To ask why there are no riots?

Two or more truths can exist at once.

I abhor and fully condemn the actions of those grooming gangs. I want them to be removed from society so that they are not able to repeat these behaviours. I would want a life sentence given because I think living with the trauma of having been SA in any way can be a life sentence in itself. Memories can be lived with and recovered from, but never erased.

I also believe that the abuse of vulnerable girls and women is not just located in one group of society. I believe that there has been a long history of women being seen as the property of men and it isn’t that long ago that in this country (UK), laws have changed to protect women in marriages from physical and S abuse. Other countries are in front of us in this respect and others are behind. We probably need even more robust laws to tackle violence and abuse against women. But it is laws and the law, and the best use of and development of that, that is needed. Not racist thuggery.

I also believe that some rich and powerful people are using racism, stirring up division and hate and using the experiences of victims to further their own agenda. Get more rich and powerful. They are creating a narrative that is allowing people to feel that they can ‘other’ certain races/cultures/religions and demean and condemn them as a whole, using the actions of a few to bolster that approach. This then is leading to racist attacks on the ground and innocent people are living in fear and being harmed.

I also believe that we are in WWIII and repeating the history that led to WWII and that every single one of us has a duty to try and avoid things panning out the same way.

Yes. A more pertinent question OP could have asked is ‘why are there no riots’ about this and the facts that many of these racist perpetrators remain unprosecuted?

In fact the government have deliberately made prosecution harder by allowing the destruction of many of the relevant documents.

And let’s think about why the total number of victims remains contested but could be up to 250,000 cases in the limited information available. It is because no one has bothered to investigate the majority of them.

Imagine the government’s reaction if a load of white men were targeting Muslim girls for rape and torture? Why don’t our girls even get a police investigation and their paperwork stored?

This whole situation on it’s own and the way it is treated by the government is a billion times more divisive and destructive to our society than any so called ‘right wing’ activists could dream up.

But we’re the bad guys right @Firetreev ?

From the link, the man arrested appears to have smashed few windows.

Not quite the same level as trying to hack a stranger’s head off in a public street.

Where are you getting your information from? What makes you trust it?

The grooming gangs are horrific and I am in full agreement that any men using abusing vulnerable girls in this way should have the full force of the law brought upon them.

But as someone who has worked with those vulnerable cohorts of girls, I can tell you that the grooming and abuse is absolutely not sitting just in one race. It’s men of all creeds and colours.

‘Us’?

And by ‘us’ you mean?

I focused on the bit that interests me.

Where are you getting your information from? What makes you trust it?

The grooming gangs are horrific and I am in full agreement that any men using abusing vulnerable girls in this way should have the full force of the law brought upon them.

But as someone who has worked with those vulnerable cohorts of girls, I can tell you that the grooming and abuse is absolutely not sitting just in one race. It’s men of all creeds and colours.

That's all you can muster from that post!

‘Them’.

Wow. Your racist is fully on show isn’t it.

Do you mean like Keir Starmer and his government creating division and tension with his demonstrably different actions depending on the ethnicity/religion of perpetrators and victims?

dog whistling the racism that lurks beneath the surface of more white people than I want to imagine

Interesting negative generalisation against white people though. Ironic that you’re making accusations against us of racism.

lol they did they had and have no regard for anyone else but themselves. If they took notice they’d of seen my child was stood close to the swans etc and was looking and talking about them to me and my mother. Then in comes that group directly in front of us so they were around 3 steps from the swans and didn’t give a flying shit so I went round them again and to add to this if they were stood before me there I would not of let myself or my child step infront and not care that they were stood observing first. It’s common knowledge you do that. Not to mention the fully grown adult groups of them on days out at the zoo and standing infront of several children taking forever to observe and take pictures without a care in the world for children and I’m not talking about my own in this situation only as we are all entitled to enjoy days out but again they just seem to never think of others form what I’ve observed

"I was out in a beautiful park the other day.. my daughter was looking at swans on a piece of grass. Muslims came along stood right in front of my child and didn’t take note of her and began taking photos so 3/4 big tall women and men so I went and stood right infront of them and said absolutely not. So some are giving themselves a bad name...."

I don't even know where to begin with this.

Where are the rioters today? If the roles were reversed and a man of colour was going out and terrorising white people it would be the number one story on the BBC and Herr Farage would be calling for action on the streets. Right now it's the sixth story on the BBC.

Similarly, with the atrocious and heartbreaking case of the baby who was abused and murdered. If the perpetrators hadn't been white there would have been bedlam on the streets by 'degenerate thugs concerned citizens'. The issue is clearly men, but rabid racists, the media and the malign agitators who whip them up into a frenzy never seem to be outraged when it's one of their own.

BBC News - Man charged after suspected anti-Muslim attacks in Edinburgh
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2xg6lwz5jo

Yes, I feel like much of the public imagine that the grooming gangs have a) been stopping and b) largely been prosecuted.

Sadly they are wrong on both counts.

I must admit, before it was brought to my attention more recently I assumed the same, because what civilised society would refuse to investigate and prosecute such heinous acts against so many vulnerable young girls? After all the terrible points raised in the Casey report and warm words from the government I thought that maybe something would happen.

Something did happen early this year - but it was the government ordering the deletion of millions of magistrates' court archives that contained case records used to track grooming gangs. They were told of the urgent issues with this but they took months to order the retention of grooming gangs documents during which time it is likely that large quantities of information was already lost.

It makes me wonder what is going on in people’s minds when they wave all this away and refuse to even see the horrendous racism and behaviour around this. They then appear to demonise all white people who object. I can’t understand their thinking.

From the link, the man arrested appears to have smashed few windows.

Not quite the same level as trying to hack a stranger’s head off in a public street.

Imagine that headline said anti-Jewish instead of anti-Muslim…

The hatred, division and racism we're seeing is being stoked by the elite from well known figures like Musk to much shadowier figures like Smith who owns 55 Tufton Street. They want us to hate one another, they're especially egging on the working and under classes in the UK, to take the heat of off them. If you believe immigrants and people of colour are the source of all your problems you're far less likely to turn on the dozen men who own half the world's wealth and are robbing every single one of us while destroying the planet and our democracies. The media frenzy and far right agitators which whip up these riots and stoke the division that fuel it are all to quiet when the stories don't fit their narrative of the immigrant boogeyman.

Yes, I feel like much of the public imagine that the grooming gangs have a) been stopping and b) largely been prosecuted.

Sadly they are wrong on both counts.

I must admit, before it was brought to my attention more recently I assumed the same, because what civilised society would refuse to investigate and prosecute such heinous acts against so many vulnerable young girls? After all the terrible points raised in the Casey report and warm words from the government I thought that maybe something would happen.

Something did happen early this year - but it was the government ordering the deletion of millions of magistrates' court archives that contained case records used to track grooming gangs. They were told of the urgent issues with this but they took months to order the retention of grooming gangs documents during which time it is likely that large quantities of information was already lost.

It makes me wonder what is going on in people’s minds when they wave all this away and refuse to even see the horrendous racism and behaviour around this. They then appear to demonise all white people who object. I can’t understand their thinking.

Do you mean like Keir Starmer and his government creating division and tension with his demonstrably different actions depending on the ethnicity/religion of perpetrators and victims?

dog whistling the racism that lurks beneath the surface of more white people than I want to imagine

Interesting negative generalisation against white people though. Ironic that you’re making accusations against us of racism.

Or why no media coverage even, or many posts except to excuse it.

This guy may well have had mental health issues, he certainly looked as if he was likely off his face on something.

There are a lot of comments on social media articles about this incident with laughing emojis saying it was justified, he’s a hero etc. I get that people have differing views about immigration but this is disgusting. Who the fuck thinks people getting stabbed is funny? I’ve never seen this level of open and outright facism in my lifetime. I live very local to this incident and my blood runs cold thinking of friends or their families walking up that road and potentially getting in the way of this. I’d like to think it was a one off lone nutter, which they usually are, but it’s the wider response which is worrying.

It’s not about immigration. It never was. It’s about some rich and powerful people dog whistling the racism that lurks beneath the surface of more white people than I want to imagine, to make themselves more rich and powerful. Immigration concerns are just the foil.