Childbirth: "a disgusting moment"

I’m remembering the American attaché in ‘Good Omens’.

Theres a good reason we like to have the French around, so we can take the mick or just say how disgusting they are with the dislike of amphibians and snails, and they can do that french shrug and say ‘les anglais are de stupide ones, hey, you did the brexite non?’

Pleased to report my dh made himself useful catching 1 baby swimming up out of a birth pool and being handed both quickly by slowly-looking-more-horrified staff as I had big haemorrhages.

Whoever it was on pg 2 who said men need to be more aware of the risks women run had it right.

It’s pretty common actually. There are swathes of studies that show that the average father does a lot less than the average mother.

so well done on having a good one- I can see why you’re smug about it.

but maybe consider that most women go into pregnancy also thinking they have chosen a decent father. The only way of really knowing is through experience. And not all men rise to the challenge

@bojo7
Ah, mr perron
A true humanist in your 'macho"world of football
I take it that
You're either single for whatever reason
Or
Have yet to achieve fatherhood status yourself?

Or they should have planned their family better so that she wasn’t likely to go into labour during the World Cup

My husband was useless and so was I.

Precipitate labour meant I had zero control over my movements etc. It all happened so quickly.

The only thing I recall from my 90m start to finish labour was my husband saying, "go go go go go" and my pulling the gas out of my mouth long enough to tell him to shut up. The issue was not the lack of go go go!

You should? I had absolutely horrendous childbirths.. twice. I rate childbirth zero stars. Do not recommend. Definitely the absolute worst experience of my life.. twice. Rated number 1 and 2 on the most horrific things I have experienced.

Isn’t it their career, rather than a ‘hobby’? So it’s working in a different country rather than foregoing your local Sunday league football match? I think it’s only fair to compare like with like, whichever side of the debate you are on.

My DH was wonderful - couldn’t fault or replace him. But….i might make an exception to someone playing in the World Cup. Think I would have tried to be stationed where they were playing.

Women tended to have quicker and easier births in the days when they were on all fours scrubbing floors!! The muscles used to squat are the same that women use in labour.

My apologies @AprilMizzel 💐

Sorry to hear you had a horrible experience. Not all woman do. We should work towards making birthing experience good for all women and children. We need a lot of understanding for pregnant women and the whole birth and postpartum process.

My dh is a dick at times but omg he was amazing during childbirth, absolute rock. Stayed calm, held me, was utterly encouraging. He says nothing more amazing than being handed tiny newborn. He held dc first as I want very well.
If this footballers wife died during childbirth (yes it does happen) he would never forgive himself

Exactly, it’s his career and his wife knew this when she married him.

I agree with her. Luckily, my DH wasn’t interested in being at the hospital when I had any of my 3, because I didn’t want anyone there unless they were medically necessary. A husband would just have been in the way..about as much use as a chocolate fire guard /teapot . He’d pulled enough lambs and calves into the world to want to see any birth he didn’t need to. 🤣🤣🤣

It's not a sport or hobby. It is his living. It is also a great honour to represent your country.
He should have turned down his place on the team if his family was more important. Lots of footballers would love the place

So was my ex- in fact he was abusive especially the second time round. My current husband was wonderful though and while I could have and would have managed fine without him giving birth I’m so happy he got to see our daughter’s birth and I was grateful to have him supporting me.

This is a completely personal decision to this man and his partner. I’m sure participating in the World Cup must have been a life long dream for him so the fact he’s apparently chosen being there for the birth of his child shows how important it is to him.

Sorry - I'm dyslexic (have posted about previously) and clearly not paying enough attention to spelling as doing something else at same time.

Hmmm my husband was exactly the opposite from totally useless at the birth of my children especially my second where he caught him in his sack as he shot out of me whilst trying to climb into a birthing pool then literally catching me when I passed out in shock after nearly landing on the baby and my husband 😆😆 so yeah totally unreasonable to
think he shouldn’t be there

The player plays for Belgium, but the journalist who made the comments is French, I think, hence posters have commented on French culture/opinions.

Also, sorry to be a twat but people/language/culture from Belgium are Belgian. It’s a common error, in part because so many shops label their pastry products ‘Belgium buns’ 😩

Regarding the “he’s only 24 and got plenty more opportunities to play in future world cups”, well not necessarily. A lot can change in 4 years. There are thousands of players who only played in a single tournament. Belgium is not exactly a footballing powerhouse and there is no guarantee they’ll qualify for the next WC or that he’ll be good enough to be selected in 2030.

I’m biased because I love football but in this specific case I personally wouldn’t want my DH to fly all the way back from the USA for the birth. If Belgium progress to the next round I’d be gutted for him if he missed out. The baby won’t know either way and if they go on to have more he can be present at future births.

And I wouldn’t call it ‘disgusting’ but childbirth is grim.

Totally agree!!! Humans are a plague on the earth and cause nearly all the damage!!!

A father who is there for their child and is present throughout its life is far more important than being at the birth. Obviously, most men are at the birth, but I don’t think men who are not are automatically going to make bad fathers.

We don't have to suffer that burden in most of the world these days. Stop martyring yourselves when it's a choice. If the human race dies out so be it, most of us wouldn't care. Meanwhile there are plenty of children in need of adopting so you can opt out of terrible childbirth.

I'm in two minds here. My Ex-husband was at the births of all three of our children, and he was very happy to be part of them. However if he'd been selected to play for his country at the WC, I'd have excused him TBH.