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AIBU to feel the media is pushing Starmer out?

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Ihatethistimeline · 22/06/2026 08:08

To feel the media is forcing Starmer out and to be annoyed by this.

They need constant drama and content and this is done at the expense of the country. Starmer is boring but things are improving despite major problems like Iran in the background.

If this were 20 years ago he’d have been safe. They are treating government like football clubs and want Burnham as they think he’s more showbiz. These foreign owner media outlets don’t care about the stability of this country, they just want headlines and drama on X to drum up more drama for headlines and opinion pieces where the media all interview each other.

The country is becoming ungovernable because them and I’m sick of it.

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lovecotswoldsliving · 22/06/2026 13:41

I think his own party got him out. No one else.

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 13:34

Dragonscaledaisy · 22/06/2026 13:30

Continuing to peddle this rubbish will guarantee Nigel Farage a win at the next GE.

It’s not Labour’s fault they keep promising the earth and going through with wildly unpopular policies, it’s ’the Media’s’

Dragonscaledaisy · 22/06/2026 13:30

Imseriouslyyouguys · 22/06/2026 09:59

Because of the media.

Continuing to peddle this rubbish will guarantee Nigel Farage a win at the next GE.

Swiftie1878 · 22/06/2026 13:30

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 22/06/2026 13:27

The media are. It’s plural.

Collective singular. But thanks for making me think.

LuckyHazelFox · 22/06/2026 13:29

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 13:27

Starmer was sunk because the backbenchers wouldn’t support him. Burnham is sunk because the backbenchers will support him and he has idiotic ideas.

Plus his refusal to give straight answers to the Mandelson inquiry.

BlueFahrenheit · 22/06/2026 13:28

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 13:20

I don’t want to derail this thread any more than you do but the trans issue is massive because of what it says about the politician. Transwomen are men. Scientific fact. Any politician who says otherwise if gas lighting. And any politician who thinks trans women should have access to women’s single sex spaces hasn’t got the competence to think about it from the womens rights point of view. They just jumped upon a trendy idea and spouted it without the merest of thought. Is that a good thing in a PM? No of course not.

Absolutely.

To imply he didn't know what a woman was is shambolic and weak. Pandering to ill-thought-out intentions to degrade women.

EasternStandard · 22/06/2026 13:28

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 22/06/2026 13:27

The media are. It’s plural.

She’s right though. Labour need to stop using the media as an excuse.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 22/06/2026 13:27

Swiftie1878 · 22/06/2026 08:49

What a load of nonsense. The media is simply reporting what is happening.
The Labour Party’s two factions are eating each other alive.

The media are. It’s plural.

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 13:27

Starmer was sunk because the backbenchers wouldn’t support him. Burnham is sunk because the backbenchers will support him and he has idiotic ideas.

Sausagenbacon · 22/06/2026 13:25

The problem isn't the media, it's a load of fuckwit labour MPs who are too stupid to see that AB has no magic bullet.
And i'm not a KS supporter, in general.

BlueFahrenheit · 22/06/2026 13:24

IslandAdventure · 22/06/2026 13:20

My post about my situation was to provide an example of claiming benefits not being about feckless behaviour. The word ‘feckless’ was used in this thread. That’s why I have used it.

I would have NEVER been able to predict what had happened to me. Neither would you. What you are doing right now is victim blaming. It says much more about you than it does me.

I waited until I had the most financial and emotional stability possible to have DC. i married a man whose outward persona was exceptionally well put together and I had no idea that he would become what he has become. I have worked really hard to maintain my income and be the best parent I could. I look after my health. I have a good pension. I have good income protection built into my job. But right now, the £108 per month child benefit (that all parents earning under 50,000 a year get), is very much needed and appreciated. I make zero apology for that. I fully support my taxes being used to support others who need it.

Taxing the wealthy remains the most sensible solution to our economic situation as a country in my eyes. And Starmer has been ousted by the press because they are owned by millionaires who don’t care what state the country is in because they are alright Jack. I hope his replacement can be a steady pair of hands at least.

Anyway I’m off down the shops to grab me fags and booze, before I head off to the pub tonight to shag random blokes without protection and get myself knocked up again so I can claim more benefits. I’ll let you know how it goes!

And, as I said, let's increase the taxes for the parents like your ex-husband who choose not to contribute to the family they created.

I stand firmly on this view rather than being emotional.

LuckyHazelFox · 22/06/2026 13:23

Reallyneedsaholiday · 22/06/2026 13:19

Starmers only real crime is that he doesn't have a lot of charisma. Some of his policies have been "well meaning" but haven't been thought through properly, before implementing them. But the media are absolutely to blame for highlighting ANY negatives and ignoring the positives. They pander to the right wing parties, who put money in their pockets, with a heavy bias. Its why no left wing government will ever survive. People read headlines, and blindly believe them, without questioning the facts.

So if Burnham fails it won't be because he is not for for purpose it will be because of the media. If only Boris Johnson had been afforded the same benefit. They both made mistakes so rightly they were highlighted.

EasternStandard · 22/06/2026 13:22

alwaysdream · 22/06/2026 13:19

Ffs - they even have drones in the sky now filming the train Andy Burnham is coming down to London on 😆

Ha

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 13:20

Crocsarentslippers · 22/06/2026 12:56

Absolutely nowhere near the most important issue facing the country.

Complete stupidity to judge a PM on this issue.

I don’t want to derail this thread any more than you do but the trans issue is massive because of what it says about the politician. Transwomen are men. Scientific fact. Any politician who says otherwise if gas lighting. And any politician who thinks trans women should have access to women’s single sex spaces hasn’t got the competence to think about it from the womens rights point of view. They just jumped upon a trendy idea and spouted it without the merest of thought. Is that a good thing in a PM? No of course not.

IslandAdventure · 22/06/2026 13:20

BlueFahrenheit · 22/06/2026 13:02

It's a big solution to the problem. Parents would think of the ramifications of who they have kids with.

I never said those claiming benefits were feckless.

My post about my situation was to provide an example of claiming benefits not being about feckless behaviour. The word ‘feckless’ was used in this thread. That’s why I have used it.

I would have NEVER been able to predict what had happened to me. Neither would you. What you are doing right now is victim blaming. It says much more about you than it does me.

I waited until I had the most financial and emotional stability possible to have DC. i married a man whose outward persona was exceptionally well put together and I had no idea that he would become what he has become. I have worked really hard to maintain my income and be the best parent I could. I look after my health. I have a good pension. I have good income protection built into my job. But right now, the £108 per month child benefit (that all parents earning under 50,000 a year get), is very much needed and appreciated. I make zero apology for that. I fully support my taxes being used to support others who need it.

Taxing the wealthy remains the most sensible solution to our economic situation as a country in my eyes. And Starmer has been ousted by the press because they are owned by millionaires who don’t care what state the country is in because they are alright Jack. I hope his replacement can be a steady pair of hands at least.

Anyway I’m off down the shops to grab me fags and booze, before I head off to the pub tonight to shag random blokes without protection and get myself knocked up again so I can claim more benefits. I’ll let you know how it goes!

alwaysdream · 22/06/2026 13:19

Ffs - they even have drones in the sky now filming the train Andy Burnham is coming down to London on 😆

Reallyneedsaholiday · 22/06/2026 13:19

Starmers only real crime is that he doesn't have a lot of charisma. Some of his policies have been "well meaning" but haven't been thought through properly, before implementing them. But the media are absolutely to blame for highlighting ANY negatives and ignoring the positives. They pander to the right wing parties, who put money in their pockets, with a heavy bias. Its why no left wing government will ever survive. People read headlines, and blindly believe them, without questioning the facts.

JoyousOpalLemur · 22/06/2026 13:18

The BBC doing to Burnham now what they did to Starmer.

A vox pop in which everyone on the street was a fan of Burnham 🤔

Numbchill · 22/06/2026 13:15

IslandAdventure · 22/06/2026 12:37

What is the solution?

Workhouses? Child labour? Hanging for stealing an apple? Eugenics? Gas chambers? Poor houses? Slums?

You tell me how a family who have two parents without many qualifications (due to their childhood growing up in deprivation/neglect), working full time hours a week, minimum wage, only just making ends meet, cost of living spiralling, can improve their situation?

Trickle down economics doesn’t work.
Social inequality causes everyone to have poorer mental health (even the wealthiest)
inequality increases crime and poor health which cost the state but in different ways.
The reasons for poverty are multi layered and multi systemic.

Taxing the wealthiest is the only sensible step if we want a more equal, civilised and thriving society like we built post WWII.

Why do you think taxing the wealthy will increase the tax take when in other countries it has been tried it was found to do the opposite? Why would we be different? Tax wonks (IFS, Dan Neidle etc) say it’s a really, really terrible idea that will do a lot of damage.

FairKoala · 22/06/2026 13:14

Crocsarentslippers · 22/06/2026 12:56

Absolutely nowhere near the most important issue facing the country.

Complete stupidity to judge a PM on this issue.

It’s about judging someone who is supposed to be the leader of a country on their lack of general knowledge.

Surely if they don’t know the basics then maybe their lacking in this type of knowledge has led to the country to be in the state it is

Happyjoe · 22/06/2026 13:10

LuckyHazelFox · 22/06/2026 13:06

That doesn't change my standpoint when it comes to protecting women and girls. I am not surprised he showed poor judgement. It became a pattern so I don't need to be told what I should and shouldn't think. Thank you.

Where did I say what you should think?
Thank you.

BlueFahrenheit · 22/06/2026 13:08

LuckyHazelFox · 22/06/2026 13:06

That doesn't change my standpoint when it comes to protecting women and girls. I am not surprised he showed poor judgement. It became a pattern so I don't need to be told what I should and shouldn't think. Thank you.

Considering Keir is married to a woman, you would think he would know what one is.

No backbone.

LuckyHazelFox · 22/06/2026 13:06

Happyjoe · 22/06/2026 13:01

Yes you can. But the law now says different so your point outdated.

That doesn't change my standpoint when it comes to protecting women and girls. I am not surprised he showed poor judgement. It became a pattern so I don't need to be told what I should and shouldn't think. Thank you.

BlueFahrenheit · 22/06/2026 13:04

IslandAdventure · 22/06/2026 12:55

And if he couldn’t work? Let’s imagine (just for shits and giggles) he loses his cognitive function due to a brain injury?

What then? What’s your solution to mean that I no longer need to claim child support?

You still receive the benefit, as is.

No brain injury = he should be forced to pay a higher rate or be taxed more.

Why tax the rest of us?

FairKoala · 22/06/2026 13:04

Ihatethistimeline · 22/06/2026 08:35

I don’t think Starmer is in the same category as Johnson who was only second to Truss in regard to incompetence.

Theresa May, Rishi Sunak and now Starmer were driven out by the media for drama, engagement and clicks for podcasts where media figures interview each other on manufactured drama.

Boris I think was also driven out by the media.
They reported about Partygate and the uk and world didn’t care so they reported it again and again and again. Even Russia invading Ukraine was a hurried side note as the credits were coming up because they had spent so much time on Boris and Partygate. A year later it was still headline news

If you take a step back and watch the news in a critical manner instead of eating up everything you are served you will notice an agenda. Report once and it doesn’t raise a ripple. Report it every single day till someone gets what they want

Then they go onto another story

Next time you watch the news really listen for a piece of news that hasn’t been on the news before.
Very little is new news

Talking to someone who did journalism but found it tough I was surprised at how little critical thinking and general lack of knowledge about laws and legislation they had.

They only recognised a story if it had been picked up by main stream media and then got discouraged because there was nothing they could add to the story.

I immediately pointed out a piece they could write about

A trend that I noticed that certain companies do that is actually against the law. But apparently I am not qualified to know about laws or understand what things mean because I don’t have a degree in journalism or the law so it doesn’t count.

You couldn’t make it up but there again neither could they.