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Friend has gotten really funny due to my weekend away with man

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Laurenn25 · 22/06/2026 18:22

I’ve been single for three years, single Mum to primary age DC who I’ve put first during that time. Only recently did I start looking to date again, I’ve met someone who I get along really well with and we’ve arranged a weekend away for mid-July.

My best friend had been on for a while about the two of us going away for a weekend, but for various reasons I didn’t outright commit to this. I told her it would depend on a few factors including finances.

I’ve told her about my planned weekend with the man I’m seeing and she got really funny and asked is that why I can’t go away with her. I said it wasn’t as simple as that. She said we’ve been friends for years and as soon as I’ve got a ‘sniff of cock’ I’ve dropped her. I haven’t dropped her at all.

It’s true I probably could have gone away with her, but I didn’t commit to it and can’t afford two trips now. She has made me feel a bit crap.

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DimwittedSkater · 28/06/2026 22:21

ruethewhirl · 28/06/2026 11:44

Parts of this thread are definitely giving me the impression some people think dropping your friends for a man is the norm! My friend eventually moved away and got married, sadly too late to have kids, but other than that she seems very happy from what I can see on Facebook, which is the only contact I have with her these days. I'm happy for her, but she and other friend and I had already drifted apart by this time, partly because of what I described in my previous post - the other two of us just got fed up of it in the end.

Don't blame you at all. Different approaches to friendship are a dealbreaker, ultimately.

When my parents retired, and neither of us lived near, they were very grateful to have friends, and Dad even more so during the ten years he lived after Mum died. Friends are essential! I have a very close friend from work, and we both get on splendidly with a third person at work. However, the third person doesn't do friendship. She's content with her husband and her parents. In all the years I sat right next to her, she never once mentioned seeing a friend at the weekend or anything. Apparently she has one friend a few hours away, and that's it. It's really odd since the three of us get on SO well at work. But she is not interested in a friendship outside work with either of us. It's just not important to her. Her husband is her everything. She might end up quite lonely in later years if she outlives him or they get divorced. The rest of us are having friendships, forming bonds, and making memories.

ruethewhirl · 28/06/2026 11:44

DimwittedSkater · 27/06/2026 15:20

I honestly think that some people think you're MEANT to drop your friends for a man and that everyone thinks relationships always take priority, even in the early days.

Well, we've seen how that works out.

I can relate to being made to feel utterly dispensible by a man-worshipping friend.

And yes, I would also make plans according to what came up first and not whether a man had asked me out. If you do the latter, you're then in a position where you're waiting around for a man to get organised - hell no!

Your friend sounds very annoying. What happened to her - did she end up marrying and having a family? You two were very kind to take into account her situation re. kids.

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Parts of this thread are definitely giving me the impression some people think dropping your friends for a man is the norm! My friend eventually moved away and got married, sadly too late to have kids, but other than that she seems very happy from what I can see on Facebook, which is the only contact I have with her these days. I'm happy for her, but she and other friend and I had already drifted apart by this time, partly because of what I described in my previous post - the other two of us just got fed up of it in the end.

QueenofDestruction · 27/06/2026 15:32

Chocyulelog · 22/06/2026 19:19

If my friend had been single for 3 years and wanted to prioritise a weekend away with a new man, I'd be ecstatic for her! Going away with a friend is completely different to a date. She's out of order. * *

Exactly maybe she needs or wants sex..

DimwittedSkater · 27/06/2026 15:25

TrishM80 · 27/06/2026 15:19

That's unforgivable according to a large cohort on this forum!

It's not simply because OP is going away with a man. It's because she led the friend to believe things that weren't true about the possibility of them going away together.

Context matters!

DimwittedSkater · 27/06/2026 15:20

ruethewhirl · 27/06/2026 11:10

Neither do I. When I was single I used to make social plans according to whatever came up first, not whether or not a man had asked me out. I used to have a friend, though, who'd never confirm anything until she knew whether or not she had a date. (She was doing OLD at the time.) Three of us used to socialise together but she used to make the other two of us feel utterly dispensible at times.

Tbf in her case she really wanted kids and was running out of time, and we were really sympathetic to that, but she also used to drop her friends completely whenever she was in a relationship i.e. not see us at all. When my other friend called her out on it, apparently she just looked blank and said, but I've got [name of bf] now, then accused other friend of being jealous she had someone, which wasn't the case, we were just tired of being messed about.

When that particular bf dumped her she turned up at other friend's house with her stuff saying she couldn't bear to be at home on her own, and stayed for two weeks. She never seemed to understand that friendship is supposed to be a two-way street.

I honestly think that some people think you're MEANT to drop your friends for a man and that everyone thinks relationships always take priority, even in the early days.

Well, we've seen how that works out.

I can relate to being made to feel utterly dispensible by a man-worshipping friend.

And yes, I would also make plans according to what came up first and not whether a man had asked me out. If you do the latter, you're then in a position where you're waiting around for a man to get organised - hell no!

Your friend sounds very annoying. What happened to her - did she end up marrying and having a family? You two were very kind to take into account her situation re. kids.

TrishM80 · 27/06/2026 15:19

LeopardStar1 · 27/06/2026 09:42

Shes not making it the be all and end all. Shes choosing to go away for a weekend with her man instead of her mate .

That's unforgivable according to a large cohort on this forum!

ruethewhirl · 27/06/2026 11:10

DimwittedSkater · 26/06/2026 04:01

Yep. I'll never forget being relegated to bloody Sunday lunchtime when my bestie got together with a man (who turned out to be utterly useless). I wouldn't mind at all if she had already made plans with him when I asked if she wanted to do something. Wouldn't mind at all! The thing that really, really annoyed me is that she refused to make plans with me in case he asked her out!!! That is, there were no plans in place when I asked her, but she kept it free just in case. I'm the opposite, whoever asks me first gets me, and if the man didn't ask me in time, he'll learn to ask earlier next time. This was about twenty years ago. I didn't understand keeping an evening free for a man who hasn't asked me out then, and I don't understand it now.

Neither do I. When I was single I used to make social plans according to whatever came up first, not whether or not a man had asked me out. I used to have a friend, though, who'd never confirm anything until she knew whether or not she had a date. (She was doing OLD at the time.) Three of us used to socialise together but she used to make the other two of us feel utterly dispensible at times.

Tbf in her case she really wanted kids and was running out of time, and we were really sympathetic to that, but she also used to drop her friends completely whenever she was in a relationship i.e. not see us at all. When my other friend called her out on it, apparently she just looked blank and said, but I've got [name of bf] now, then accused other friend of being jealous she had someone, which wasn't the case, we were just tired of being messed about.

When that particular bf dumped her she turned up at other friend's house with her stuff saying she couldn't bear to be at home on her own, and stayed for two weeks. She never seemed to understand that friendship is supposed to be a two-way street.

LeopardStar1 · 27/06/2026 09:42

Shes not making it the be all and end all. Shes choosing to go away for a weekend with her man instead of her mate .

DimwittedSkater · 27/06/2026 01:59

BlokeyMcBlokersonVonMannSplainHeim · 26/06/2026 21:31

Well thanks for letting me know what I think, apparently. I thought there might be some middle moral ground for a husband in a marriage between a) having dumb luck and b) smugly taking all the credit. You know, the obvious stuff like listening to the advice of family and friends, working through conflict together, learning from mistakes etc. Turns out I'm both super lucky and smug to boot. Up to now I just thought I was just describing bog standard nitty gritty grind, nothing praiseworthy, just an expectation that everyone had to live up to. I grew up in a time when divorce was rare and almost every couple we knew just had to make it work and present a united front. And so they did.

It's also good to learn that there is apparently no problem worth mentioning of abusive, cheating or neglectful females in marriage or relationships, despite what we observe on social media - Tiktok springs to mind. No, abuse is all about men or it doesn't matter. Further, I'm delighted to discover I have acquired and maintained a rosy viewpoint, despite having to help family deal with dodgy spouses and despite all the shenanigans we see all around us on a daily basis. A lot of what I've just learnt will also come as a surprise to my good lady, who is sometimes my staunchest critic, but seems to have missed some of these points.

I also learnt that I lack awareness both that luck plays a role in life and also that things don't always work out the way we hope or deserve. Apparently I also think it's people's fault when marriage doesn't work out. I would have said I understood that commitment was necessary but not sufficient, but I now learn that I was mistaken about my own views. Strange then that I didn't say anything judgmental like that to OP, what with her being a single mum. It's almost as if I was only concerned with giving her the best shot at finding happiness.

I don't really care that you have such a poor opinion of me, dear dim witted skater, but I don't take kindly to people making up false and disrespectful ad hominems to score debating points.

No disrespect to anybody, but this experience has decided me to delete my account and get off Mumsnet for good. Being an old school guy I still foolishly (ok, rosily, you got me) expect people to respect the implicit rules of debate - e.g. treat your opponent with respect, play the ball and not the player, and deal with the best version of your opponent's case (steelman it as the kids say) instead of finding some rhetorical device to score points or to derail the debate into the weeds where we find ourselves right now. This is a triumph of hope over experience, because on social media you don't get to choose who you engage with, and if I thought the mothers of our children might be any different, well not necessarily, they're crooked timber the same as anyone else. (Except the ones who expressed support, obviously - you're golden haha).

So wear it as a feather in your cap, dim witted skater, that you've chased an awful male off of here, and spare a thought for my poor wife who is stuck with a smug so-and-so me. BTW I read her this and she told me just to say my piece, blow out a deep breath and don't read the replies. So I think she'll be OK.

I'm sorry, I couldn't read all that, it was just too negative/upsetting, and I've had a long work day and too much internet. I didn't mean to upset you so much at all! I was just pointing out that some people have really bad luck in marriage. As I said before, I am really and genuinely happy for you that this hasn't been your experience. When your commitment was rock-solid, as mine was, and a divorce was thrust upon you that you had no choice in, people who have not experienced the absolute horror that is divorce can get a bit triggered by people for whom it did work out.

I think the worst thing is the way that it slices your life so thoroughly in half and changes what you thought it was going to be so irrevocably. Your pensions, your retirement, your whole sense of what's fair and just. It smashes the idea that if you do your part, so will the other person, and you will be rewarded with a golden old age together. There really are no words for how much damage an unwanted divorce does to your life.

I am very glad that you are happily married, and I think you should go and enjoy your marriage, instead of listening to folk like me!

ChipswithMayonnaise · 27/06/2026 00:22

Ironically enough I am away with a friend (who has a husband) right now. We like the same sort of things and agreed on costs, though.

dayslikethese1 · 26/06/2026 21:57

I'm really curious how far the discussions/plans got with OP's friend because it kind of sounds like OP never wanted to go away and friend just didn't take the hint. And OP says they've been away together before and it didn't go smoothly.

BlokeyMcBlokersonVonMannSplainHeim · 26/06/2026 21:31

DimwittedSkater · 26/06/2026 16:50

And what about those of us who "did the hard work of commitment" yet our husbands still unilaterally decided to end the marriage or cheated or were abusive or neglected us in every way? You're still patting yourself on the back and taking all the credit for your marriage - i.e. being smug - when in fact it takes luck as well as work.

You're probably going to say "Oh, people should make better choices." Well, people who have never experienced male abuse in marriage do not know that they're absolutely charming until they have you well and truly trapped. It famously starts in pregnancy.

Look, I'm really glad for you that your marriage has been so good that it's allowed you to retain this rosy viewpoint of romance, sex, and marriage over many decades. I really and truly am pleased for you. Marriage really does work out in the long term for some people, and they give the rest of us hope.

But a little more awareness that this is not the case for many, despite our Herculean marital efforts, would not go amiss.

Well thanks for letting me know what I think, apparently. I thought there might be some middle moral ground for a husband in a marriage between a) having dumb luck and b) smugly taking all the credit. You know, the obvious stuff like listening to the advice of family and friends, working through conflict together, learning from mistakes etc. Turns out I'm both super lucky and smug to boot. Up to now I just thought I was just describing bog standard nitty gritty grind, nothing praiseworthy, just an expectation that everyone had to live up to. I grew up in a time when divorce was rare and almost every couple we knew just had to make it work and present a united front. And so they did.

It's also good to learn that there is apparently no problem worth mentioning of abusive, cheating or neglectful females in marriage or relationships, despite what we observe on social media - Tiktok springs to mind. No, abuse is all about men or it doesn't matter. Further, I'm delighted to discover I have acquired and maintained a rosy viewpoint, despite having to help family deal with dodgy spouses and despite all the shenanigans we see all around us on a daily basis. A lot of what I've just learnt will also come as a surprise to my good lady, who is sometimes my staunchest critic, but seems to have missed some of these points.

I also learnt that I lack awareness both that luck plays a role in life and also that things don't always work out the way we hope or deserve. Apparently I also think it's people's fault when marriage doesn't work out. I would have said I understood that commitment was necessary but not sufficient, but I now learn that I was mistaken about my own views. Strange then that I didn't say anything judgmental like that to OP, what with her being a single mum. It's almost as if I was only concerned with giving her the best shot at finding happiness.

I don't really care that you have such a poor opinion of me, dear dim witted skater, but I don't take kindly to people making up false and disrespectful ad hominems to score debating points.

No disrespect to anybody, but this experience has decided me to delete my account and get off Mumsnet for good. Being an old school guy I still foolishly (ok, rosily, you got me) expect people to respect the implicit rules of debate - e.g. treat your opponent with respect, play the ball and not the player, and deal with the best version of your opponent's case (steelman it as the kids say) instead of finding some rhetorical device to score points or to derail the debate into the weeds where we find ourselves right now. This is a triumph of hope over experience, because on social media you don't get to choose who you engage with, and if I thought the mothers of our children might be any different, well not necessarily, they're crooked timber the same as anyone else. (Except the ones who expressed support, obviously - you're golden haha).

So wear it as a feather in your cap, dim witted skater, that you've chased an awful male off of here, and spare a thought for my poor wife who is stuck with a smug so-and-so me. BTW I read her this and she told me just to say my piece, blow out a deep breath and don't read the replies. So I think she'll be OK.

DimwittedSkater · 26/06/2026 16:50

BlokeyMcBlokersonVonMannSplainHeim · 26/06/2026 11:58

No problem, but you have been quite quick to patronise me, call me smug and laugh in my face. Even now you're assuming I've had it easy, for some reason, rather than doing the hard work of commitment.

I've said my piece and I think this discussion has pretty much played out now.

And what about those of us who "did the hard work of commitment" yet our husbands still unilaterally decided to end the marriage or cheated or were abusive or neglected us in every way? You're still patting yourself on the back and taking all the credit for your marriage - i.e. being smug - when in fact it takes luck as well as work.

You're probably going to say "Oh, people should make better choices." Well, people who have never experienced male abuse in marriage do not know that they're absolutely charming until they have you well and truly trapped. It famously starts in pregnancy.

Look, I'm really glad for you that your marriage has been so good that it's allowed you to retain this rosy viewpoint of romance, sex, and marriage over many decades. I really and truly am pleased for you. Marriage really does work out in the long term for some people, and they give the rest of us hope.

But a little more awareness that this is not the case for many, despite our Herculean marital efforts, would not go amiss.

Owly11 · 26/06/2026 12:31

urgh your friend sounds manipulative and disgusting

ChipswithMayonnaise · 26/06/2026 12:06

ruethewhirl · 24/06/2026 12:43

If you've never met the kind of person I'm talking about, you won't know what I mean, so in that context I can sort of see why you might find it 'bizarre'. Doesn't change the fact that there are people out there of the type I described in my previous post, who are not capable of maintaining friendships and relationships at the same time and expect their friends to be OK with being picked up and dropped according to their own relationship status.

The only person I have known who seriously conplained of other people dropping her when dating is the one who in fact did the dropping when she dated, and had unreasonably demanding expectations of her friends when she was single and wanted to do stuff.

ChipswithMayonnaise · 26/06/2026 11:59

Tardigrade001 · 24/06/2026 09:16

The "friend" is massively overstepping boundaries, she sounds jealous and entitled.
And actually, even without the guy in the picture, demanding that a single mum who's not particularly wealthy goes on a luxury holiday with you just because you want it, is not ok.

Best post for a while.

BlokeyMcBlokersonVonMannSplainHeim · 26/06/2026 11:58

DimwittedSkater · 26/06/2026 10:50

@BlokeyMcBlokersonVonMannSplainHeim I apologise; I read your post that you were approaching 40 and in a stable marriage, not approaching 40 years of marriage.

Good for you; I'm glad you've had a lovely simple life in terms of marital stability. Many don't get that, through no fault of their own.

No problem, but you have been quite quick to patronise me, call me smug and laugh in my face. Even now you're assuming I've had it easy, for some reason, rather than doing the hard work of commitment.

I've said my piece and I think this discussion has pretty much played out now.

BlokeyMcBlokersonVonMannSplainHeim · 26/06/2026 11:48

DimwittedSkater · 26/06/2026 10:40

Because I read it as him approaching 40 and in a stable marriage.

You were mistaken.

ChipswithMayonnaise · 26/06/2026 11:25

DimwittedSkater · 26/06/2026 10:25

Or....if one is not performatively woke and eager to point the finger at others in order to virtue-signal, one could also read it in terms of chief executive, a common usage, and very apt the way that some women place a man as the chief the minute he shows up, booting her friends down the list and keeping space free for him when he hasn't asked her out. 🤮

Don't call me racist.

The expression is racist. Regardless of your intention. I am not insulting you.

Nobody says "Great Chief" about CEOs. The origin of that phrase is in how people talked about First Nations etc. "Heap Big Chief" and so on. The Pocahontas stereotype.

It is really grating. Language carries history with it.

DimwittedSkater · 26/06/2026 10:50

@BlokeyMcBlokersonVonMannSplainHeim I apologise; I read your post that you were approaching 40 and in a stable marriage, not approaching 40 years of marriage.

Good for you; I'm glad you've had a lovely simple life in terms of marital stability. Many don't get that, through no fault of their own.

pizzaHeart · 26/06/2026 10:43

You can be friends but not compatible for going away together.

If you wanted to go away with her you would - she should have taken the hint. Nothing wrong with not going away with her by the way as otherwise you are doing things together and see each other regularly.

DimwittedSkater · 26/06/2026 10:40

FudgeFudy · 26/06/2026 10:36

Sorry how can he have been married for nearly 40 years if he's in his 30s?

Because I read it as him approaching 40 and in a stable marriage.

DimwittedSkater · 26/06/2026 10:39

ChipswithMayonnaise · 26/06/2026 07:52

My goodness. How does this relate to the OP, whose friend positively refused OP's suggestions.

And no, nights do not get portioned out as if for a work rota! Going with the flow matters.

The topic of conversation is how some women dump their friends because Man. Isn't the thread of the conversation quite obvious? And you don't need a rota to make time for your friends and of course it's not work - not sure where that came from.

If you don't make time for your friends, you might be very lonely if His Majesty falls off his pedestal.

FudgeFudy · 26/06/2026 10:36

DimwittedSkater · 26/06/2026 10:29

I'm 15 years older than you, old enough to know that life doesn't always work out the way you planned. And yes, in my thirties, as you are, almost everyone was paired up, because it was too early for divorce to start biting people in the ass. I suspect you'll be a lot less smug in your early fifties.

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Sorry how can he have been married for nearly 40 years if he's in his 30s?

DimwittedSkater · 26/06/2026 10:29

BlokeyMcBlokersonVonMannSplainHeim · 26/06/2026 08:35

So, a controversial theory. But yes, I'll grant you, evolution is messy, the sex drive is in tension with monogamy, the human brain is plastic and highly programmable, and different societies have made very different social experiments with very different consequences. Our society is doing so now, apparently inspired by the south sea islanders and other outliers beloved of anthropologists, and IMHO it has caused things to go to shit at a rapid rate. YMMV.

I suppose I should rather have said that the basis for our Western social structure is monogamous. Pair bonding, the sacred institution of marriage and the family to ensure the children grow up stable and well-adjusted, all that. I have the impression that this has been the basis for the most successful civilisations. The West, China and Japan spring to mind. Ours is still running on the vestiges of that system, but maybe I was presumptuous and completely old-fashioned to assume that OP would probably be interested in a partner for life and a traditional family.

Showing my bias as an old man approaching 40 years in a stable marriage, I'm very grateful to have a soulmate for affection, companionship and mutual support. It seems very natural to me, and for that matter to almost everyone I know. But I know and respect that it's not for everyone. If OP just wants to stay a single parent shagging around with a succession of men, and "friend" knows that, that puts a completely different complexion on things. In that scenario, good luck to her and I'm out.

I'm 15 years older than you, old enough to know that life doesn't always work out the way you planned. And yes, in my thirties, as you are, almost everyone was paired up, because it was too early for divorce to start biting people in the ass. I suspect you'll be a lot less smug in your early fifties.