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To be fed up of hearing 'just get on with it'?

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glitterpaperchain · 24/06/2026 16:48

This kind of 'just get on with it' RE the heat is all over Facebook. People talking about the heat in 1976 and saying 'we just got on with it' or 'we muddled through' (as if people didn't die as a result of that heatwave)

My issue is - shouldn't we as a society be aiming higher than just getting on with things and muddling through? We should be campaigning for better infrastructure, better working practices.

I just think we have all this technology, we're supposed to be a rich country, let's fight to make things better rather than just managing. What happened to the spirit of the first union workers who demanded better conditions and rights? I want to see that spirit back.

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NoisyViewer · 24/06/2026 21:51

glitterpaperchain · 24/06/2026 21:45

How do you think the NHS is faring in a heatwave?

The same way they fare in the winter.

MasterBeth · 24/06/2026 21:50

NoisyViewer · 24/06/2026 21:44

Tbf we have no more than 10 days a year like this. The same in winter with the snow. It’s really is a waste of money to put infrastructure in place for every eventuality. If the government was to turn round now and suggest we had air con installed in all buildings etc I’d be really pissed off. We have a struggling nhs and just last week the defence secretary quit because we want spend money to protect the country in a time the world is in a very hostile state

Tbf we have no more than 10 days a year like this.

Tbf we have no more than 10 days a year like this now.

In order to make sure our economy continues to function, we have to make sure we don't lose more and more productivity to climate events.

Sheismycherrypie · 24/06/2026 21:50

glitterpaperchain · 24/06/2026 21:42

Ok now I'm sure you're wilfully missing the point.

The heat is one example. There are many areas of life where people have this attitude of just get on with it, muddle through.

I'm assuming from your continued suggestion of 'just buy an air conditioner' and your horror at the idea that the government actually gets involved with impacting people's lives, that you are a libertarian in favour of low-regulation capitalism?

And let me guess you’re one of those posters who think taxing billionaires will give us everything we want for free?

MasterBeth · 24/06/2026 21:48

Pansykavalier · 24/06/2026 21:40

the intensity of the heat we are experiencing now is worse, the frequency of the heat events is worse and the global situation is worse than 1976.

This is indeed true and extremely worrying - which is why we ought to focus resources on improving energy efficiency and generating renewable energy…… rather than rush out and install AC everywhere and consume yet more energy.

Energy is not problematic.

Fossil fuel energy is problematic.

As the nation gets hotter we will need more AC to be climate resilient. (We may need less heating.)

We need to power it with sustainable energy.

glitterpaperchain · 24/06/2026 21:45

NoisyViewer · 24/06/2026 21:44

Tbf we have no more than 10 days a year like this. The same in winter with the snow. It’s really is a waste of money to put infrastructure in place for every eventuality. If the government was to turn round now and suggest we had air con installed in all buildings etc I’d be really pissed off. We have a struggling nhs and just last week the defence secretary quit because we want spend money to protect the country in a time the world is in a very hostile state

How do you think the NHS is faring in a heatwave?

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NoisyViewer · 24/06/2026 21:44

glitterpaperchain · 24/06/2026 21:34

Why should we not continue to strive to make life better and better?

Tbf we have no more than 10 days a year like this. The same in winter with the snow. It’s really is a waste of money to put infrastructure in place for every eventuality. If the government was to turn round now and suggest we had air con installed in all buildings etc I’d be really pissed off. We have a struggling nhs and just last week the defence secretary quit because we want spend money to protect the country in a time the world is in a very hostile state

glitterpaperchain · 24/06/2026 21:42

DoesAnyoneRememberBoneyM · 24/06/2026 21:39

The UK is sinking because it is broke. Actually worse than that, it is in huge amounts of debt and with interest rates much higher than they ever were before.
We have problems coming out of our ears. We don't have enough defence, we don't have enough police, our schools are not working terribly well, our A&E is embarrassing. Our welfare bill is embarrassing. We have homelessness and we have continued immigration despite the above.

We are broke and needing to fix all of the above. Pretty sure in the event the UK can turn things around and grow the economy/pay down the debt, the above will be a higher priority than giving everyone a free airconditioner.

I mean seriously order one tonight from argos, pick it up first thing tomorrow, plug it in and spend tomorrow cool and relaxed. Really don't think we need 'collective action' to do that.

Sadly I am unable to offer any such quick fixes to the rest of the UK's problems.

So by all means improve your life but do it yourself and stop expecting 'the govt' or 'society' to do it for you.

Ok now I'm sure you're wilfully missing the point.

The heat is one example. There are many areas of life where people have this attitude of just get on with it, muddle through.

I'm assuming from your continued suggestion of 'just buy an air conditioner' and your horror at the idea that the government actually gets involved with impacting people's lives, that you are a libertarian in favour of low-regulation capitalism?

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SmashThePatriarchy · 24/06/2026 21:42

Well you’re not wrong but on a day-to-day basis we do need to get on with life. I’ve had a classroom of teenagers refusing to pick pens up because it was too hot. It was 24 degrees! We do need to get on with it.

Pansykavalier · 24/06/2026 21:40

the intensity of the heat we are experiencing now is worse, the frequency of the heat events is worse and the global situation is worse than 1976.

This is indeed true and extremely worrying - which is why we ought to focus resources on improving energy efficiency and generating renewable energy…… rather than rush out and install AC everywhere and consume yet more energy.

DoesAnyoneRememberBoneyM · 24/06/2026 21:39

glitterpaperchain · 24/06/2026 21:30

I really genuinely don't understand your perspective.

People died in a war, so no one can ever want to improve lives now?

"The UK is stinking" well yes that's kind of exactly my point. Why aren't we seeing collective action? This weather is just one example. As much as you try to minimise it, many people will die and be hospitalised. Babies and the elderly will suffer. What would motivate someone to ignore that, shrug their shoulders, and say 'stop moaning get on it with it'? Why would some rather do that than campaign to make that situation better?

The UK is sinking because it is broke. Actually worse than that, it is in huge amounts of debt and with interest rates much higher than they ever were before.
We have problems coming out of our ears. We don't have enough defence, we don't have enough police, our schools are not working terribly well, our A&E is embarrassing. Our welfare bill is embarrassing. We have homelessness and we have continued immigration despite the above.

We are broke and needing to fix all of the above. Pretty sure in the event the UK can turn things around and grow the economy/pay down the debt, the above will be a higher priority than giving everyone a free airconditioner.

I mean seriously order one tonight from argos, pick it up first thing tomorrow, plug it in and spend tomorrow cool and relaxed. Really don't think we need 'collective action' to do that.

Sadly I am unable to offer any such quick fixes to the rest of the UK's problems.

So by all means improve your life but do it yourself and stop expecting 'the govt' or 'society' to do it for you.

glitterpaperchain · 24/06/2026 21:39

Sheismycherrypie · 24/06/2026 21:34

Because that’s fantasy thinking. You haven’t yet answered; who funds the billions of pounds of change you want to see?

No it isn't.

Think about when the NHS was created. How many people must have said that creating national free healthcare was fantasy thinking.

Change takes ambition. Where's that gone? It's so sad. 'Making life better would be hard so let's not do it'

After WW2 we had many different taxes which redistributed wealth. This is how we paid for the NHS, social housing, and other initiatives that truly changed people's lives. Many of those taxes no longer exist, hence the huge increase in wealth disparity.

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MasterBeth · 24/06/2026 21:37

DoesAnyoneRememberBoneyM · 24/06/2026 21:31

I agree that on average it is getting hotter.
We also have portable air conditioners that are relatively cheap which we did not have in the seventies. Problem solved.

It's getting hotter. And will continue to get hotter. AC will keep your bedroom cool. What about everywhere else? Like... the outside?

glitterpaperchain · 24/06/2026 21:36

Sheismycherrypie · 24/06/2026 21:34

That poster was correct. We can stamp our feet and mobilise all we like but the country cannot afford the transformation you think we should demand. You can however make changes to your own life and property - I’ve just replaced our plastic grass with real, am replacing our car with one with air con, and am looking at air con units for the house (just a small one we can use in the room the kids sleep in).

Oh we can't afford it? Ah let's not do anything then. Shrug.

Or maybe we could work to find ways to afford things that will improve lives?

Seriously why are people so passive and so content with things when they could be better? A lack of ambition?

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Sheismycherrypie · 24/06/2026 21:34

glitterpaperchain · 24/06/2026 21:34

Why should we not continue to strive to make life better and better?

Because that’s fantasy thinking. You haven’t yet answered; who funds the billions of pounds of change you want to see?

glitterpaperchain · 24/06/2026 21:34

NoisyViewer · 24/06/2026 21:33

Of course you should just get on with it. We live in the easiest and most convenient of times. How easy do you want your life to be. A little resilience goes a long way. A little discomfort is actually very healthy.

Why should we not continue to strive to make life better and better?

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Sheismycherrypie · 24/06/2026 21:34

glitterpaperchain · 24/06/2026 21:30

I really genuinely don't understand your perspective.

People died in a war, so no one can ever want to improve lives now?

"The UK is stinking" well yes that's kind of exactly my point. Why aren't we seeing collective action? This weather is just one example. As much as you try to minimise it, many people will die and be hospitalised. Babies and the elderly will suffer. What would motivate someone to ignore that, shrug their shoulders, and say 'stop moaning get on it with it'? Why would some rather do that than campaign to make that situation better?

That poster was correct. We can stamp our feet and mobilise all we like but the country cannot afford the transformation you think we should demand. You can however make changes to your own life and property - I’ve just replaced our plastic grass with real, am replacing our car with one with air con, and am looking at air con units for the house (just a small one we can use in the room the kids sleep in).

NoisyViewer · 24/06/2026 21:33

Of course you should just get on with it. We live in the easiest and most convenient of times. How easy do you want your life to be. A little resilience goes a long way. A little discomfort is actually very healthy.

DoesAnyoneRememberBoneyM · 24/06/2026 21:31

MasterBeth · 24/06/2026 21:07

Yes, it was very hot in 1976
Yes, it lasted for several weeks
Yes, it was accompanied by a drought that lasted many months
Yes, it was an extraordinary event

Which is why it has stuck in the British consciousness BECAUSE it was so unusual

And yet...The peak temperature in 1976 was 35.9°C

That doesn't even make the top 10 of UK record temperatures.

The 1911 record stood for 79 years
The 1990 record stood for 13 years
The 2003 record stood for 16 years
The 2022 record may be broken this week, after 4 years

In fact, 1976 no longer makes the top 5 hottest summers.

They are all from 2000 onwards.

It didn't use to be normal to hit even 32°C
It's now happened every year since 2010
It certainly wasn't normal to hit 35°C
It happened in just 10 summers in the 20th Century
It's happened 9 times in the first 26 years of the 21st Century*

So, 1976 was unique because of the length of the heatwave and the drought.

But the intensity of the heat we are experiencing now is worse, the frequency of the heat events is worse and the global situation is worse than 1976.

*@monkemma on Bluesky has supplied all these stats. Worth a follow.

I agree that on average it is getting hotter.
We also have portable air conditioners that are relatively cheap which we did not have in the seventies. Problem solved.

glitterpaperchain · 24/06/2026 21:30

DoesAnyoneRememberBoneyM · 24/06/2026 21:25

I think if you want your life to be better then you should go ahead and improve it.

If I want my life to be better then I should take steps to improve it.

In case you hadn't noticed the UK is sinking. There is way more hardship coming that we currently have. Food prices will skyrocket come winter when lack of fertiliser makes it way into prices. Energy costs are increasing come 1 July. Then we are going to have a new inexperienced PM who has spoke with distain about the bond markets. Yeah good one Andy. Shame we owe so much money to them. But yeah fuck them.

I suggest you toughen up and act like an adult. Nobody likes to be uncomfortable but that's okay. We are adults. We are in charge of our own lives. We can change things.

p.s. yes they did die in the wars often at a very young age and here is you complaining about a few hot, uncomfortable days at home. Not really any comparison is there.

I really genuinely don't understand your perspective.

People died in a war, so no one can ever want to improve lives now?

"The UK is stinking" well yes that's kind of exactly my point. Why aren't we seeing collective action? This weather is just one example. As much as you try to minimise it, many people will die and be hospitalised. Babies and the elderly will suffer. What would motivate someone to ignore that, shrug their shoulders, and say 'stop moaning get on it with it'? Why would some rather do that than campaign to make that situation better?

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NorthXNorthWest · 24/06/2026 21:29

@MasterBeth
I don't think you can compare them.

It can be true that the drought and heatwave of 1976 were more severe as a single period of time, while also being true that changing weather patterns are creating bigger long-term problems

Four or five really hot days are not the same as several weeks of sustained heat combined with a severe drought. In 1976, water use was restricted in parts of the country and some areas had major supply issues. Either one of those on their would have been challenging, but together... Lets ask the people of Kent about water shortages!

If we are comparing specific heatwaves, then 1976 remains the benchmark against which everything else is measured. If we are discussing broader weather patterns and long-term climate risks, then that is a whole different conversation altogether.

DoesAnyoneRememberBoneyM · 24/06/2026 21:29

JenniferBooth · 24/06/2026 21:21

Its a few uncomfortable days for the ones who dont live in flats/tower blocks

I'm pretty sure portable air conditioners work just as well in flats as houses. Hose out of window. Shut curtains and off you go.
Poor delivery man might have to lug it up a few flights of stairs if you don't have a lift but otherwise it's exactly the same.

Sheismycherrypie · 24/06/2026 21:29

MasterBeth · 24/06/2026 21:27

As you are copy/pasting an AI generated post scraping hugely biased and unreliable content sources i.e. the Mail and the Telegraph, I suggest you don't really know what you are talking about.

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It was neither the Mail nor the Telegraph.

MasterBeth · 24/06/2026 21:27

As you are copy/pasting an AI generated post scraping hugely biased and unreliable content sources i.e. the Mail and the Telegraph, I suggest you don't really know what you are talking about.

Pansykavalier · 24/06/2026 21:26

whilst I agree that the UK needs badly overdue improvements to infrastructure, I don’t think that installing AC for occasional brief heat waves ought to be a priority. Better railways, improved roads/road systems, better (public) transport in general, cleaner water, cleaner air, electric cars, renewable energy sources are way more important.

glitterpaperchain · 24/06/2026 21:26

JenniferBooth · 24/06/2026 21:20

its not just a few uncomfortable days.

During the summer of 2022, the UK experienced five distinct heatwave periods ranging from 3 to 16 days in length, which culminated in a historic national temperature record of (40.3^{\circ }\text{C}). 1, 2]
According to the UK Health Security Agency, the five heatwave episodes included:
Episode 1: 4 days (June 16 to June 19)
Episode 2: 16 days (July 10 to July 25), which included the most intense 2-day period of Level 4 extreme heat (July 18 and July 19)
Episode 3: 7 days (July 30 to August 5)
Episode 4: 10 days (August 8 to August 17)
Episode 5: 3 days (August 23 to August 25)
The UK experienced four distinct, relatively short-lived heatwaves during the summer of 2025, each lasting between 5 to 6 days. While these events were brief, they occurred throughout the season and resulted in the warmest overall UK summer on record. 1, 2, 3]
Breakdown of the 2025 heatwave events:
Heatwave 1 (Third week of June): Officially declared in mid-June, lasting about five days in central and eastern England before breaking with thunderstorms.
Heatwave 2 (Late June - Early July): This event lasted about six days for parts of Yorkshire and the Humber and five days in the East. A longer, more intense spell of this heatwave affected London and southern areas, peaking at 34.7°C between June 23 and July 2.
Heatwave 3 & 4 (July and August): Additional, intermittent heatwaves occurred during these months, pushing the overall summer average for the UK to a record-breaking 16.1°C. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

I think PP is a troll, no one participating in good faith would glean this from my post

OP who seems to think a few uncomfortable days equals a crisis.

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