AIBU to challenge the school’s wording about pupils rolling skirts up?

Thank God! So many sane replies in contrast to a similar thread a few weeks ago where pps were claiming that young women shouldn't be discouraged from wearing this horrible fashion and that anyone objecting shouldn't look.

I think schools should move to an all trouser uniform. That'd sort it out.

To girls who want to show us their arse cheeks in a school context I would say: 99.9% of people don't want to see them, and as for the 0.1% who do...eeww...do you really want them to?

Yes.
Usually that's done at age 4 in primary schools !
Why is it perfectly normal to tell 4 year olds (male and female) we don't want to see their underwear yet teens we mustn't dare mention it.

I've had to correct DS. He gets flustered, is embarrassed, fixes it and moves on. He's not showing it off on purpose to get a reaction...

Indeed. Either they will appreciate you telling them, having been unaware, and will hastily correct it; or otherwise they won't care about others, or even be doing it deliberately, in which case they should be informed in a way that makes it clear it's not a socially-acceptable thing to do.

If someone is accidentally flashing their pants do you not think they might want to correct that......

Social etiquette and social norms are a thing.

I guess she was sitting cross legged in a skirt and you could see it. Some things aren't meant for public view 🤷‍♀️

“Looked at me like I was a dinosaur” doesn’t read that to me

shocked probably

anyway this is getting into daft speculation!

you would do this to a teen girl in public
I wouldn’t

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So much is really not on

nose picking
Eating With your mouth open
picking at a scab

but…. I wouldn’t tell avoid looking or move.

someone blocking a seat because they’ve put their feet on it? I’d say please can you get your feet off the chair

all I’m saying… to a teen girl I would not pick her up about how she’s sitting inappropriately . I just wouldn’t

Well considering that, from her reaction, she either couldn't care less about flashing everybody or was even doing it deliberately, maybe she does need people to tell her that it's not acceptable, rather than just leave her to totally ignore common decency and other people's feelings.

so fine if “please take your shoes off the seat”. Why? It’s written all over trains not to do this!

But that's not a general information sign - e.g. 'Ticket office this way' - it's a sign that should clearly not have to be there, but nevertheless does need to be there, because enough people don't understand the very basic skill of not putting your shoes on a seat where somebody else will be sitting, or simply don't care about anybody else who isn't them.

It's not like there are going to be loads of passengers wondering whether or not it's a 'shoes on the seat' train until they see the sign and realise that it isn't. It's like the signs telling dog walkers to pick up their pet's poo and bag it and bin it - there isn't anybody who genuinely doesn't know this.

Maybe the signs are put up in desperation; or maybe there's an element of shaming people for very poor behaviour that's involved. Either way, it's probably fruitless, as the kind of people at whom the signs are aimed will just ignore them; and the sort who do bother to read them will just be left wondering why on earth anybody would need a notice to tell them that extremely basic standard of common-sense behaviour.

but where is the definition for “correct way” ? There isn’t

so fine if “please take your shoes off the seat”. Why? It’s written all over trains not to do this!

someone picking their nose? Gross!! But I wouldn’t tell them to stop. I would avoid looking or move away

and I simply wouldn’t discipline a teen girl on public transport

but hey… we do things differently, no biggie

Poor schools: they can't win! . 'Pupils who choose to wear skirts' seems carefully and intelligently worded. The best schools have supportive, not pedantic, parents.

Yes because she's not sitting in a correct way and she's showing something. Better tell and then they can correct it.

Good, perhaps she won’t do it again!

I don't think they should impose themselves stringent rules on kids. Why even have uniform? I know of quite a few schools that don't and they're above average reputation wise.

Yes

and my opinion was you struggled to interpret what the school meant

but good old mumsnet put you straight

so happy ending and you won’t now waste the school’s a time with another complaint

13/14/15 year old girl, on public transport, a fellow traveller tells her to adjust how she’s sitting.

Yes, I do think that no on, most teen girls would have been mortified

We have had a spat of boys with trousers being worn balanced on their hips with boxers hanging out the top, I tell them off as much as I mention girls skirts.

With the girls I work on the basis that if they are having to check multiple times its not to far up (the girls walk around with one hand down their backs holding the skirts down) it probably is. It really isn't a good look seeing bum cheeks hanging out. As for the sweaty seats they leave behind - depending on the year group I may mention this in passing as it gives them the ick!

I particularly hate our school skorts - unbelievable short!

Can't see what OP did wrong. If a young girl was sitting in an very "unladylike" manner in public, nothing wrong with letting her know some bits that shouldn't be visible are showing . And no it won't stay with her for life. As with most things she'll move on and forget about it.

Oh you shouldn’t have done that.

That will stay with her for life and would have been mortifying for a teen.

You read the newsletter and didn’t grasp what it was saying instead seeing it as controlling and an affront to feminism.

So yes… you did appear to appear to * not have the capacity to draw the correct inference*

I did see everything on show travelling home on the train one afternoon as a school girl sat cross legged in the luggage rack. I politely told her she might want to sit differently and she looked at me like i was a dinosaur. As a mother of a primary school aged child i make mine wear cycling shorts under her skirt and tell her knickers should never be on show. A rule i plan to carry on when she goes to secondary school.

Your username is very misleading @Makingsenseofitall