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Anyone else in the South East worried about Andy Burnham bringing in a land tax?

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Beachbooks · 22/06/2026 12:17

With it looking likely that Andy Burnhan will be the next PM, I was interested to see if anyone else in London / the south east were worried about potential tax raises specifically around the land tax rather than stamp duty ?

A lot of my friends who live locally are worrying that he will make the land tax for the South East so high in proportion to other areas of the UK that it will be financially very difficult to afford but then also extremely difficult to sell!!

BTW we have very standard house and garden but we live in an expensive area

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BIossomtoes · 24/06/2026 21:47

Boohoo76 · 24/06/2026 21:44

So why were you posting crap and insisting that council tax for the whole of London is lower?

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I posted a chart dated March 2026. On reflection that might have been the figures for 2025/26 which would explain the disparity. And even with Havering’s updated figure, it’s still less than a Band D where I live.

Boohoo76 · 24/06/2026 21:44

BIossomtoes · 24/06/2026 21:22

Neither.

So why were you posting crap and insisting that council tax for the whole of London is lower?

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 24/06/2026 21:43

DeedsNotDiddums · 24/06/2026 20:47

Are you blimmin serious!? I pay almost 4k and it's not a mansion by any means.

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@Boohoo76 and pp
have you both calculated your potential LVT

will they rise.?
I’m assuming boohoo given your stamp cost yours will.
Do you think people with similar properties will struggle and need to sell ?

Just wondering how widespread the problem will be
Everyone I know will see an increase … properties in Kent, Hamps and Watford. All detached or semis.

WatermelonForBreakfast · 24/06/2026 21:35

I live in SE and think it's probably fair to tax people with more land more. It's bonkers that someone with a tennis court, woodland, lake etc. pays the same top bracket.

However a consequence may be another factor driving house price growth in the north. So whole country will be complaining about the relative low wages (which is the main issue) and demanding innovation and job creation.

nearlylovemyusername · 24/06/2026 21:34

Boohoo76 · 24/06/2026 21:19

It’s wrong. I have checked the actual borough council tax page. Likewise for Redbridge.

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Yes, these rates are wrong. I live in one of London boroughs and I pay more.

Islington Council Tax Bands & Rates 2026/2027

Band D for 2025/26 is £2,012; 2026/27 - £2,108

@BIossomtoes link, which apparently was update in Mar 26, shows 1660. So difference of 27%. Where PP's numbers are coming from?

BIossomtoes · 24/06/2026 21:22

Neither.

Boohoo76 · 24/06/2026 21:21

So the question is Blossomtoes, are you being manipulated or are you one of the manipulators?

Boohoo76 · 24/06/2026 21:19

BIossomtoes · 24/06/2026 21:16

Not according to this.

https://taxbandcheck.co.uk/regions/london

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It’s wrong. I have checked the actual borough council tax page. Likewise for Redbridge.

Boohoo76 · 24/06/2026 21:18

BIossomtoes · 24/06/2026 17:42

The point is that some people in other areas are being manipulated into believing that everyone in London and the South East pays a lot less council tax than them.

There’s no manipulation necessary. The highest Band D in London is £2050. Band D where I live is £2531.

https://taxbandcheck.co.uk/regions/london

You might want to go onto the individual borough council tax pages and check the information. I have checked two and they are both much higher than this list.

Boohoo76 · 24/06/2026 21:11

BIossomtoes · 24/06/2026 20:10

Council tax is still lower in London. 🤷‍♀️

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London Borough of Havering Band D: £2,424.66

So no, it’s not lower across the whole of London.

Boohoo76 · 24/06/2026 21:06

BIossomtoes · 24/06/2026 21:01

Moving up the ladder is what people have always done.

No, not everyone. My PIL didn’t. They bought a 3 bed semi on one average salary and have lived in it for over 50 years. They paid zero stamp duty. Same for my parents although they did downsize to a small flat when my mum became seriously ill and they paid a very small amount of stamp duty on that. My PIL’s house is worth about £500k. There are very few first time buyers that can afford that now, even with two incomes.

BIossomtoes · 24/06/2026 21:01

Moving up the ladder is what people have always done.

Boohoo76 · 24/06/2026 20:58

BIossomtoes · 24/06/2026 20:53

If your house was £1.425 million - which it would if you paid £70k stamp duty - your income must be much healthier than mine.

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I said moving up the ladder, not for a single purchase. That’s what people do nowadays. My house is not worth anything like £1.4 million.

BIossomtoes · 24/06/2026 20:53

Boohoo76 · 24/06/2026 20:46

Your house has gone up four times in value and you are in band D. You didn’t pay much stamp duty. DH and I have paid £70k.

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If your house was £1.425 million - which it would if you paid £70k stamp duty - your income must be much healthier than mine.

BIossomtoes · 24/06/2026 20:50

Boohoo76 · 24/06/2026 20:46

Your house has gone up four times in value and you are in band D. You didn’t pay much stamp duty. DH and I have paid £70k.

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When did I say our house is Band D? The chart of London council tax uses Band D so I used the same band for comparison. I so wish we were Band D.

likelysuspect · 24/06/2026 20:48

MrsPapillon · 22/06/2026 12:59

I’m paying £4000+ a year CT in the north for a 4 bed and receiving practically nothing in way of services in return. It’s about time London paid its fair share for all the wonderful things on offer there like excellent transport, museums and parks instead of owning a £2m house and paying £1200 a year. I’d welcome a land tax.

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London keeps the country afloat.

OP I live in the south east, south east of London. I live in a very cheap housing area.

DeedsNotDiddums · 24/06/2026 20:47

GasPanic · 22/06/2026 12:27

It's always easy to sell. You just drop your price until it meets the market.

There is no shortage of demand for property in the SE.

There are plenty of people who want properties but can't afford them though because sellers price their property too high.

If Burnham does increase land taxes or council taxes then it will be a good thing IMO. Owners of large houses get away with paying far too little compared with other properties and they are an easy group to tax, so why not.

Everyone keeps saying how Labour should tax the rich more, and here is one easy way of doing it.

Are you blimmin serious!? I pay almost 4k and it's not a mansion by any means.

Boohoo76 · 24/06/2026 20:46

BIossomtoes · 24/06/2026 20:44

You didn’t need to say it three times. Obviously I paid stamp duty. I said marginally better off, not enough to notice.

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Your house has gone up four times in value and you are in band D. You didn’t pay much stamp duty. DH and I have paid £70k.

BIossomtoes · 24/06/2026 20:44

Boohoo76 · 24/06/2026 20:43

Yes while she is sitting there in a house that has gone up massively in value meaning she paid little or no stamp duty. But she wants people who have already paid much bigger amounts of stamp duty to pay even more tax. Plus she has admitted that she would be better off under this policy.

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You didn’t need to say it three times. Obviously I paid stamp duty. I said marginally better off, not enough to notice.

Boohoo76 · 24/06/2026 20:44

Sorry, didn’t mean to post three times. Having a problem with Mumsnet on my phone at the moment!

Boohoo76 · 24/06/2026 20:43

nearlylovemyusername · 24/06/2026 20:37

This poster just supports tax. Any tax, the more the better, on everything and anything and anyone. Without much understanding of what the tax is and its consequences. Read the above about IHG and CGT.

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Yes while she is sitting there in a house that has gone up massively in value meaning she paid little or no stamp duty. But she wants people who have already paid much bigger amounts of stamp duty to pay even more tax. Plus she has admitted that she would be better off under this policy.

Boohoo76 · 24/06/2026 20:43

nearlylovemyusername · 24/06/2026 20:37

This poster just supports tax. Any tax, the more the better, on everything and anything and anyone. Without much understanding of what the tax is and its consequences. Read the above about IHG and CGT.

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Yes while she is sitting there in a house that has gone up massively in value meaning she paid little or no stamp duty. But she wants people who have already paid much bigger amounts of stamp duty to pay even more tax. Plus she has admitted that she would be better off under this policy.

Boohoo76 · 24/06/2026 20:41

nearlylovemyusername · 24/06/2026 20:37

This poster just supports tax. Any tax, the more the better, on everything and anything and anyone. Without much understanding of what the tax is and its consequences. Read the above about IHG and CGT.

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Yes while she is sitting there in a house that has gone up massively in value meaning she paid little or no stamp duty. But she wants people who have already paid much bigger amounts of stamp duty to pay even more tax. Plus she has admitted that she would be better off under this policy.

BIossomtoes · 24/06/2026 20:41

TopPocketFind · 24/06/2026 20:39

Are you the poster usually attacking her on maths skills?

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No, that’s another one.