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AIBU to ask why ADHD and autism are dismissed as disabilities?

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SummerAtaris · 24/06/2026 16:12

There’s been a tonne of threads about benefits recently and there seems to be a recurring theme that ‘only the most severe disabilities should get any help’ and they almost always mention that people suffering with MH health issues, or ‘non issues’ like ADHD should be cut off from help. I’d like to know what those people in particular think adhd is, and why they don’t consider it to be a disability.

I am 44 years old, I have level 1 autism and ‘combined type’ adhd. I have worked since I left school at 16. I raised my eldest 3 children from my first marriage by myself, all 3 are diagnosed with varying degrees of neurodivergences (didn’t know that at the time)

I am now married to a wonderful man, and we have children together, they are also ND.

It is a challenge every single day to just make myself wash & brush my teeth. And I need to try and herd 2
other people with the same issues to do the same.

I am massively in debt, because the filter that everyone else seems to have that tell you, no don’t do it, just isn’t there.

I literally cannot sleep. I try. But my brain is almost always stuck in a loop of catastrophising, and is running a chorus of a song that I hate over and over and over and there’s nothing I can do about it. When I do sleep I’m still catastrophising and have incredibly vivid nightmares and wake up sad, anxious and depressed and I can’t shake off my dreams easily.

I go from 7 or so days of zero sleep, then pass out and am comatose for 48-72 hours approx.

I forget to eat, I forget to drink water. I don’t know that I need the bathroom until my bladder is literally about to burst.

I suffer from boredom so extreme that I’ve attempted suicide multiple times.

‘Masking’ takes everything that I have. By the time I get home after any social event (by event I mean anything that needs me to present as a ‘normal’ person, school drops offs, appointments etc) leave me gasping for breath, physically stimming to the point my muscles are crying out and I still can’t stop, endlessly ruminating over conversations I had to participate in against my will.

This is not a comprehensive list. I’ll remember this post for the rest of my life and there will always be things I should have added to it.

My body is perfectly fine. I’m not disabled in that way. But my brain, my bodies operating system, IS disabled. I’m so tired of hearing that adhd and lower levels of autism are not disabling. They absolutely fucking are. I manage the school run these days and that’s pretty much it. I haven’t been able to work for around 8 years now.

Go ahead. Tell me how you’d employ me.

OP posts:
XenoBitch · 25/06/2026 01:36

Comeonenglandtonite · 25/06/2026 01:34

You pop up on every thread supporting people’s right to claim benefits and not work. Working people have rights too.

This is nothing to do with working and claiming benefits. It is about ASD/ADHD.

Comeonenglandtonite · 25/06/2026 01:34

XenoBitch · 25/06/2026 01:29

No, I am saying you are achieving nothing but pure spite by telling someone that they should not have had the amount of kids that they already have.
What is your motive?

You pop up on every thread supporting people’s right to claim benefits and not work. Working people have rights too.

Firefly1987 · 25/06/2026 01:32

How come whenever people complain about not coping it's never that they can't have a relationship or kids (ie something they want) it's always something they don't want to do that they find hard.

There are people out there who could only dream of having a relationship and kids, never mind 5 of them. It won't be in the cards for them because their autism affects them that severely. That's who I feel bad for.

XenoBitch · 25/06/2026 01:29

Crochetandtea · 25/06/2026 01:26

Are we supposed to tell everyone they’re making super choices when they are telling us the opposite. You can’t make everything ok by telling someone that everything is ok! Some of us live in the real world. Night night! I have work tomorrow and it will take me at least an hour or more to go to sleep.

No, I am saying you are achieving nothing but pure spite by telling someone that they should not have had the amount of kids that they already have.
What is your motive?

Crochetandtea · 25/06/2026 01:26

Are we supposed to tell everyone they’re making super choices when they are telling us the opposite. You can’t make everything ok by telling someone that everything is ok! Some of us live in the real world. Night night! I have work tomorrow and it will take me at least an hour or more to go to sleep.

XenoBitch · 25/06/2026 01:15

Crochetandtea · 25/06/2026 01:13

But it will impact the children she already has? Are you so short sighted that you cannot see how our choices have consequences for all involved. It must be wonderful to live your life never having to consider how your decisions will affect your future.

Does it make you feel good to punch down?
What are you gaining by telling someone else that they should not have kids they already have...?
This is MUMSnet... lift other mums up.

Crochetandtea · 25/06/2026 01:13

But it will impact the children she already has? Are you so short sighted that you cannot see how our choices have consequences for all involved. It must be wonderful to live your life never having to consider how your decisions will affect your future.

XenoBitch · 25/06/2026 01:11

Crochetandtea · 25/06/2026 01:09

Perhaps someone struggling like her with two children will realise that having a third or fourth probably isn’t the best idea. Perhaps someone else can learn what not to do when they struggle to look after themselves.
Or should we never voice our opinion for fear of offending someone? If you want to tell everyone your story then you have to accept not everyone will agree with your choices.
Im sorry this lady has had such an incredibly difficult life . It sounds really difficult. It’s possible to be sympathetic yet pragmatic at the same time.

Telling someone with 4 kids that they should not have 4 kids... just pointless and nasty.
But if she has more... well, it will not impact you at all.

Crochetandtea · 25/06/2026 01:10

XenoBitch · 25/06/2026 01:05

No, you are just being nasty. No need for it.
And you have no business in the reproductive choices of other people. None.

Edited

Of course I don’t . People can have as many children as they wish. I just hate that some children have to grow up at a huge disadvantage. Don’t you ?

Crochetandtea · 25/06/2026 01:09

Perhaps someone struggling like her with two children will realise that having a third or fourth probably isn’t the best idea. Perhaps someone else can learn what not to do when they struggle to look after themselves.
Or should we never voice our opinion for fear of offending someone? If you want to tell everyone your story then you have to accept not everyone will agree with your choices.
Im sorry this lady has had such an incredibly difficult life . It sounds really difficult. It’s possible to be sympathetic yet pragmatic at the same time.

XenoBitch · 25/06/2026 01:05

Crochetandtea · 25/06/2026 01:03

Perhaps she’ll read this and make sure she doesn’t have number 6 !

No, you are just being nasty. No need for it.
And you have no business in the reproductive choices of other people. None.

Crochetandtea · 25/06/2026 01:03

Perhaps she’ll read this and make sure she doesn’t have number 6 !

XenoBitch · 25/06/2026 01:03

Crochetandtea · 25/06/2026 01:01

If life is such a struggle for them then why would you bring innocent children into the world. It’s not a compulsory requirement or something which can’t be prevented? Someone who struggles so so much can’t give a brood of children everything they need. They’re setting up another generation of young autistic children to fail. Whywould you do that intentionally? It’s incredibly selfish to put your want for a child ahead of the quality of life they would actually have. After having three I would hazard a guess that they already had enough to contend with so why have more? Makes no sense to me ?

what do you gain by telling her she should not have had 5 kids?
Nothing at all. Her kids are here. You are just punching down.

Crochetandtea · 25/06/2026 01:02

Of course you can’t shove them back in but you can make damn sure you don’t have anymore. The world doesn’t need more children who grow into adults who can’t look after themselves. It’s not sustainable.

Crochetandtea · 25/06/2026 01:01

XenoBitch · 25/06/2026 00:48

Why would someone comment on that? What is OP to do... shove them back in?

If life is such a struggle for them then why would you bring innocent children into the world. It’s not a compulsory requirement or something which can’t be prevented? Someone who struggles so so much can’t give a brood of children everything they need. They’re setting up another generation of young autistic children to fail. Whywould you do that intentionally? It’s incredibly selfish to put your want for a child ahead of the quality of life they would actually have. After having three I would hazard a guess that they already had enough to contend with so why have more? Makes no sense to me ?

ChildrenOfTheQuorn · 25/06/2026 00:54

You lost me at having 3 ND children, then choosing to have MORE kids with a different man.

XenoBitch · 25/06/2026 00:48

Crochetandtea · 25/06/2026 00:46

Why would someone who struggles to look after themselves have at least 5 children? That was your biggest mistake.

Why would someone comment on that? What is OP to do... shove them back in?

Crochetandtea · 25/06/2026 00:46

Why would someone who struggles to look after themselves have at least 5 children? That was your biggest mistake.

OwlBeThere · 25/06/2026 00:23

Sheismycherrypie · 25/06/2026 00:01

This is what I don’t get.

Raising kids is far far far harder than working and the crossover of skills is substantial.

I don’t believe that somebody who can adequately care for 5 children can’t work because of ADHD.

not the OP but her story is fairly similar to my own.
parenting my children doesn’t require me to look people in the eye, or work to a deadline, or commute across a city, or answer the telephone, or consider other people’s feelings on if i’ve accidentally said the wrong thing.
My children know me and I don’t have to change who i am as a person in front of them. We are all autistic (4 out of 5 are working/studying, the 5th is currently in hospital long term) so they understand me and i understand them.

OwlBeThere · 25/06/2026 00:18

Rosesandcamelias · 24/06/2026 16:35

I have autism. I don't know what level. I spent my school years sat alone in the library, a complete loner who couldn't maintain eye contact with anyone. This has continued into adulthood. I have no friends. I feel sheer panic at any social situations. I haven't seen any of my relatives apart from parents since I was about 10 years old (and they lived around the corner).

I used to look around at my peers and wonder, why am I so different? Why don't I know what to say to anyone, why am I always by myself, why haven't I succeeded like others have? Well I know now, Autism. So yes, it is definitely a disability.

I do wonder whether people getting the diagnosis truly have social struggles though. From my tiny case study, my neighbours teenage daughter has just been diagnosed with autism, yet I see her coming and going loudly with friends all the time. I think, but I'm autistic and I've never had that?

Sorry, rambling.

autism presentation different ways for different people. When I was a teenage girl I also was out all the time with friends and on the surface of it looked like I was enjoying myself. What was going on behind the scenes was a very different story. I would go out and i would drink way to much from much to young an age in order to be able to socialise. I lived in a perpetual state of panic that I wasn’t doing being a person correctly, I had an eating disorder from trying so hard to be like other people. Im covered in scars from self harming. I broke my own fingers to have a reason to not go to school for a few days because i found it so exhausting. i didn’t do a full week in school in secondary school ever because I just couldn’t cope with the level of effort that took me.
So don’t fall into the trap of thinking because other autistic people appear to manage things you couldn’t that they don’t struggle with those things, the ways they struggle might just be different to you.

XenoBitch · 25/06/2026 00:08

Sheismycherrypie · 25/06/2026 00:04

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Amazing response.

Sheismycherrypie · 25/06/2026 00:04

XenoBitch · 25/06/2026 00:04

They have autism too.

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XenoBitch · 25/06/2026 00:04

Sheismycherrypie · 25/06/2026 00:01

This is what I don’t get.

Raising kids is far far far harder than working and the crossover of skills is substantial.

I don’t believe that somebody who can adequately care for 5 children can’t work because of ADHD.

They have autism too.

Sheismycherrypie · 25/06/2026 00:02

If ND parents who absolutely cannot work are ‘entitled’ to have 5 kids destined to also not work as they too are too neurodiverse, then you can see why we are in the mess we are in with the workforce.

Sheismycherrypie · 25/06/2026 00:01

MyIcyHeart · 24/06/2026 23:57

But you've managed to raise 5 children? Okay...

This is what I don’t get.

Raising kids is far far far harder than working and the crossover of skills is substantial.

I don’t believe that somebody who can adequately care for 5 children can’t work because of ADHD.