Perceptions of 'healthy' or 'overweight' are really skewed by the area you live in?

@GwennaI'm nearly laughing at your comment that 2000 calories maintains a 10 stone frame. I appreciate you also said everyone is different. I try to follow around 1500 a day and really struggle but am losing weight slowly. In about 2 or 3 years at this calorie intake I could get to 10 stone. If I was to eat 2000 a day I'd stay overweight for life. It's so hard and depressing sometimes. There's a part of me that thinks why bother, the difference between constant sacrifice v indulgence and the difference between me wearing size 10 or size 16 doesn't feel proportional.

The people around me who are slim seem to work hard at it, they are usually high energy people that have big egos / high self esteem and are ambitious in all elements of their lives. Energy I think is key. Not just physical energy but mental too. When I get a bit overwhelmed or tired of life my weight escalates quickly, its not a mystery why, its because I lose the mental capacity to have an argument internally with myself at 20 min intervals 24/7 which is the only thing that stops constant eating. If I was on low income or had a difficult home life or poor relationship or disabled child or awful neighbours or insecurities about my own abilities or a horrible house or no local shops or medical conditions I would be obese with zero chance of changing.

I can only assume you’re a troll because I can’t see you’ve made any arguments.

There is a public health issue because obesity rates are rising. Im not aware of any evidence which suggests shaming obese people reduces obesity levels.

There are then people of all shapes and sizes wearing shorts. This isn’t a crisis and most people don’t care.

I often think that too.

I’m aware that many people defend obesity.. I’d have to be blind to be unaware of that. It’s on this thread! Therefore your assertion is false, uninformed, grasping at straws.. in fact.. you’ve resorted to contradicting me and falsehood, due to not having anything constructive to offer. Again. I won’t respond to your little contradictions again, it’s not worth my time.

Ahhh, do you think that people think you're poor because you're not as slim as the people you live around?

One of my DDs is obese and unhappy and very defensive. I’ve been obese at times in my life so I know exactly what she is battling. We are in France and very few people her age are as large as her.
Hers is 100% hormone related. It came on very quickly when she changes pills at about 16. Her appetite became uncontrollable. She finds being at home a bit miserable as there is nothing more exciting than black chocolate to eat and no puddings. I’m sure she stocks up on treats. And I don’t blame her.
My other young adult DD is a gymnast and wierd about food. Life is unfair.

Op I also went to harry styles and noticed this particularly. I think it’s the choice of glitter / hot pants etc outfit. Was definitely not as noticeable at billie eilish concert with the jorts and graphic Ts and bandana thing going on

I've been trying to do a low carb diet recently. It's so hard as unhealthy carbs, sugar etc is everywhere. Eating, fresh, health food is expensive and difficult. I don't know what food options are available in healthier countries like France, Spain, Greece or Italy, but we have a terrible food culture in the UK. Also, obesity is really rare in countries like Japan, the question is, what are other countries doing right that we're not?

I live in the south east and most people around me are healthy weight. I would say I'm the biggest out of my friends and I'm a size 12-14, BMI 26 so slightly overweight. When I go home to south Yorkshire I'm am very shocked by how big everyone is, especially young children.

So what this thread really comes down to is ‘ew fat people, I don’t want to see that’?

London has the lowest obesity rate in the country- about 20% compared to 36-37% in some areas.

I live on the zone 1/2 border and it is true that it's unusual to see either an overweight parent at the school gates or an overweight child.

If you’re asking if wealth and social class dictates weight, then course it does. Look at the women pictured in the royal enclosure at Royal Ascot this week. All high society and wealthy influencers looked absolutely incredible, not one over a size ten.

Go to the cheap seats and it’s a different story.

And your argument of merit was... (assuming I'm not too cognitively limited to recall it), oh right, that people wearing what they want constitutes gaslighting?

Adding - I guess the gaslighting is that you're societally expected, if not obligated, not to point and taunt them for offending your snowflake sensibilities? Poor you.

Lol.

I think the trend to drink “non water” drinks has a lot to answer for for weight gain.
and it starts so young - I see small children with those fruit shoots of other sugary drinks ALL the time -
imagine how hard it will be for the next generation to stay a healthy size if parents keep giving these things to their kids

I think better quality food is definitely a thing. It’s fascinating to look into this, and I think more work should be done 🙂 I wonder if high cortisol levels contribute as well - stress.

People are huge now.

I know loads (I mean loads) of men and women who dress badly, eat loads of fat and sugar and drink tons of alcohol. I think we’re way past the assumption that it is as simple as what people eat.

Far better that we look deeply at the correlation with poverty vs affluence. Said thin people are also in the poorer circles I grew up in and still see around me today. You see a mix of both types, but why do some gain weight while others don’t with the same intake is a more interesting question.

It’s also true that you don’t have to eat that much extra to maintain a high weight. As I recall from a weight loss diary from an excellent company I lost several stone with about ten years ago, it said just 2,300 calories a day will have a sedentary woman maintaining a weight of around 15 stone or something. Average recommended is 1800-2000. At 2,000 you can maintain a weight at the lower end of 10 stone/higher end of 9 stone.

The equivalent of roughly 300 calories is the average cappuccino (around 265 last time I looked) or one of this little cupcakes you get in twos in the supermarket (285 last time I looked). Half a supermarket pizza is around 450. The average single chocolate bar or individual sized packet of potato crisps is around 160.

It really doesn’t take much…

I live in a pretty poor town and the vast majority of the teenagers are slim, many of the older people are fat

Yes I lived in Spain and my up and down weight over the years/baby weight gain /loss was much commented on endlessly my ex MIL and her sisters
I loved her dearly but it was testing at the time lol

No you are in a cognitively limited space where you imagine others share your value set around aesthetics. Really, many people don’t care how other people look or what they wear.

There are so many women with issues about food and weight, such that they hate other women who don’t have the same degree of poor self-esteem. It’s really sad to witness.

Exactly!