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To point out that it's "etc" not "ect"

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SourdoughSally · 19/06/2026 19:20

I see this multiple times a day and it makes me wonder if people pronounce it "ekt" when they speak.

OP posts:
sesquipedalian · 23/06/2026 08:29

There’s a whole section in these pages called Pedants’ Corner - why does everything have to end up in AIBU?

ARingtoit · 23/06/2026 08:27

I think you'll find it's et c. 😋

Traceysgoingtobelivid · 23/06/2026 06:04

Another one that drives me mad is curb appeal, it’s kerb appeal, curb and kerb have completely different meanings, you see it all the time on here.

Augustus40 · 23/06/2026 05:25

Poor education.

I have Latin o level but am 62.

TallSturdyGirls · 23/06/2026 05:07

PistachioTiramisu · 22/06/2026 10:09

It'a actually two words - et cetera - meaning 'and all the rest'. I blame the fact that no Latin is taught in schools any more.

When was Latin taught in normal schools last? I am in my early 50s and it wasn't for me.

Flutterbees · 23/06/2026 01:54

Can we add ‘I can see a feint line on my pregnancy test’…it’s a faint line, ie light and not easily seen. Feint refers to a deceptive or distracting manoeuvre, ie something a boxer might do.

grumpygrape · 22/06/2026 10:17

PistachioTiramisu · 22/06/2026 10:09

It'a actually two words - et cetera - meaning 'and all the rest'. I blame the fact that no Latin is taught in schools any more.

Apologies, I didn't see this before I made my post saying the same thing.

grumpygrape · 22/06/2026 10:16

ToadRage · 19/06/2026 19:23

Considering the long version is etcetera, it should be obvious however I have heard multiple people who exetera.

Sorry if this has already been said but it's actually 'et cetera' hence etc.
et meaning and, and cetera meaning the rest.

Buscobel · 22/06/2026 10:15

IDrinkTeaAllTheTime · 20/06/2026 09:25

I received an email yesterday from someone asking “does that work for yourself?” What are they teaching in schools these days? 🤦🏻‍♀️

Certainly not that!

PistachioTiramisu · 22/06/2026 10:09

It'a actually two words - et cetera - meaning 'and all the rest'. I blame the fact that no Latin is taught in schools any more.

SerendipityJane · 22/06/2026 10:07

And you're wrong - mistakes have cost me time and money and I think life would be vastly improved if people didn't make mistakes with communication (example already given in this thread).

You can approach this two ways:

  1. insist on perfection and deal with every single transgression you find in an effort to fix the world

  2. Use your innate understanding of language and the appalling idiocy of computer assistance and quietly correct spearchucker drivel as you read it with no drama, only making exception where genuine ambiguity could lead to non trivial outcomes.

Also, never forget Muphrys law.

TheLoneliestSnail · 22/06/2026 09:15

TheresMillionsOfGeoffreys · 22/06/2026 08:06

You cared enough about the issue to post, and to correct others' behaviour, just as everyone else did.

And you're wrong - mistakes have cost me time and money and I think life would be vastly improved if people didn't make mistakes with communication (example already given in this thread). I wouldn't hate it at all, and as a neurodiverse person, anything that helps me better understand what people mean makes me feel more at ease.

I commented because I’m sick of the pedantry on here. Calling out bad behaviour is not the same as correcting minor spelling and grammar errors.
It is not costing you time or effort on MN which is what I’m talking about. Nobody has to be on here. I’m on here because I want to be, but it would be a lot nicer without all of the unnecessary, smug SPaG corrections. There’s an appropriate board for it, but posters like OP aren’t content with that because their intention is to wind people up which is just unpleasant.
If you genuinely don’t understand someone on here, you could politely ask them to clarify or just scroll past.
I’ve seen instances where posters have corrected someone’s spelling or grammar at really inappropriate times. It’s impolite, unnecessary and often lacking in empathy.

basoon · 22/06/2026 08:25

I write it correctly but pronounce it incorrectly. Not really worried about it.

TheresMillionsOfGeoffreys · 22/06/2026 08:06

TheLoneliestSnail · 21/06/2026 22:29

YABU. Nobody gives a shit except the anal retentives on here who get some weird pleasure from correcting other posters’ spelling/ grammar. Despite what they say, they would hate it if people didn’t make mistakes because it would rob them of the opportunity to point it out and fulfil their pathetic need to feel fleetingly superior.

You cared enough about the issue to post, and to correct others' behaviour, just as everyone else did.

And you're wrong - mistakes have cost me time and money and I think life would be vastly improved if people didn't make mistakes with communication (example already given in this thread). I wouldn't hate it at all, and as a neurodiverse person, anything that helps me better understand what people mean makes me feel more at ease.

TheLoneliestSnail · 21/06/2026 22:29

YABU. Nobody gives a shit except the anal retentives on here who get some weird pleasure from correcting other posters’ spelling/ grammar. Despite what they say, they would hate it if people didn’t make mistakes because it would rob them of the opportunity to point it out and fulfil their pathetic need to feel fleetingly superior.

TheresMillionsOfGeoffreys · 21/06/2026 14:32

Frequency · 21/06/2026 12:36

Imo, it is whatever autocorrect tells me it is, which probably depends on which browser I am using and whether it thinks I am American or not.

Autocorrect thinks I want to say "bit" instead of "but" and "not" instead of "now". It isn't those and the meaning can get completely changed.... without it being "totally obvious what they meant".

Having gone quite far on the wrong track when a legal document said "this is not accepted" instead of "now accepted", surely the best method is to simply look at what you have written and check whether that is what you meant to say?!

ginasevern · 21/06/2026 12:44

ECT is an abbreviation for electroconvulsive therapy. Otherwise "etc" is the only correct and recognised short form for etcetera on both sides of the Atlantic. So we can't even blame Americanisms for this one.

Bubobubo · 21/06/2026 12:42

Nautiesdese · 21/06/2026 12:15

Could be abit or alot worse aswell

YES! abit afew alot ect 😛

Frequency · 21/06/2026 12:36

Imo, it is whatever autocorrect tells me it is, which probably depends on which browser I am using and whether it thinks I am American or not.

SerendipityJane · 21/06/2026 12:34

Et = "and"
Cetera = "the remainder"

etc. = centuries old abbreviation (which despite generations of English teachers disdain were quite acceptable in days of costly paper and ink).

Did no one do Latin at school ?

Nautiesdese · 21/06/2026 12:15

Could be abit or alot worse aswell

BleedinglyObvious · 21/06/2026 11:11

@Preditorysounds , The concern I have is that the errors are so prevalent that they could become acceptable. After all 'language evolves'-
sod the fact that ect doesn't reflect what the abbreviation means or its origin.
If someone says 'speak to a councillor' the meaning is quite different to 'speak to a counsellor'. Venerable and vulnerable have such different meanings that the wrong use could be dangerous.
Praying on the venerable ... Preying on the vulnerable....

@TheresMillionsOfGeoffreys ,good point about therapy.

TheresMillionsOfGeoffreys · 21/06/2026 07:36

I read a post that said "my brother had received therapy, ect".

Just out of interest, would most people have taken that to mean "etc" (and assuming the poster wrote it incorrectly) or ECT therapy?

Preditorysounds · 20/06/2026 22:06

Etc ect - one is technically correct- one is wrong - but most intelligent people can understand the meaning of both of these

Maybe the ect speller is dyslexic or maybe made a mistake or a simple typo??

unclench a little - the meaning is perfectly clear - even if spelt wrong - stop being so bloody pedantic - life is too short when it is obvious what the person meant .

arlequin · 20/06/2026 22:01

@BleedinglyObviousit sort of is. Like waps to wasp, hros to horse and brid to bird. Obv those weren’t influenced by a comic though ☺️
It’s metathesis as is ask to aks.
anyway will leave this thread now!