AIBU to challenge the school’s wording about pupils rolling skirts up?

Both you and Gloriia seem determined to deliberately misinterpret what people are saying for your own agenda.

Nobody has called young women whores. What's been said is that hiking a skirt up so high that it's exposing your underwear and/or bum makes the girl look like a whore.

And that's a perfectly fair comment. Many of these girls are physically developed women, so if they wear clothing that an adult woman might wear they will obviously look just like those adult women.

Street prostitutes do often wear extremely short skirts that reveal their underwear/bum, so if a physically developed teenage girl does the same she will look like a whore, whether you like it or not. But of course that doesn't mean that she is one, neither does it mean that she wants to look like one, and nobody is saying that, so please don't put words in their mouth just so you can suffer faux-outrage.

I don't care about the language used. It's only being used because they are dressing in an improper manner. People are saying what they blatantly think. Calling it as it is.

Why be so polite about it?

And another one! Yes language, matters well done.

Ok. Progress at last. Of course you can say it's inappropriate to break dress codes if you like.

That is not the same as saying 'tramp/whore/sweaty arse cheeks/like baboons showing their genitals/rolls of fat'/ like pervs flashing in parks' etc etc.

One of you go there in the end! Well done.

Absolutely right, @Gloriia. As I said earlier, neutral language from the school would be something like “All skirts must be knee length, and underwear should not be showing - this applies to all pupils”.

'Surely anyone on a site predominantly aimed at supporting women would take exception to this language? It’s unlikely to be a reporting issue as it’s presented as opinion but it’s beyond distasteful'

Thank god! Exactly op. All the other sensible people must be at work .

And the way the girls are dressing is incredibly inappropriate as well

Have you actually read my posts?

Yes I agree with a dress code. I don't agree with the misogyny and hysteria demonstrated on this very thread.

Dress codes can be enforced calmly and rationally without slurs, shaming, <'rolls of fat' a few posts back but I seem to be the only one appalled by that> and awful blaming schookids for pervs behaviour/'discomfort'. Teachers should get back in their boxes and focus on teaching kids competently.

I'm saying thing on here that we think. You might walk past and think "rank that's incredibly inappropriate". And now people are just saying what they think.

Oh you can express 'disgust' obviously. A man walking round in a jockstrap would be totally inappropriate but not remotely comparable to what the thread is about though.

So as you say your issue with the thread is the language employed

but fundamentally, like your daughters, you agree with a uniform code and it being adhered to. Correct @Gloriia ?

But you aren’t?

'IMO this thread is no longer about that but whether most posters think it’s acceptable to come on and call young women whores'

Exactly. The mask slipped a good few pages ago.

Using misogynistic slurs when describing schoolgirls of course isnt breaking TGs. If I called another poster a slur that would be. Probably better to let the awful derogatory sneers stand tbh as it shows up what the actual problem is with appalling judgement and shaming.

I think they look awful but I'd never call anyone a tramp or a whore for having them?

But if a man wanted to walk around in a jockstrap, we'd find it disgusting. But apparently we shouldn't be allowed to express our disgust we should just police it nicely or something.

Oh I see deletions ALL the time that was “opinion” on mumsnet

Yes some of the language has been appalling
but doesn’t look like @Gloriia has reported despite that being her issue with the thread

or perhaps HQ don’t agree

what did your teacher friend suggest when you said you were considering challenging the school about the newsletter?

but I should say few are wearing skirts so short you can see underwear and the majority wear tights.

But it was YOU that mentioned seeing skirts so short you could see knickers. You! So weird to be so appalled that others followed suit but with perhaps more flesh on the bones!