Young child caused accident on pavement

I'm in exactly the same position as your Mum. I'd not be in a good frame of mind ir body being ambushed by a random toddler

To be fair to @Backedoffhackedoff I think they’re simply trying to make the point that with people that unreasonable as to fail to supervise their child and then refuse to acknowledge any fault or apologise to the other party, you’ll never convince them they are the problem, that they’ve done anything at all wrong and therefore that they need to change their approach/attitude in any way, shape or form.

Sadly, you can’t always apply your standards of behaviour and integrity (and IMO the standards of a reasonable, decent society) to everyone, never mind expect them to accept, respect and comply with them.

The title is perfectly clear to those not looking to find a million excuses for negligent parents.

The experiences of elderly people I know who have fallen sadly validate that many if them never fully recover from a bad fall.

You responded to me, so I haven’t paid attention to what you’ve said or not said.

and the post of mine you first responded to said

“Of course. We can’t control careless people though can we? This is a really weird conversation.”

which I think was pretty clear was referring to controlling other people’s behaviour rather than your own

and it should be fairly obviously the law doesn’t stop you doing anything- it provides consequences after the event.

Wow. That’s quite a statistic

Friday night... they're probably drunk.

Depending on the person’s age and the particular way they fall, the risk of a hip fracture is significant. For women over 50 falling onto the pavement it can range from 1% to over 25%, again depending on age and other particulars.

For all people over 50, the one year death rate after hip fracture is about 30%. Falls can be very serious.

I would imagine that the person injured didn't think it was'hardly a big deal'. The responses on here I would imagine indicate the level of lack of supervision some so-called parents use. One would imagine if the toddler was pushed into the road and was hit by a vehicle that would be the driver's fault. It's hardly surprising that schools have problems with ill-raised children who have never experienced discipline.

They're a big deal to the person who falls and is seriously injured.
I mean death is pretty common too, but I dare you to tell a bereaved person their loss is "no big deal".

Agreed.

@Senso Did you tell the parents that, actually, there was someone to blame and it was them for not assessing whether a busy street was the right place for their DC to be running about with a pushchair? That their failure to parent was the reason that someone was laying on the floor with a potentially nasty injury?

Maybe that’s why we have an a&e crisis🙄

Your maths is nonexistent - that doesn't make it an 'everyday occurrence'. I went to A&E last year (not due to falling) - anyone there would have seen me waiting - that doesn't mean I'm there every day, nor that anyone else in there who has had a fall is there regularly.

Looking at the population of my (not large) town, if everyone who lived here had a fall serious enough to need A&E once every two years (unlikely, just choosing this scenario for illustrative purposes) and they each chose a different day of the year to have it, that would mean approximately 850 different people each day in A&E due to having a fall.

I think that poster is a troll or a crazy.
and one can’t reason with a crazy.

I had a fall two years ago, I'm still dealing with the injury and can no longer walk fast. Yes falling over is a big deal, it changed my life

Exactly this, see my comment.

If the pushchair was being pushed erratically then the victim may have been walking to avoid it and the kid steered into her last second

no wonder we live in a world where no one has any regard for others

I wouldn't want the child to get in trouble, she is a child after all, but the parents should have kept a better eye on her and stopped her going so fast. It sounds as though they were far too blasé. I'd have been mortified had it been my child.

about the accident and that is awful.

I agree.

A lot of parents let children push prams who are just not old enough or sensible enough. I have seen several horrible collisions and near tragedies. One was a child about three or four pushing a baby near some fishponds. The child was too short to even see over the top of the pram to have visibility and smacked the pram into the raised side of the pond. The whole pram tipped forward and it was only by chance a man nearby was quick enough to stop it falling forward into the pond with the baby in it.

See also the "Menace DC" on scooters.

true but based on the ops saying* *

"the injured person had been walking at a normal pace in the opposite direction"

so based on this they could have avoided the pushchair

Why is that a question? Where have I said it should be up to us as individuals to control what other adults do?

If you're trying to say that no-one can control what careless people do, have a think about the concept of the rule of law.

Of course that is harder. If I saw the kid coming towards us - I would have to shout at the parents. I have done that when kids have been on scooters heading for my partner. Course - have been lucky they have listened. I am also a dickhead and a rich one at that, so if some kid does happen to crash into my partner (which I hope never happens) the parents will learn, via the stress I put them through by suing them, to parent their kids. Even if they don’t have a lot of means/ assets - I will bankrupt them. People need to learn actions/ or in action in this example, has consequences.

To be fair - it’s lucky I am a rich dickhead.

But if you're elderly or infirm, you can't necessarily hop out of the way. Or if you're watching the traffic or happening to glance away at the wrong moment. I wouldn't be so sure that the person knocked down was playing a game of chicken with the child pushing the pram.

How is that quite a leap? The child did enough damage to cause a suspected broken hip! You don’t think it’s possible the buggy could have gone into the road into traffic?