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Perceptions of 'healthy' or 'overweight' are really skewed by the area you live in?

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alwaysdream · 20/06/2026 11:21

I'm sure I'll get roasted for this, but here goes anyway...

I live in an area of London where pretty much nobody is 'overweight.' Particularly young people.

Last night, in Wembley Stadium (Harry Styles concert), the ONLY food available was chicken and chips or doughnuts. That's it. And - I know this will sound very judgemental - but I'd say about 7 / 10 people were quite 'overweight,' but all walking around in tiny shorts and cropped tops, etc (I know this is the vibe at this kind of event). It made me wonder if this is 'normal' for young people, on a national level? I know it sounds judgemental, but AIBU? Are most teens overweight where you live?

OP posts:
BaffledOwl · 22/06/2026 08:37

alwaysdream · 22/06/2026 08:00

Sorry I didn't realise this thread was still going on!
Basically, the thread was sparked by me realising that I probably live in a bit of demographic 'bubble.' I mean, I obviously knew that anyway, but this event was a situation that really brought it home.
Somebody the other day posted a link showing that the London boroughs of Ken and Chelsea, Richmond, Wandsworth and Hammersmith and Fulham have the lowest obesity levels in the country. Those are the boroughs I'm moving around in day to day. Of course there are people of different shapes and sizes all around me. However, notwithstanding this. I did notice a marked and very visible difference in a massive arena (Harry Styles has nothing to do with it) where there are hundreds of thousands of young people from all around the U.K. Again, this is probably to be expected - and the fact the fashion was micro skirts / shorts and crop tops etc probably skewed the scene further - but nevertheless, the difference was much more stark than I would have expected. And the fact that I was struck by this straight off, shows that the area I live in is probably more of a 'bubble' than I thought. I'm sure, as many have commented, that relative levels of wealth have a lot to do with it. But I think it's more than this. For instance, if girls are in a school where 99% of them are very slim, they are less likely to be out wearing skimpy clothes if they are slightly overweight. But, if girls in the overweight BMI are all around you, you are more likely to wear clothes that let it all hang out, for want of a better phrase. You could have an overweight BMI but think this is actually slim because everyone around you looks the same. Some may see overweight girls in tight skimpy clothing as body confidence. That is a valid view. Some may see this as a worrying cultural 'normalisation' of being overweight. I'm not sure what to think to be honest, but that is what the thread was about. Not individuals but social attitudes and how these may vary across regions and how this reflects on us as a nation.

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For me, regardless of the clothing that a person wears, I do worry about the normalisation of being overweight and obese.

I worry that WLIs are going to be treated like the tablets from the Hunger Games... Keep eating rubbish, and take the WLIs to enable you to keep eating rubbish (albeit lower amounts).

I don't know what the solution is - there's no one size fits all win here (no pun intended). What I do know and hope, is that I am a better role model to my children when it comes to food and exercise.

alwaysdream · 22/06/2026 08:00

Sorry I didn't realise this thread was still going on!
Basically, the thread was sparked by me realising that I probably live in a bit of demographic 'bubble.' I mean, I obviously knew that anyway, but this event was a situation that really brought it home.
Somebody the other day posted a link showing that the London boroughs of Ken and Chelsea, Richmond, Wandsworth and Hammersmith and Fulham have the lowest obesity levels in the country. Those are the boroughs I'm moving around in day to day. Of course there are people of different shapes and sizes all around me. However, notwithstanding this. I did notice a marked and very visible difference in a massive arena (Harry Styles has nothing to do with it) where there are hundreds of thousands of young people from all around the U.K. Again, this is probably to be expected - and the fact the fashion was micro skirts / shorts and crop tops etc probably skewed the scene further - but nevertheless, the difference was much more stark than I would have expected. And the fact that I was struck by this straight off, shows that the area I live in is probably more of a 'bubble' than I thought. I'm sure, as many have commented, that relative levels of wealth have a lot to do with it. But I think it's more than this. For instance, if girls are in a school where 99% of them are very slim, they are less likely to be out wearing skimpy clothes if they are slightly overweight. But, if girls in the overweight BMI are all around you, you are more likely to wear clothes that let it all hang out, for want of a better phrase. You could have an overweight BMI but think this is actually slim because everyone around you looks the same. Some may see overweight girls in tight skimpy clothing as body confidence. That is a valid view. Some may see this as a worrying cultural 'normalisation' of being overweight. I'm not sure what to think to be honest, but that is what the thread was about. Not individuals but social attitudes and how these may vary across regions and how this reflects on us as a nation.

OP posts:
Silverbands · 22/06/2026 07:49

competentadult · 22/06/2026 07:18

This to me is the crux of the problem here - food has been disconnected from genuine hunger.
Sophisticated European and Asian countries have held on tighter to their formal mealtime cultures and they aren't constantly grazing on crap.

It’s very true, there was no culture of snacking at the office and no one bought in cakes and biscuits all the time. The women were all very slim and wanted to stay that way. I am glad I worked there at a young age as I lost weight and now appreciate being slimmer.

IwanttoWFH · 22/06/2026 07:31

I attended the HS concert and noticed the same thing. Lots of girls (they all tended to be mid teens to early twenties) who were overweight and not wearing very much. Interestingly, the older people (by older, I say 30 - 40 years) were dressed much more conservatively, regardless of size.
I think people are getting bigger and, in turn, there has been a big “body confidence” movement. My Instagram feed is often filled with morbidly obese people sharing their outfits and bikini pics and the comments applauding them. On the one hand, I do admire the confidence to wear the outfits. I thought I was fat my entire teens/twenties (was never above a size 10) and would never have dared to wear what they were wearing. I grew up in the 90’s/00’s though where we had the opposite end of the spectrum.

Augustus40 · 22/06/2026 07:29

Sorry posted twice.

Augustus40 · 22/06/2026 07:29

In London people walk a lot more plus much more awareness of health and nutrition than many places.

Sartre · 22/06/2026 07:27

BlueHydrangea7 · 21/06/2026 21:53

It's an interesting post and a subject I've thought about many times. I live in a working class town and the average dress size here is probably 16. I'm a size 18 although I go the gym often and my diet isn't appalling. If I go to London or Manchester, I don't see many overweight people. When I visited Milan I didn't see any overweight people until I arrived back here at the airport.

Is it that city folk feel more pressure to conform? Are they wealthier and therefore happier and less likely to comfort eat? Do they just walk more and drive less?

As for clothing, I don't believe a fat lass needs to cover up. Live and let live!

This comes down to activity levels again. In bigger cities people walk around more and are also more inclined to use PT, cycle or walk than drive because the infrastructure is there to support it.

Augustus40 · 22/06/2026 07:26

In London people walk a lot more plus much more aware of health and nutrition than many places.

competentadult · 22/06/2026 07:18

Silverbands · 21/06/2026 10:10

As a chubby young adult I lived in a nice area of London and people were very slim. I lost weight because I worked in an office with skinny ladies and realised for the first time in my life that it wasn’t normal to eat constantly.

I have now moved to the midlands and am shocked at how overweight people are. The women are all so round and no one seems to think it’s bad that a lot of the children are as well. A lot of the children’s clubs still have tuck shops and children always seem to be drinking full sugar cans of coke. Healthy eating doesn’t seem to really exist.

This to me is the crux of the problem here - food has been disconnected from genuine hunger.
Sophisticated European and Asian countries have held on tighter to their formal mealtime cultures and they aren't constantly grazing on crap.

Munchie1965 · 22/06/2026 07:00

I just came back form a cruise around the Med and I was shocked at the size of some of my fellow passengers. These were really big people that I just do not see very often where I live. Some were so big that they were probably the biggest people that I have ever seen outside of a TV documentary.

I felt slim and I am overweight.

This led me to conclude that it was something to do with culture ie in certain parts of the country being that size is just seen as normal or less remarkable anyway.

Sartre · 22/06/2026 07:00

We always blame food but I was chatting to DH about this last night and I think it’s more heavily related to everyone being sedentary. UPF’s were everywhere in the 90s and 00s so it’s nothing new, I grew up on them! I wasn’t overweight because I played out all of the time, I was constantly moving around. Now kids sit around on their iPads/consoles. In my year at primary we had one fat kid, that was it. It’s way more prevalent to see it now.

0livetree · 22/06/2026 05:45

But healthy food doesn’t need to be expensive. Rice and pulses and veg. I thinks it’s education and culture and being surrounded by other overweight people who also have portion sizes that are too large etc

BlueHydrangea7 · 21/06/2026 21:53

It's an interesting post and a subject I've thought about many times. I live in a working class town and the average dress size here is probably 16. I'm a size 18 although I go the gym often and my diet isn't appalling. If I go to London or Manchester, I don't see many overweight people. When I visited Milan I didn't see any overweight people until I arrived back here at the airport.

Is it that city folk feel more pressure to conform? Are they wealthier and therefore happier and less likely to comfort eat? Do they just walk more and drive less?

As for clothing, I don't believe a fat lass needs to cover up. Live and let live!

Pistachiocake · 21/06/2026 21:29

There was a recent post asking why everyone isn't one the jabs, and many answers mentioned cost, so I don't know if this is relevant.
It is amazing how judgmental some people can be; if you put on weight, despite eating very little, people treat you in a noticeably different way. I don't suppose you can wear a sandwich board saying you used to go to the gym 5x a week/eat a perfect diet etc. But several of the previously superfit people I know who are now overweight (one had a brain tumour, one had cancer, and due to medication/not being able to exercise) look very different-and they get treated very differently, which is sad.

BringBackCatsEyes · 21/06/2026 21:20

mathanxiety · 21/06/2026 20:20

Are chips fried in some sort of veg oil not vegan?

Wembley Stadium does have vegan hot dogs.

mathanxiety · 21/06/2026 20:20

4Lightz · 20/06/2026 11:56

Yeah it depends on the area. In my closest town everybody is fat, but when I go to the nearest city everyone is slim and gorgeous. I think in small towns people drive everywhere so they gain weight, whereas in cities people walk more. Living in London you’re probably surrounded by slimmer people but at big events like concerts people come from everywhere so you see more of the fatter ones.

And with regards to the food situation at Wembley they will just be selling what sells. Burgers and chips are easy to grab and eat on the go so most people are happy with that. Shame they had no vegan options though that sounds like an oversight.

Are chips fried in some sort of veg oil not vegan?

BringBackCatsEyes · 21/06/2026 20:12

TaraRhu · 21/06/2026 19:43

It's related to wealth not area. You don't see many overweight people in Chelsea pop over to Croydon and it's a different story. Access to food and money to buy healthy food is key. Plus money for fitness, weight management etc

There is a strong correlation between wealth and area (certainly in the examples you give), thus you're pretty much agreeing with OP.

LostInTheDream · 21/06/2026 20:01

PancakeCloud · 21/06/2026 19:06

So do you think there is an obesity epidemic or a nutritional deficiency epidemic? :s

For a lot of people on Mumsnet it seems like the two go hand in hand 🙄 Huge amounts of assumption and judgement.

It's quite easy to be overweight and also eat reasonably healthy meals a lot of the time. Plenty of people are.

TaraRhu · 21/06/2026 19:43

It's related to wealth not area. You don't see many overweight people in Chelsea pop over to Croydon and it's a different story. Access to food and money to buy healthy food is key. Plus money for fitness, weight management etc

FriendlyMedusa · 21/06/2026 19:32

BaffledOwl · 21/06/2026 15:55

You're assuming I haven't experienced poverty.

I have. I've been the kid who has had to sleep in my coat when the electric was cut off, and whose mum would skip meals so we were fed. I've been the kid who used to live on the cheap Iceland lasagnes and the massive congealed cheese pasta pots from Asda... Also no holidays, day trips. We had bare floors, and basic furniture (which was always free second hand).

Please don't assume I don't get it.

I don't purport to know anything about you - It's not a personal attack to completely disagree with your proposed solutions and explain why.

likimagee · 21/06/2026 19:20

KilkennyCats · 21/06/2026 18:52

How, if they’re still not getting proper nutrition?

Who is saying “they’re” not getting proper nutrition, the pp who has raised it seems to have determined that from her own survey of MN posts.

nomas · 21/06/2026 19:19

alwaysdream · 20/06/2026 12:33

I was shocked at how crap and basic the food options are at Wembley arena. Food at other similar venues in London is generally quite good.

What on earth are you on about, OP?

Here are the dining options, including Thai, Greek, Indian, Sushi and many others.

www.boxpark.co.uk/venues/wembley/food-and-drink

This is basically a thread to smirk and sneer at overweight girls daring to wear cool clothes in this heat. At least own it.

Seriously, give your head a shake.

Dragonscaledaisy · 21/06/2026 19:13

Chestecoffthatcarriedheroff · 21/06/2026 19:03

These drugs are a temporary chemical scaffold and do nothing to prevent nutritional deficiencies, and muscle and bone loss, but hey that’s ok, I’m sure they’ll be another pill to take to offset that.

These drugs are not for short-term use only for many people. You're showing an astounding level of ignorance. Obesity is a chronic, relapsing disease and should be managed as such, as are other chronic diseases.

user4903456342 · 21/06/2026 19:07

Chestecoffthatcarriedheroff · 21/06/2026 19:03

These drugs are a temporary chemical scaffold and do nothing to prevent nutritional deficiencies, and muscle and bone loss, but hey that’s ok, I’m sure they’ll be another pill to take to offset that.

I very rarely see this kind of rigidity of thinking outside of Mumsnet. It's such a strange phenomenon.

worldshottestmom · 21/06/2026 19:07

Teens in my area are mostly an average weight, with some above that and some below that. Same for the adults really.