To think Andy Burnham is smug?

The policy had a lot of support (55% of the electorate actively supported it)

The Ipsos survey question was misleading though because it implied that all of the money raised would be spent improving state schools.

Keir Starmer tweeted last year that the revenue was being spent on house building targets. In fact, I remember pointing out before the 2024 election that the policy booklet did indeed state that a big chunk of revenue raised would be spent on housing and other projects. Respondents to the survey were misled.

The policy had a lot of support (55% of the electorate actively supported it)

The Ipsos survey question was misleading though because it implied that all of the money raised would be spent improving state schools.

Keir Starmer tweeted last year that the revenue was being spent on house building targets. In fact, I remember pointing out before the 2024 election that the policy booklet did indeed state that a big chunk of revenue raised would be spent on housing and other projects. Respondents to the survey were misled.

I thought the Badenoch knives and bayonet references were very ill-judged. The Tory benches didn't look comfortable themselves.

It was a policy to raise money. Money has to come from somewhere. Its only a load of old shite if you disagree with these particular businesses having to pay VAT. I don't, you do.
The arguments have been made on both sides many many times on here, with no side able to convince the other, so there's no point revisiting old ground.
The point was about KB calling BP a spiteful class warrior for removing the exemption. The policy had a lot of support (55% of the electorate actively supported it) so to describe it as a working class woman's spite is out of order.

Bullshit. Pre election the money on VAT from private schools was to fund 6,500 new teachers. There was a direct spending plan that hasn't happened.

The money has actually gone onto the increased bloat of welfare. As that labour minister said it was all about finding people to tax so that they could spaff it on welfare.

I'm really glad Burnham has said he will tackle welfare. I just hope the back benchers don't crash it again.

Bullshit. Pre election the money on VAT from private schools was to fund 6,500 new teachers. There was a direct spending plan that hasn't happened.

The money has actually gone onto the increased bloat of welfare. As that labour minister said it was all about finding people to tax so that they could spaff it on welfare.

I'm really glad Burnham has said he will tackle welfare. I just hope the back benchers don't crash it again.

It was a policy to raise money. Money has to come from somewhere. Its only a load of old shite if you disagree with these particular businesses having to pay VAT. I don't, you do.
The arguments have been made on both sides many many times on here, with no side able to convince the other, so there's no point revisiting old ground.
The point was about KB calling BP a spiteful class warrior for removing the exemption. The policy had a lot of support (55% of the electorate actively supported it) so to describe it as a working class woman's spite is out of order.

The VAT policy was to pay for those 6,500 teachers. She’s failed to do the good part of the policy.

The reason she can’t do it was the policy was a load of old shite.

And they’d like her to go, great.

He has also served as Secretary of State for health and Chief secretary to the treasury.

The presumption that because he’s from the north he’s not bright is shocking and very telling.

He does look impermeable and not very bright. I’m holding out zero hope.

Let's hope Angela Rayner and her 'scum' comments don't get a senior position in Andy Burnham's cabinet then. And Louise Haigh - the MP convicted of fraud. Perhaps the Speaker should hide the stationery in case she nicks it.

Always with the whataboutery.

Do you really think a comparisson like that is acceptable? Especially made by the LOTO?

The NEU has not said BP should go due to the removal of the tax exemption for private schools. They are supportive of that. The NEU are critical of BP for the failure to increase teachers numbers, and make improvements to pay and working conditions for teachers.

A shame for her the policy implemented has been seen as a failure by the NEU and they’ve said she should go.

Last week she compared her to a Gestapo officer

I've seen similar remarks referring to Michael Gove as Education Secretary - from teachers on Mumsnet.

Last week she compared her to a Gestapo officer.

Personal insults are ok now?

That's an extremely poor example, given even a half wit would be forced to agree those are two factual statements.

Badenoch called Bridget Phillipson a spiteful class warrior today

Kemi Badenoch probably has a point - I certainly recall this tweet from Bridget Phillipson, which would fit the description of spiteful class warrior;

Bridget Phillipson
@ bphillipsonMP
Oct 5, 2024
Our state schools need teachers more than private schools need embossed stationery. Our children need mental health support more than private schools need new pools.

That's an extremely poor example, given even a half wit would be forced to agree those are two factual statements.

Badenoch called Bridget Phillipson a spiteful class warrior today

Kemi Badenoch probably has a point - I certainly recall this tweet from Bridget Phillipson, which would fit the description of spiteful class warrior;

Bridget Phillipson
@ bphillipsonMP
Oct 5, 2024
Our state schools need teachers more than private schools need embossed stationery. Our children need mental health support more than private schools need new pools.

Badenoch called Bridget Phillipson a spiteful class warrior today so clearly she hasn't got the memo it's a horrible misogynist term for a woman.
PP was at least judging on the disgraceful behaviour she'd observed today (the Burnham insult was very low). Badenoch was using it without grounds, merely to insult another woman for implementing a policy she disagreed with.