifications in teaching dyslexic pupils?

I’ve asked these types of questions to the schools we’ve selected and am happy the answers suit my DD.

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KateSixer · 26/06/2026 22:48

First, you don't ask a child. You tell them.

Second, you approach it with subtlety, so the issue is not polarised and it's natural. Don't set it out as a goal. That is an adult's way of thinking.

Every child is capable of understanding they have to work to achieve things though. Perhaps if you are looking at private schools the sports options might act as an incentive.

jetlag92 · 26/06/2026 22:35

SadFaceEmoji · 26/06/2026 07:00

We have the funds to send our DC to private school, we chose not to. She’s not the right personality for it. She not the right academic ability for it. We as a family probably wouldn’t ‘fit in’.

Even with a secondary in special measures you can supplement learning outside of school. Where are her friends going? Where does she want to go?

There are many, many private schools which cater for lots of varying needs - it's not possible for her to not be the right personality for all of them.

@Pigwig22 if you can afford it and they're all through schools, just move her now.

CalmTheFuckDownMargaret · 26/06/2026 22:18

How about framing it as a ‘familiarisation’ paper? Tell her that the school will use it to see what she already knows and what they need to teach her. They’ll look at the work of everyone who completes it and use it to establish what to teach in year 7. Tell her that’s different to having a pass or fail mark, so she should do her best to show them what she knows but not worry too much about any gaps in her knowledge as they won’t mind.

LittleBearPad · 26/06/2026 19:52

Pigwig22 · 26/06/2026 11:21

100% agree not every / most private schools wouldn't be better - no way I would send her to the one I went to. But that is why we have done our research.

My experience of state is exactly what you describe. Just more spelling and more reading, no adjustments or different appraoches whatsoever but also high pressure.

The problem for my DD at the moment is her primary school is a hot house and it doesn't cater for her needs. Most of the kids there are being heavily tutored for 11+, 70% on average to to grammar from the school and the kids are hyper aware of exam results and where everyone in the class sits. And, frankly, kids can be mean.

The school is slowly destroying her confidence. The get other children to hand back exam papers within the classroom, marks visible on front, and then tell the kids what their result means in terms of what they would get in their KS2 SATs in an open classroom. I have complained, but I'm fighting a tide of pushy parents who are desperate for this knowledge and frankly a school that only cares about it's rankings.

This is why I have looked long and hard at the best places for her next. Places that are more well rounded.

I have spoken to the schools we like at length and I'm happy with their approaches.

OP I’d seriously consider moving her now.

I assume you’re in Kent given the schools you mention. Your primary will be obsessed with the Kent test plus SATs. Both of which are meaningless for a private school. Year 6 could be a SATs route march that won’t help her confidence.

Wishesandhorses · 26/06/2026 17:57

Wonder if an executive function skills coach might be useful OP? Someone to look with her at what makes her so anxious about the prep and to help her work out what strategies fit her best to get her confidence up.

independentfriend · 26/06/2026 17:45

Pigwig22 · 26/06/2026 06:12

It’s in special measures.

There is one other that last 2 years we would have been in catchment, but now will likely fall out of catchment as they are cutting a form group.

But being frank, I want to go private as a state education cannot provide the same level of support as a private school for a dyslexic child when you consider the funding and class size differences.

There is also all the added benefits of the extra curricular offer that will suit my DD.

No. Mainstream independent schools are often terrible at SEN. There is no evidence to support the idea that smaller classes are better for dyslexia (there is for children with some other sorts of needs). It makes sense - smaller class, more time with the teacher, but it isn't supported by evidence.

Do have a look at CResTeD for their list of schools with a specialisation in dyslexia - many are independent schools offering withdrawal classes for English / maths, others offer different models of support.

If you're going to go for a school not on the CResTeD site, ask them questions - how many dyslexic children have been asked to leave in the last five years? What adjustments are made in mainstream lessons? Do any of the teaching / support staff have Level 5 / 7 qualifications in Dyslexia? How many pupils had access arrangements for the summer exams? Do they have any support from an Educational Psychologist ora teacher with additional qualifications in teaching dyslexic pupils?

Pigwig22 · 26/06/2026 11:21

Lacksplease · 26/06/2026 11:01

Be careful.
Private does not equal better for dyslexic children. It needs to have excellent sen support and the ability to teach in different ways. You will also most likely still need to tutor on top of private school so factor that cost in. I have posted many times before of our experience. 9 yr old dyslexic ADHD twice exceptional girl. Very similar to how you described your child and at a similar state school now. She's much further behind and at least part of that is due to going to a private school who blinded us to the true extent of disability and also told us they were supporting her and she was within normal remit when she wasn't. 'Extra spelling and reading ' does not help with a dyslexic child if it's still being taught the same way. We ended up with a child who was super anxious and starting down a depressive route.
Despite not being anywhere near the top of the class she's much much happier being somewhere that works around her needs and doesn't care that she can't spell etc.
I would take the pressure right off now and give her brain time to develop more. Dyslexic kids start to suddenly catch up age 14 or so - that's the time to focus.
We all want the best for our kids but that doesn't always mean grammar or private is it. Make sure you take her head out of the rat race - so what if you don't get the grade you want. Just sit it again. The best adults I know in high powered jobs are the ones who failed and took a different route. You can spot the grammar school hot housed kids from a mile off and they always want 'extra time extra feedback extra hand holding'. It's exhausting.

100% agree not every / most private schools wouldn't be better - no way I would send her to the one I went to. But that is why we have done our research.

My experience of state is exactly what you describe. Just more spelling and more reading, no adjustments or different appraoches whatsoever but also high pressure.

The problem for my DD at the moment is her primary school is a hot house and it doesn't cater for her needs. Most of the kids there are being heavily tutored for 11+, 70% on average to to grammar from the school and the kids are hyper aware of exam results and where everyone in the class sits. And, frankly, kids can be mean.

The school is slowly destroying her confidence. The get other children to hand back exam papers within the classroom, marks visible on front, and then tell the kids what their result means in terms of what they would get in their KS2 SATs in an open classroom. I have complained, but I'm fighting a tide of pushy parents who are desperate for this knowledge and frankly a school that only cares about it's rankings.

This is why I have looked long and hard at the best places for her next. Places that are more well rounded.

I have spoken to the schools we like at length and I'm happy with their approaches.

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jeaux90 · 26/06/2026 11:12

OP my DD with AuDHD had to get tested for a more specific private school. Just tell her it’s so they know her level and how best to integrate her when she joins. It takes the pressure off.

Lacksplease · 26/06/2026 11:12

Without being too outing it might be best to say which area you are in ? I am in Gloucestershire for example. So the grammar is super selective and the local schools don't look great on paper - 40% 4 and above for Maths and English and less in school activities etc however once you take into account that your child will most likely be in that 40% plus the excellent out of school activities and the fact the local area is very affluent then it's not bad at all. The grammar would be the worst choice for ours - the girls in her class are already hoity toity about prepping for grammar and she'd struggle once there due to little sen support. Better to be a medium fish in a smaller pond and then concentrate on flying high a little later.
In other areas posters might be able to give better advice.

Lacksplease · 26/06/2026 11:01

Be careful.
Private does not equal better for dyslexic children. It needs to have excellent sen support and the ability to teach in different ways. You will also most likely still need to tutor on top of private school so factor that cost in. I have posted many times before of our experience. 9 yr old dyslexic ADHD twice exceptional girl. Very similar to how you described your child and at a similar state school now. She's much further behind and at least part of that is due to going to a private school who blinded us to the true extent of disability and also told us they were supporting her and she was within normal remit when she wasn't. 'Extra spelling and reading ' does not help with a dyslexic child if it's still being taught the same way. We ended up with a child who was super anxious and starting down a depressive route.
Despite not being anywhere near the top of the class she's much much happier being somewhere that works around her needs and doesn't care that she can't spell etc.
I would take the pressure right off now and give her brain time to develop more. Dyslexic kids start to suddenly catch up age 14 or so - that's the time to focus.
We all want the best for our kids but that doesn't always mean grammar or private is it. Make sure you take her head out of the rat race - so what if you don't get the grade you want. Just sit it again. The best adults I know in high powered jobs are the ones who failed and took a different route. You can spot the grammar school hot housed kids from a mile off and they always want 'extra time extra feedback extra hand holding'. It's exhausting.

Pigwig22 · 26/06/2026 10:42

LauritaEvita · 26/06/2026 10:08

I feel sorry for this little girl. Viewing 30 schools, considering moving house and putting this much research into schools will be putting a hell of a lot of pressure on her. No wonder she panics at the thought of sitting exams. She is probably pre empting your disappointment. I would seriously consider how much all this is affecting her childhood.

Obviously we have not involved her in all of that!! That would be mental.

We viewed the schools and went back with her to 3 of them - 2 private and 1 state that we might get into, but will probably be out of catchment for. She has picked one of the privates from those as her top choice and it has an exam and interview.

Based on the helpful responses here, I am basically thinking I will tell her what people have said above, it's not an exam to get in but so they can see what she knows - just like tests at primary school.

And then I guess just lie again if she doesn't pass...

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LauritaEvita · 26/06/2026 10:08

I feel sorry for this little girl. Viewing 30 schools, considering moving house and putting this much research into schools will be putting a hell of a lot of pressure on her. No wonder she panics at the thought of sitting exams. She is probably pre empting your disappointment. I would seriously consider how much all this is affecting her childhood.

Pigwig22 · 26/06/2026 09:18

WolfinSheepsDress · 26/06/2026 09:12

Look up selling rainbow mat and get one of those

We have one - the dyslexia tutor recommended it and uses it :)

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WolfinSheepsDress · 26/06/2026 09:12

Look up selling rainbow mat and get one of those

Dweetfidilove · 26/06/2026 09:10

Londonrach1 · 26/06/2026 06:20

You in my area. We can't afford private school and it's 11 plus or a secondary school that has a super head but no teachers and still using the temporary buildings put up 4 years ago as no one can physically still go into the school. That means no access to the gym, the kitchens, the design and technology rooms or any specific teaching rooms so all the staff left. They managing of temporary staff who understandable don't stay long. My child at present wouldn't pass 11 plus and we put of catchment to the other secondary school which can't take every single child in the town. I don't know what to do at the moment...move is the only option

This sounds absolutely dreadful! Is it even a school, with no staff or facilities?
I hope you manage to find a decent school for your child. What a worry 😟.

declutteredliving · 26/06/2026 09:08

Pigwig22 · 26/06/2026 06:16

The schools have told me they are selective and not everyone gets a place. I’m not sure how true that is… particularly with the VAT now.

I have told her it’s nothing like the grammar test, but I could tell a white lie to my DD and say it’s not to get in. Not sure what to say about the interview, which she freaked out about as well.

The interview was more like a chat to get to know my dd. She brought in a piece of work to show them (as requested), just so they had something to talk about really.

As long as your child speaks in her usual manner to them then she’ll be fine.

It’s just like chatting to any teacher at her school. It was 5 mins max.

Pigwig22 · 26/06/2026 08:59

WolfinSheepsDress · 26/06/2026 07:51

What are they using to help her spell?

It's not excessive as long as they are nice and she gets on with them.

The dyslexia tutor or school? School asbolutely zero. Other than in spelling, she meets expectations so they don't have the inclination to help, nor to be fair the resources or knowledge. Her class tutors have been great, but there are 30 kids in a class and some have more complex needs than my DD. It's a school of 840 pupils, 1 senco and no dyslexia specialsits. Probably why I'm disillusioned with the state system.

The tutor uses a range of methods, including movement and games, mnemonics and regular repeating / over learning of spelling rules. It definitely helps.

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WolfinSheepsDress · 26/06/2026 07:51

What are they using to help her spell?

It's not excessive as long as they are nice and she gets on with them.

Pigwig22 · 26/06/2026 07:48

WolfinSheepsDress · 26/06/2026 07:34

Can your DD read and spell properly ?

Back to the original question then as her dyslexia tutor is obviously irelavant...can you get her a tutor !

She can read to a good level and is an avid reader. Her spelling is best descried as creative!

We had considered two tutors but I think that is a bit OTT and I believe the dyslexic support is more important long-term. So I was going to use ATOM to support with the 11+ entry for now and review where we are before Xmas (so roughly a year away from the tests)

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Pigwig22 · 26/06/2026 07:46

user9764325677 · 26/06/2026 07:28

you have decided that your child, who is scared of tests, needs to take tests. It must sound to her as though you aren’t listening. Not all private schools are selective. You need to find one of them. Once her confidence builds, she’ll more easily be able to take tests. The poor girl must feel so unseen by you.

As mentioned, I’ve found one but we would need to move.

Unfortunately there is no getting round tests at school - she sits them constantly at primary school.

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MeinKraft · 26/06/2026 07:35

Pigwig22 · 26/06/2026 06:48

Our top choice said they will disregard spelling and give more time

So i think you need to talk to her about the tests and whether she thinks this is enough or whether she needs more support or if there is a particular aid that would help her to feel more confident about the test, and if she comes up with something then advocate on her behalf for her to be able to use it in the test.

WolfinSheepsDress · 26/06/2026 07:34

Can your DD read and spell properly ?

Back to the original question then as her dyslexia tutor is obviously irelavant...can you get her a tutor !