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AIBU to challenge the school’s wording about pupils rolling skirts up?

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GreenSalon · 19/06/2026 17:50

Weekly newsletter today from DC’s secondary school contained a paragraph on uniform including the fact that there have been complaints from the public about “pupils who choose to wear skirts” rolling them up to wear them extremely short. It finishes with asking parents to speak to their children about why this is “not a good idea”.

Now, apart from the fact I assume that they must mean girls, is this not clearly implying that short skirts = making themselves vulnerable and if is, then if anything bad happens as a result it is their own fault? I thought we had moved beyond this kind of nonsense.

I only have boys at the school not girls but want to write to the head to point out how utterly sexist this is. DH agrees with me pov but thinks I shouldn’t write. AIBU?

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MrsShawnHatosy · 20/06/2026 09:45

montysmaw · 20/06/2026 09:19

Because they are "empowered" .
Apparently.

There’s a thread going at the moment about teens thinking it’s gross to have their toes on display - someone said they’ve had it drummed into them that feet are sexualised - but putting your arse cheeks on display is absolutely fine? It’s crazy.

MagdaLenor · 20/06/2026 09:29

montysmaw · 20/06/2026 09:19

Because they are "empowered" .
Apparently.

The girls I teach who come to school in loose trousers and DMs seem the most empowered to me. They don't care about the male gaze or how many boys fancy them. They're in the minority though.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 20/06/2026 09:22

ThriveAT · 20/06/2026 08:16

Yes, the school has been very measured. Nothing to complain about at all. Imo, the complaint culture amongst parents/ in schools is completely out of control. It just wears staff down and most complaints are just unnecessary.

Oh absolutely.

montysmaw · 20/06/2026 09:19

MagdaLenor · 19/06/2026 21:01

This. Why are schoolgirls dressing for the male gaze, in such a sexualised way, and why do people like the OP support and defend it, and criticise the school trying to stop it?

Because they are "empowered" .
Apparently.

montysmaw · 20/06/2026 09:16

Maybe they are just heart sick of bare arses on show.
Can you imagine a boy walking round school with his arse out?

MagdaLenor · 20/06/2026 09:06

ThriveAT · 20/06/2026 08:16

Yes, the school has been very measured. Nothing to complain about at all. Imo, the complaint culture amongst parents/ in schools is completely out of control. It just wears staff down and most complaints are just unnecessary.

Absolutely this. Many parents just don't realise what it's like and how inundated HTs - and other staff are - are with this kind of nonsense.
Genuine concerns, fine. However, the number of petty and inconsequential complaints ( usually ending "I await your prompt response") is growing.
I am glad that the OP has asked for advice on this, and doesn't complain.

Tepidwater · 20/06/2026 08:19

Bufftailed · 19/06/2026 22:50

That seems like quite sensitive wording, leaving it to parents to choose how to discuss

No matter what wording the school used, I suspect @GreenSalon would have started a thread about wanting to challenge the school about it

ThriveAT · 20/06/2026 08:16

Bufftailed · 19/06/2026 22:50

That seems like quite sensitive wording, leaving it to parents to choose how to discuss

Yes, the school has been very measured. Nothing to complain about at all. Imo, the complaint culture amongst parents/ in schools is completely out of control. It just wears staff down and most complaints are just unnecessary.

ladykale · 19/06/2026 23:20

Sorry but it is indecent dressing and not appropriate for school that I constantly see ass cheeks in morning when heading to school. Especially as lots of school skirts are flared / pleated and they insist on whether socks, it is indecent.

school rules should help teach what is / is not appropriate in the workplace imo.

Upskirting is also a thing.

CricketIsASport · 19/06/2026 23:10

ChalkOutlines · 19/06/2026 22:45

There’s plenty of stuff that’s distracting to boys in school. Like radiators (don’t ask!). Can’t remove them all. Grin

What would they find more distracting? What are they biologically wired to?

Bufftailed · 19/06/2026 22:50

That seems like quite sensitive wording, leaving it to parents to choose how to discuss

Allseeingallknowing · 19/06/2026 22:49

ChalkOutlines · 19/06/2026 22:45

There’s plenty of stuff that’s distracting to boys in school. Like radiators (don’t ask!). Can’t remove them all. Grin

I am asking about the radiators!

ChalkOutlines · 19/06/2026 22:45

CricketIsASport · 19/06/2026 22:04

Boys would get distracted though. It's a biological fact.

There’s plenty of stuff that’s distracting to boys in school. Like radiators (don’t ask!). Can’t remove them all. Grin

CricketIsASport · 19/06/2026 22:42

GreenSalon · 19/06/2026 22:29

Thank you. I’ve been on mumsnet for years and years and know what it’s got like recently. However I’m still surprised at the need to get personal for some.

Anyway I think I phrased it badly when IRL I don’t know if I could be bothered to actually email or write and also because I know the school has plenty on its plate. But when I posted earlier I’d just read the letter so maybe not my best idea to start my first ever AIBU post until I’d thought about it a bit more.

My DC and their female friends think the school letter is ridiculous but mainly because it’s not a massive thing in their school and skirt rolling mainly limited to a small number. Though prevailing view point on here still stands I guess.

Then the small number will learn to sort their dress issues out.. Those who dress normally have nothing to worry.

Allseeingallknowing · 19/06/2026 22:41

I posted in response to GreenSalon, but it disappeared- why?

GreenSalon · 19/06/2026 22:37

OtherS · 19/06/2026 22:02

Women/girls should be able to wear whatever they want without being accused of 'asking for it'. They (we) should be able to walk through town stark naked, and still not fear being sexually assaulted, as males should be entirely capable of controlling themselves. And if they are not capable of controlling themselves for some reason, they should not be allowed out unsupervised. I believe this absolutely.

But.

I still don't want to see anyone's arse on the street. It's not appropriate, and it is completely fine to demand basic standards of dress code are observed, as agreed by a society. Not because I want to rape them, not because I'll be having naughty thoughts about them - any more than if I saw a man walking down the street in a g-string. I'm really not worried I might be overcome with lust and throw myself at him, I would be repulsed. As I believe most people would, at least in the UK. Which is the same reaction if I see female bottoms. Just put them away girls.

(From an ex-avid skirt roller - but only ever to mid thigh at most!)

Fair enough.

On a related note, I was expecting a few more balanced responses like this even though you do think IBU. I said earlier, I didn’t post this seeking agreement and I realise I may have been having an over reaction to a reasonable request on the school’s part. Either that or having to wear an a line pinafore all through school that could not be shortened or rolled up in spite of all best efforts, means I’m still hankering after the freedom of having a school skirt that can.

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GreenSalon · 19/06/2026 22:29

Terfedout · 19/06/2026 22:16

Whilst I think yabu, your point of view is as valid as mine. And the way some people are talking to you on here is unreasonable.

Thank you. I’ve been on mumsnet for years and years and know what it’s got like recently. However I’m still surprised at the need to get personal for some.

Anyway I think I phrased it badly when IRL I don’t know if I could be bothered to actually email or write and also because I know the school has plenty on its plate. But when I posted earlier I’d just read the letter so maybe not my best idea to start my first ever AIBU post until I’d thought about it a bit more.

My DC and their female friends think the school letter is ridiculous but mainly because it’s not a massive thing in their school and skirt rolling mainly limited to a small number. Though prevailing view point on here still stands I guess.

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Terfedout · 19/06/2026 22:16

Whilst I think yabu, your point of view is as valid as mine. And the way some people are talking to you on here is unreasonable.

CricketIsASport · 19/06/2026 22:04

Boys would get distracted though. It's a biological fact.

OtherS · 19/06/2026 22:02

Women/girls should be able to wear whatever they want without being accused of 'asking for it'. They (we) should be able to walk through town stark naked, and still not fear being sexually assaulted, as males should be entirely capable of controlling themselves. And if they are not capable of controlling themselves for some reason, they should not be allowed out unsupervised. I believe this absolutely.

But.

I still don't want to see anyone's arse on the street. It's not appropriate, and it is completely fine to demand basic standards of dress code are observed, as agreed by a society. Not because I want to rape them, not because I'll be having naughty thoughts about them - any more than if I saw a man walking down the street in a g-string. I'm really not worried I might be overcome with lust and throw myself at him, I would be repulsed. As I believe most people would, at least in the UK. Which is the same reaction if I see female bottoms. Just put them away girls.

(From an ex-avid skirt roller - but only ever to mid thigh at most!)

Ponderingwindow · 19/06/2026 21:44

MrsShawnHatosy · 19/06/2026 20:22

Sorry but I disagree. Sanitary pads are both much thinner and much more absorbent than they were in the past and there is no reason why they should show under trousers.

Only if you are not allergic to the disposable pads and have periods that are only moderately heavy. Reusable plus truly heavy periods still means bulk.

MagdaLenor · 19/06/2026 21:44

You'd be challenging the patriarchy by supporting the school. Don't support the wearing of hyper sexualised clothing we see on so many girls and women.

ChalkOutlines · 19/06/2026 21:40

Mumtobabyhavoc · 19/06/2026 19:35

Send a letter. You don't need to be a mum of girls to challenge patriarchy.

Is it really challenging patriarchy allowing girls to wear skirts as short as they want? No matter how impractical or inappropriate it is?

The school didn’t say anything about the male gaze, about modesty , about distracting boys and male teachers or any of the other bs that DOES get my back up. They asked parents to explain to their children why it is a bad idea. Which they can do ( I have) without mentioning any of that .

Bothy · 19/06/2026 21:35

I rolled my pleated skirt over in 1973. It was only from mid calf to slightly above the knees, you got the cane if you were caught. Obviously not advocating that.

Yes they need to sort it out but I imagine schools are inundated with emails from parents about everything.
This is not a hill to die on as a parent.

ChalkOutlines · 19/06/2026 21:31

Violinorbanjo · 19/06/2026 20:13

Literally a man is a visual and sexual being. They do like bums. What is not to understand why young ladies should not be doing this to men

How the fuck did you manage to turn this into “poor men” ?