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AIBU to feel the media is pushing Starmer out?

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Ihatethistimeline · 22/06/2026 08:08

To feel the media is forcing Starmer out and to be annoyed by this.

They need constant drama and content and this is done at the expense of the country. Starmer is boring but things are improving despite major problems like Iran in the background.

If this were 20 years ago he’d have been safe. They are treating government like football clubs and want Burnham as they think he’s more showbiz. These foreign owner media outlets don’t care about the stability of this country, they just want headlines and drama on X to drum up more drama for headlines and opinion pieces where the media all interview each other.

The country is becoming ungovernable because them and I’m sick of it.

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PenelopePinkerton · 22/06/2026 12:34

Mangelwurzelfortea · 22/06/2026 11:19

You're not a lifelong Labour supporter then, you actually only support them when they're doing exactly what you want.

Part of being in a broad church - like Labour or indeed the Tories - is supporting them even when their leadership doesn't exactly align with what you want.

Yes, I was a lifelong supporter. Not anymore.

BlueFahrenheit · 22/06/2026 12:32

IslandAdventure · 22/06/2026 12:29

‘Demand’?’ Yes. That will do it.

This is why the system is broken.

Absent parents not contributing to the children they decided to have.

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 12:31

We do need to start taking rights off absent parents who refuse to pay adequate maintenance, taking the money directly from their wages and benefit and handing it over to the main carer.

Cantfindafreeusername · 22/06/2026 12:31

Ihatethistimeline · 22/06/2026 08:08

To feel the media is forcing Starmer out and to be annoyed by this.

They need constant drama and content and this is done at the expense of the country. Starmer is boring but things are improving despite major problems like Iran in the background.

If this were 20 years ago he’d have been safe. They are treating government like football clubs and want Burnham as they think he’s more showbiz. These foreign owner media outlets don’t care about the stability of this country, they just want headlines and drama on X to drum up more drama for headlines and opinion pieces where the media all interview each other.

The country is becoming ungovernable because them and I’m sick of it.

Are you for real????? He’s just delivered record debt levels (in the billions!!!!) and we now pay out more in welfare than is received in tax and that’s without anything else!! The country is on its knees starmer has had more than enough time to make a difference but he’s failed so same as if you were in any other job you fail you go!!! I’m glad he gone

BlueFahrenheit · 22/06/2026 12:29

IslandAdventure · 22/06/2026 12:27

😂😂😂

As you can see. My point is that needing benefits is not synonymous with ‘feckless’ behaviour. They are to support people when they need it. Some will abuse that. Just like some rich people abuse the tax loopholes.

FYI. I have left an abusive marriage and am not in a position to ask him anything.

Peoples lives are complicated and complex and the reasons for poverty are multifaceted and complex and not just down to individual actions.

Unfortunate; however, your ex-husband should not be allowed to not contribute. It should be mandatory.

IslandAdventure · 22/06/2026 12:29

BlueFahrenheit · 22/06/2026 12:25

Am I missing the common denominator here?

Demand that your ex-husband pay more.

I mean, good gracious, what is so hard to understand?

‘Demand’?’ Yes. That will do it.

BlueFahrenheit · 22/06/2026 12:27

IslandAdventure · 22/06/2026 12:23

So - dear - tell me this;

Jeff Bezos made his money setting up Amazon. He needs his minimum wage workers to keep his business going. So we will always need unskilled, low paid jobs to be filled.

With AI there will be fewer and fewer jobs.

So we have and will continue to have vast swathes of people on low wages or unemployed. Cost of living set to continue to rise. Some will be able to improve their finances and some won’t.

For those that can’t - they either forfeit their right to have a family or we accept that there will be more and more children living in poverty?

Thats your stance?

This concoction, I have no interest in responding to.

Having a child in poverty is not the solution.

HelenaWaiting · 22/06/2026 12:27

Fallbuy · 22/06/2026 08:59

I’m inclined to say the media are just following public opinion, and public opinion is led by ill-informed morons with no critical thinking skills and the attention span of a two year old.

Actually, it's the other way round. Numpties thinking what the media tells them to think. There's an easy fix, but no government has been brave enough to do it.

IslandAdventure · 22/06/2026 12:27

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 12:19

Exactly. Ask your ex to give you enough to support his kids. Why bring us into it?

😂😂😂

As you can see. My point is that needing benefits is not synonymous with ‘feckless’ behaviour. They are to support people when they need it. Some will abuse that. Just like some rich people abuse the tax loopholes.

FYI. I have left an abusive marriage and am not in a position to ask him anything.

Peoples lives are complicated and complex and the reasons for poverty are multifaceted and complex and not just down to individual actions.

BlueFahrenheit · 22/06/2026 12:25

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 12:19

Exactly. Ask your ex to give you enough to support his kids. Why bring us into it?

Am I missing the common denominator here?

Demand that your ex-husband pay more.

I mean, good gracious, what is so hard to understand?

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 12:23

Batsratscatsgnats · 22/06/2026 12:20

Well they dont need 'income' do they? So they use their wealth as collateral to borrow money - so it shows as debt rather than income - to buy whatever they like. It IS income in everything but name. But yet they dont get taxed on it the same way anyone else would. THAT loophole.

And when the position is unwound? Because if it isn’t ever unwound this sounds very much like the loan charge, which ended in a very sticky manner.

IslandAdventure · 22/06/2026 12:23

BlueFahrenheit · 22/06/2026 12:07

It's not the most sensible idea, dear.

Perhaps, improve your finances first?

So - dear - tell me this;

Jeff Bezos made his money setting up Amazon. He needs his minimum wage workers to keep his business going. So we will always need unskilled, low paid jobs to be filled.

With AI there will be fewer and fewer jobs.

So we have and will continue to have vast swathes of people on low wages or unemployed. Cost of living set to continue to rise. Some will be able to improve their finances and some won’t.

For those that can’t - they either forfeit their right to have a family or we accept that there will be more and more children living in poverty?

Thats your stance?

Homelanders · 22/06/2026 12:20

DH and I have had such horrible horrible years together. There were many years of fighting, arguing. So many issues. But we stayed for the kids and after a few decades (30 years now) we are doing so much better

Batsratscatsgnats · 22/06/2026 12:20

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 11:38

And. He had no income. Same thing works here. But when you make a gain not a loss, that gets taxed too.

which ‘loopholes’ do you see UK billionaires using? Interested to hear! Seeing as there are none!

Well they dont need 'income' do they? So they use their wealth as collateral to borrow money - so it shows as debt rather than income - to buy whatever they like. It IS income in everything but name. But yet they dont get taxed on it the same way anyone else would. THAT loophole.

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 12:19

BlueFahrenheit · 22/06/2026 12:15

Therefore, the child maintenance that your ex-husband pays to you is not enough.

Why is this someone else's responsibility?

Exactly. Ask your ex to give you enough to support his kids. Why bring us into it?

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 12:17

If we look at Kemi she said two things recently that I really respected. The said testing puberty blockers on children is abhorrent and she thinks the trial should be stopped, and that Jewish people living in the UK should be allowed to live in peace. You can agree with these policies or not, but they’ll be unpopular with some but she wasn’t afraid to say it. It’s what she thinks and what her values are.

Contrast with Keir. He said the agricultural IHT exemption ought to be removed, and the WFA ought to be withdrawn too. Both of which are laudable policies (the agricultural IHT exemption had been used as a vast loophole) but despite having lots of advisers they could help him design these changes in a fair way (that didn’t hit genuine farmers or genuinely poor pensioners) he ignored all advice and ploughed in in a totally cack handed manner. Then had to u turn in an equally cack handed manner, leaving schemes that don’t really work properly still. It looked really incompetent and fogs whatever he was trying to achieve. Keir was just disappointingly poor at implementing successful policies.

FizzyPopLove · 22/06/2026 12:17

x2boys · 22/06/2026 08:13

Starmer himself waa incredibly sanctimonious when he was the leader of the oppostion , telling Boris et al they should resign
You reap what you sow.

Sanctimonious? Boris was partying during Covid. Calling that out is not sanctimonious.

BlueFahrenheit · 22/06/2026 12:15

IslandAdventure · 22/06/2026 12:13

I get CMS. But having gone from no mortgage and half bills to rent and full bills, CMS and Child Benefit are essential.

Therefore, the child maintenance that your ex-husband pays to you is not enough.

Why is this someone else's responsibility?

Homelanders · 22/06/2026 12:14

Becs51 · 22/06/2026 12:07

So their wealth being what then? Stocks and share? Taxed on the income to buy them and taxed on the interest made, taxed when you sell them. Property? Pay stamp duty when you buy and additional stamp duty on 2nd or more properties. Additional council tax on second homes, if properties are rented then tax on income. Taxed capital gains when you sell. Assets like cars pay tax on purchase like everyone else.
radical thought, reduce taxes and encourage the wealthy to return or stay. They then put more into the economy by employing people in their homes and business who then pay tax, they spend their money in the UK rather than overseas and it boosts the economy creating more jobs which then leads to more tax income.
the vast majority of today’s wealth is created through individuals working flipping hard to build businesses and do well for themselves and their family. Long gone are the days of inherited wealth.

Again, you're not supposed to enjoy your fruits of your hard work in their country.

WhisperingHi · 22/06/2026 12:13

YANBU. We’re walking into a humanitarian disaster. This culture of bullying leaders out needs to end.

How is it just, that Kier got the hate he did, get Trump seems untouchable after the atrocities he’s done? The sexism, racism, the antagonism and pure stupidity - yet he seems like Teflon.

If we allow this to continue as a country and world, our children will experience the crimes and fear this brings. I want my kids to grow up in a country that supports its vulnerable, grows and invests as an economy in ethical practices and, above all, feels optimistic and kind. There’s too much hatred around now.

IslandAdventure · 22/06/2026 12:13

BlueFahrenheit · 22/06/2026 12:11

Is your ex-husband not providing for you?

I get CMS. But having gone from no mortgage and half bills to rent and full bills, CMS and Child Benefit are essential.

senua · 22/06/2026 12:12

AlliWantIsARoomSomewheeeere · 22/06/2026 12:05

No one cares about your anti-trans rhetoric on this thread. bore off really.
Intersex people exist. They can choose which gender they feel is right for them based on the own individual biological and how they feel about it.

I'm not anti-trans, I'm pro women's rights.
I don't care what gender you are but I do care what sex you are, it could have a massive impact on my safety.
And what has intersex (outdated term) got to do with anything?Confused

IslandAdventure · 22/06/2026 12:12

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 12:04

Yes of course. What do they expect to do if they lost their job or were unable to work through disability?

Wow.

Londonrach1 · 22/06/2026 12:11

Sadly I agree with you op.

BlueFahrenheit · 22/06/2026 12:11

IslandAdventure · 22/06/2026 12:07

if you can’t afford to have kids you shouldn’t have them = only the wealthy/privileged should have them.

So when I had my DC I was married. I didn’t need child support. Now I’m a single parent, I rely on it. I’m not feckless at all.

Is your ex-husband not providing for you?