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Anyone else in the South East worried about Andy Burnham bringing in a land tax?

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Beachbooks · 22/06/2026 12:17

With it looking likely that Andy Burnhan will be the next PM, I was interested to see if anyone else in London / the south east were worried about potential tax raises specifically around the land tax rather than stamp duty ?

A lot of my friends who live locally are worrying that he will make the land tax for the South East so high in proportion to other areas of the UK that it will be financially very difficult to afford but then also extremely difficult to sell!!

BTW we have very standard house and garden but we live in an expensive area

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CurlewKate · 24/06/2026 07:50

Beachbooks · 22/06/2026 12:27

Yes totally appreciate there are also expensive areas in the UK but the chat where I live seems to be that he will slap higher taxes on the SE and London just because it’s the SE and London

Ah. “the chat where I live”. OK then.

Boohoo76 · 24/06/2026 07:08

BIossomtoes · 24/06/2026 06:55

That’s only part of the reason. Parking revenue is massive in Westminster so is its income from business rates.

And that justifies people in the rest of the South paying even more council tax when they are already having to deal with high property prices and expensive commuting costs? It’s nonsense and people like you are being whipped into hysteria by politicians who love to pick on one group to win the favour of another.

CatsMagic · 24/06/2026 07:03

Sewciopath · 22/06/2026 13:56

Nothing, Dandelion and Burdock is my chippy can of choice but I know its a bit marmite so vimto would be the safer option for the likes of Macron and Trump

You have all forgotten the true drink of the North ….. BURNHAM MUST BRING BACK SASS!!!

Bikenutz · 24/06/2026 07:00

So the scaremongering posts start already 🙄 The guy hasn’t even started yet.

FYI, LVT can include tax relief for primary residences and working farms.

BIossomtoes · 24/06/2026 06:55

Boohoo76 · 24/06/2026 00:12

I live 40 miles from London and pay £4k. My house isn’t in the top band and it’s not worth £2 million. Yes, some parts of London have very low council tax largely because they have a younger population which means that the adult social care costs are much lower for those areas. Older people move out to areas like the one I live in putting pressure on our services with the result that our council tax is the same or higher than areas in the North. You can’t justify higher property tax based on the situation in a few London boroughs.

That’s only part of the reason. Parking revenue is massive in Westminster so is its income from business rates.

bittertwisted · 24/06/2026 05:20

ExtraOnions · 22/06/2026 12:57

Those bloody Northerns… going “down south” eating pies and drinking Gravy, punishing the Middle Classes with extra taxes, to pay for Lard & Whippet racing

Don’t forget ‘just because it’s the south’

Boohoo76 · 24/06/2026 00:12

BIossomtoes · 23/06/2026 18:32

If you live in a £2million house in Westminster you pay £1200 council tax. It’s the absolute maximum you can pay there.

I live 40 miles from London and pay £4k. My house isn’t in the top band and it’s not worth £2 million. Yes, some parts of London have very low council tax largely because they have a younger population which means that the adult social care costs are much lower for those areas. Older people move out to areas like the one I live in putting pressure on our services with the result that our council tax is the same or higher than areas in the North. You can’t justify higher property tax based on the situation in a few London boroughs.

Boohoo76 · 24/06/2026 00:05

MrsPapillon · 22/06/2026 23:06

The top 10 cheapest councils in the UK for council tax are:

Wandsworth
Westminster
City of London
Hammersmith & Fulham
Kensington & Chelsea
Tower Hamlets
Southwark
Newham
Hackney
Lambeth

The top 4 all have Band A council tax less than £1200 and the top two have Band B less than £1200.

Those are all in London. London does not equal “the South”. Many of us live outside London and pay the same or more council tax than those in the North. The area that I live in 40 miles from London has higher council tax than Leeds, for example.

Boohoo76 · 24/06/2026 00:00

MrsPapillon · 22/06/2026 12:59

I’m paying £4000+ a year CT in the north for a 4 bed and receiving practically nothing in way of services in return. It’s about time London paid its fair share for all the wonderful things on offer there like excellent transport, museums and parks instead of owning a £2m house and paying £1200 a year. I’d welcome a land tax.

I’m paying that for a 4 bed 40 miles from London and also have little access to services - the first bus leaves our village at 9.30am The commuter train line that I use is the most expensive in the UK. But Andy Burnham will wallop me with more tax because I live in “the South”. Expensive house prices does not equal low council tax and excellent public services. I compared the council tax bands in my area with council tax bands in Leeds. We are paying more for the same band.

Katemax82 · 23/06/2026 23:46

I don't care I'm stuck renting

GoodkneeBadKnee · 23/06/2026 23:20

DdraigGoch · 23/06/2026 19:58

After 16 years of Oxford graduates fucking the country up, any change has got to be an improvement.

Umm, any change? Really??

DdraigGoch · 23/06/2026 19:58

Crwysmam · 22/06/2026 15:15

He is a Cambridge graduate, from before they softened up the entrance to encourage Northern upstarts. I wonder how many of the “Southeners” commenting have his academic background?
Obviously this does qualify him to run as PM but like many before doesn’t guarantee he’ll make a decent job of it. I am in no way a Labour supporter but if we have to have a Labour government then I’d rather have an alpha male character rather than the wishy washy Labour leaders we’ve had over the last 30 years.
I always wonder how different the 90s would have been if John Smith hadn’t died prematurely. He was probably the last true Labour statesman and morally “straight” leader of the Labour Party. It has been said that he would not have allowed the country to be drawn into the Middle East conflict in 2003 which may have altered the countries whole trajectory over the last 20yrs. I never liked Blair and was disappointed that Milliband lost the leadership contest.

After 16 years of Oxford graduates fucking the country up, any change has got to be an improvement.

deedee176 · 23/06/2026 19:08

monkeysox · 22/06/2026 22:35

Absolutely disagree.

Much as you might not like it, it’s fiscally true and not open to debate. Facts are facts.

Lugol · 23/06/2026 18:47

Moii · 23/06/2026 18:18

I'm in the north west and worried about it. We have high earners on this estate who are part time because they lose to much if they earn over £100k (Dr) and people on part benefits who work part time because it's made up by housing benefits. It's crazy no one has an insentive to work full time.

Labour have managed to kick the aspiration out of the UK very swiftly.

Not to mention the fact they've created mass unemployment.

Lugol · 23/06/2026 18:39

Beachbooks · 22/06/2026 12:27

Yes totally appreciate there are also expensive areas in the UK but the chat where I live seems to be that he will slap higher taxes on the SE and London just because it’s the SE and London

What, as some sort of penalty for being in the South? 😂

If the 'chat' round your way say it, it must be true. 🙄

Southerners must REALLY hate Northerners if you're thinking like this 😂

Get a grip OP.

BIossomtoes · 23/06/2026 18:32

Janet345 · 23/06/2026 18:27

What £2M house pays £1200 ct? If you look around in Europe, they either pay miniscule amounts compared to us or don’t pay it at all. The government should tax wealth and landowners (not small farmers) and certainly not wrack the middle classes further

If you live in a £2million house in Westminster you pay £1200 council tax. It’s the absolute maximum you can pay there.

Moii · 23/06/2026 18:31

Assuming he does become PM an election would be in around 2 years, hopefully that'll be the end of labour and he won't have time to implement it.

Janet345 · 23/06/2026 18:27

MrsPapillon · 22/06/2026 12:59

I’m paying £4000+ a year CT in the north for a 4 bed and receiving practically nothing in way of services in return. It’s about time London paid its fair share for all the wonderful things on offer there like excellent transport, museums and parks instead of owning a £2m house and paying £1200 a year. I’d welcome a land tax.

What £2M house pays £1200 ct? If you look around in Europe, they either pay miniscule amounts compared to us or don’t pay it at all. The government should tax wealth and landowners (not small farmers) and certainly not wrack the middle classes further

Buzzingabout · 23/06/2026 18:19

Well you are a socialist obviously and would say that.
Many have mortgages that they would not be able to afford and have to sell and move as the repayments would become unmanageable. I have worked very hard and saved all
my life. I am 84 and live in a four bed house so my grandchildren can stay and other friends from abroad. Instead of spending on flashy stuff I have driven an old Honda and bought clothes secondhand. And saved and invested. Now I have to give it to someone else. I am going to be taxed out now of my home and families and “hardworking people” can live here. I should be in a modest one bed somewhere. Wish I had spent every penny I earned and then I would be given a council flat and loads of freebies.
The hateful remarks I get from some is dreadful. Saying I should move out to a little flat. If I had a husband then it would be regarded as OK probably. Nobody would tell a couple they have to sell up.

Moii · 23/06/2026 18:18

I'm in the north west and worried about it. We have high earners on this estate who are part time because they lose to much if they earn over £100k (Dr) and people on part benefits who work part time because it's made up by housing benefits. It's crazy no one has an insentive to work full time.

MargoLivebetter · 23/06/2026 16:23

It is going to be interesting. He has been very open to private investment in Manchester from both UK and foreign investors. I wonder if he will bring that approach to Downing Street too, or if he will feel more constrained.

I don't even know who or what the 'London elites' are these days (and I say that as someone who works in the corporate world in central London). What is the current definition of a London elite?

poetryandwine · 23/06/2026 15:57

nearlylovemyusername · 23/06/2026 09:46

He repeatedly told that he's a Notherner guy and won't tolerate "London elites"

AB has gone on record with his belief that the Labour party is too ‘London centric’, most recently last month.

Large swathes of the South might agree.

He is on record over time as one of the more anti-elitist politicians of any stripe. Unlike Farage, he both walks the walk and talks the talk.

None of this suggests that he dislikes ordinary Southerners, Londoners or reporters.

What’s wrong with taking pride in your background, whether you are from Taunton or Kensington or Alderley Edge or Liverpool? Or indeed Blackpool?

TheWordWomanIsTaken · 23/06/2026 12:45

hairbearbunches · 22/06/2026 20:57

I just googled…

and a house worth £27 million has a council tax of £2095.

might be serious about asking these dudes to cough up a bit more, don’t you think?

Actually no.
Council Tax funds LOCAL services.
Why are you expecting someone who lives in a house in Westminster to fund services elsewhere? Council tax is collected from a higher density of housing in Westminster along with huge business rates from all the businesses there.
Now we can talk about changes but that is a different premise to Council Tax at present.
Which would be pretty galling for me as I have moved in the last year and paid stamp duty.

Seymour5 · 23/06/2026 12:29

AlpineMuesli · 23/06/2026 11:48

I assume that's not for SEND kids though? Not all children can tolerate bus trips.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2025/oct/31/soaring-costs-trigger-calls-to-address-transport-for-send-pupils-in-england

These costs have to be covered by everyone in the council area. It's just there's more 'everyone' in high density cities and the south.

Not SEND kids.