Perceptions of 'healthy' or 'overweight' are really skewed by the area you live in?

So do you think there is an obesity epidemic or a nutritional deficiency epidemic? :s

These drugs are a temporary chemical scaffold and do nothing to prevent nutritional deficiencies, and muscle and bone loss, but hey that’s ok, I’m sure they’ll be another pill to take to offset that.

I would imagine by simply not being obese or significantly overweight, they're taking strain off their joints, heart and lungs, and reducing their odds of high blood pressure, cholesterol and diabetes regardless?

They will notice signs of nutritional deficiencies which can be managed and that provides an opportunity for education as well.

Just why do you care if someone is wearing an outfit you deem unflattering? No one is forcing you to wear a crop top and shorts

How, if they’re still not getting proper nutrition?

They've reduced their risk of cardiovascular disease and a host of other conditions as well as potentially increasing the number of healthy life years they will live - that's fantastic.

That's my observation as well. I travel a lot, UK is the fattest country by far, Germany is probably the next, but the gap with e.g. France and Spain is shocking. If you see a large than local average person in Med and listen them speaking, it's nearly certain to be English or American

I have access to surveillance and registry data that are not in the public domain through my work. HTH

I come from quite an affluent area so
rarely see overweight people.

We once went to a huge campsite in Cornwall and I couldn't get over the amount of overweight people. I thought it was some kind of weight watchers convention at first. (It wasn't). But I realised I'd been living in a bubble and saw first hand the obesity crisis amongst a certain demographic.

Even if this was true, what’s your point? Someone on WLI still eating junk but in smaller amounts who is not overweight is going to be lower risk for diet related illnesses than someone overweight with an even bigger diet of junk food.

You only have to read the WLI board to see that many on these medications haven’t overhauled their nutrition; they just eat smaller portions of junk food. Exercise is non existent or postponed until they’ve lost all the weight, and where is the motivation to maintain exercise when the primary objective disappears? Fast food and ultra-processed foods are here to stay. As WLI medications become more affordable and available in tablet form, I’m sure there will be many people that maintain sedentary lifestyles and poor diets, relying on a daily pill to offset the health consequences.

I have taken up knitting in the evening, cut down massively on the snacking!

If we're counting tea and coffee as eating plants, as well as the teaspoon of fennel seeds etc in our curry then I'm probably up to 85 as well!

I’m exactly the same. I knew I needed to lose weight, but was shocked when I stood on the scales and then worked out that I was actually obese. Now I’m feeling slim and wearing a size 10( thanks mountain) but I’m at the highest point of healthy weight for my height

Yes because when you’re hot the only cool option is a crop top and short shorts

I live in rural Norfolk, the care home capital of the UK, God's waiting room. We don't have that many young people around (which is nice, quiet).

On a serious note, probably not that much where I live but when I go to Norwich, far more. However there are loads of international students and if it wasn't for them that ratio would probably be higher.
I personally don't care, people can do/chose whatever they want. That's when they have the choice, I agree that on any big even there should be good balance of food options.

I'm young so money is v much front and centre, food = money spent which I dont have lots of! I was particularly slim as a student too.

When i was at my biggest I was a teen (never been overweight but noticeably stopped fitting in clothes) it was because I had MORE time. Not less time, and was bored so just ate snacks.

I was at my slimmest when I was working longer hours, doing all the washing, cleaning, all my errands. There wasn't time to make dinner so I just skipped.. lol

You're assuming I haven't experienced poverty.

I have. I've been the kid who has had to sleep in my coat when the electric was cut off, and whose mum would skip meals so we were fed. I've been the kid who used to live on the cheap Iceland lasagnes and the massive congealed cheese pasta pots from Asda... Also no holidays, day trips. We had bare floors, and basic furniture (which was always free second hand).

Please don't assume I don't get it.

I guess you mean actually inside the stadium, as there are plenty of places in the stadium area offering all sorts of food.
i.e. in Boxpark, Wembley

So much choice as one leaves a local bus stop or walking down from the tube stations, and of course Wembley itself is full of eating places.

I don’t know what’s to be gained from this thread but I also don’t disagree…we went to Centre Parcs and I was quite shocked by how many seriously obese people were there. Like, the vast majority of people were very overweight and many had to use mobility scooters. It’s expensive to go there, so not just a class issue. And also seemed a bit odd on activity holiday where people seemed to be mostly sitting in Starbucks. I know there are a lot of intersecting factors which contribute to the current health of the nation and I don’t care what people wear (whether it’s “flattering” etc) but I do also think it’s kind of crazy to pretend that we are all fine and healthy and there isn’t a problem here…

Some lovely ideas here but as someone who grew up a fat kid on a council estate I can't help but find it a bit patronising. People talk about education in this well-meaning way that assumes we simply don't know which foods are unhealthy or that being obese is bad, and if we did we'd suddenly fix it and become WFPB gym bunnies. As if banning things will make us all buy salad. My PE teacher used to bully me as though I was just an ignorant shit or somehow choosing to be fat on purpose at 16.

The fact of the matter is, junk food was one of my only affordable pleasures in life. My dad didn't feed me, so cheap chips and £1 burgers were a lifeline after school. We didn't get to go on holidays or to concerts or have extracurricular lessons or hobbies. As a youth I never imagined myself becoming a happy adult, so it was impossible to care about long-term health. But also I simply didn't have options - Would I have been able to get a balanced meal for £1? My Dad didn't even own kitchen knives, and we had 1 pan. And I was far from the poorest kid in my class.

Sorry for this rant but I think people who have never been poor, or obese, or neglected just don't get it. It's a social issue and the primary driver is poverty.

Affluence and weight is linked for sure , but
your point about normalising it is also spot on !

It will bank roll the NHS - Unsure the solution ( short of an insurance type system where those overweight / smoke / drink pay more )

@ComfyKnickers what do you mix with Tuna? Greek yoghurt? Or some other abomination? I buy Lidl's lighter thsn light mayo. Adding some healthier choices puts a lot of, short post menopausal women way over their calorie allowance.

It’s easier to be more low level active in London. Easier to walk to school, walk to the station or the bus stop for your commute, walk to the shop. You just can’t do short trips to the shops, GP etc in the car and park as easily as you can in other parts of the UK so you just have to walk. It’s often quicker too. I think that makes a huge difference. Our lives are so hectic that time is at a premium. If your child’s school is 25 mins away by foot, down a country lane with no path, you simply are not going to have 100 mins a day to spare walking there and back twice a day plus risking getting run over. Or letting them do it by themselves. So you drive everywhere.

However, all those little bits of walking does add up to a decent basic level of fitness.