Witnessed fight and nobody did anything

The police try not to get involved with travellers, they were probably very relieved they did not have to attend.

Have you any awareness of how women in the travelling community talk about these kind of attacks to anyone trying to get a prosecution on their behalf?

check it out, so you can understand what ‘ downplaying’ is.

As a traveller myself, thanks for calling the police i hope she gets help

Do you mean ‘I’m sorry I downplayed an attack on a woman that could have killed by calling it a ‘fight, and thank you for your feedback’?

You are saying it’s not being downplayed whilst using language that downplays it.

I can move on but I would ask that you just pause and consider it before you do.

He wanted you to get off the phone as he didnt want your house and family targeted. As much as I hate saying it, the safest thing to do is keep out of it and you have to do what is safe for your family

Was his reluctance due to them being travellers and you clearly being stood in the doorway of your home - so they know where you live.

I'd be disappointed by police - however, the woman is entitled to press charges at any point and will obviously have a good case if it was witnessed by so many.

I was gonna say the same.

ok we can note your objection and move on, thread wise, can’t we?

I object, strongly, to it being called a ‘fight’. It was an attack on a woman that required several men to stop. He could have killed her had they not managed to sit in him.

Especially when you’re at home. Call the police and let them come. If I thought they were travellers I wouldn’t have shown my face. As much as I would’ve wanted to help her.

I like to think I would try and help in most situations like this but to be honest I would be too frightened of reprisals to help if it was the travelling community. I know that’s terrible but that’s the reality.

It’s a hard one actually. In principle yes your husband could’ve or should’ve done something.

however if they were from the traveller community, I wouldn’t. It’s uncomfortable to say that but I wouldn’t. A lot of them don’t give a shit and can be extremely violent to anyone who crosses them. I have spoken to many abused women from the travelling community and spoke to many victims of some of their violence. It’s why the police rarely do something about them. It’s fear. Remember the police officer they dragged to his death?

She isn’t saying that. She is dismayed (and rightly so in my opinion) that he was dissuading her from calling the police.

I live near 3 pubs and the violence off the scale and a fight happened most weekends, for about 8 years. I once helped a guy who was hit randomly on the head with a garden chair from the pub, twice, and bleeding massively outside my front door, not long after we moved here. While I stemmed the bleeding, covered him in a blanket and waiting for an ambulance and the police, another fight started right by us, I couldn't believe it. Ambulance took an hour and a 15 year old policeman turned up after 40 mins, totally uninterested.

I no longer get involved, if they want to smash each other up, go for it, it's not safe out there. I will call 999 and that's it. The police and the council had zero interest in the whole area until covid but they are quicker now if called because of the neighbours getting together and demanding a change and some CCTV. Tbh, the worst pub's landlord lost his licence and it changed hands and things got better. The kids with their cocaine have pretty much gone, for now.

I think you’re taking the posts in a way that is unintentional. Domestic violence is also endemic, as endemic as men fighting each other, and particularly so in the traveller community.
No one is justifying or downplaying it, we are telling op (as she asked) why people don’t do anything.

“A woman is dragged from the scrap and becomes clear it's all about one bloke against the woman. He manages to pin her up against the fence, (others trying to hold him back) and he headbuts her properly.”

This is NOT a ‘brawl’ or a ‘fight’ - it is a man attacking a woman.

Honestly, this would be my worry.

Was your DH worried that the amount of info you were giving might mean youd be involved as a witness at some point?

I was threatened with my home being set on fire the first and only time I was a witness to an assault so I kind of understand his reluctance for you to have been more involved than just reporting a fight/assault on X street.

My friend called the police when some bloke attacked her boyfriend on the street after the pub . Just walked up and started punching him then kicking him once he was down. The call handler said they’d send someone but when the assailant walked away they said they’d wouldn’t ( the operator was watching on cctv by that point) he could come to police station and make a statement if he wanted.

This was NOT ‘a fight’ it was a man attacking a woman and other men trying to stop him. It’s not a fight or brawl between equals.

A man headbutted a woman!!!

Exactly. They are a law unto themselves. I work in a supermarket in Ireland and they were at it again in the middle of the supermarket a few days ago.

I once rang the police in a similar situation. I was then threatened with violence by the same woman who was originally having her head stomped on because her boyfriend was now facing prison time.

What baffles me is all the women who say “DH didn’t do anything, didn’t try to stop them” … well why didn’t you? Why don’t you go out there and stop 10 men beating up a woman? Even if it’s one man. Instead of expecting someone else to do it and then complaining and questioning your marriage, why don’t you do something other than yelling down a phone from the safety of your home.

That’s not ‘fighting amongst themselves’ - that’s a bigger, stronger man (most likely) head butting a smaller weaker woman. She wasn’t able to fight back in any meaningful way. It’s domestic abuse. It’s not just a brawl between equals.

Look this is not going to be popular but if it's travelers the Police don't tend to get involved because literally you and your husband's house would be attacked, you would be attacked by them, they would get on a phone and there would be hundreds turning up.

When there is a traveler funeral here all the businesses shut down even the GPS surgery shuts down because one slight kick off and you literally have hundreds of them kicking off smashing everything up the police are not capable or don't have a number to deal with it so they cannot get involved