AIBU to challenge the school’s wording about pupils rolling skirts up?

Teach boys and girls to dress respectfully at school. Young boys will obviously look, and I don't blame them. It's in their DNA.

Having to navigate conversations with girls who think displaying most of their anatomy to the rest of the school is fine, I’d say this is a welcome letter. I’m fed up with having to defend the poor eyes of everyone else who is accused of being a pervert if they happen to see unwelcome flesh.

Secondary teacher here - I've had to ask girls to roll down their skirts because you can see their underwear, so the school are not being unreasonable. Check the uniform policy - it will probably state that skirts need to ne knee length

What a well behaved young lady you were

It’s about self respect and I bloody hate the skirts pulled up to reveal underwear. I have a DD 14 who truly does not do this and thinks it looks awful. She likes to wear big and baggy clothes. But she is certainly an outsider because of her refusal to pull her skirt up. I personally think they should just all wear trousers as standard now. No I would not write. It’s a subject that needs addressing, maybe not blaming the girls for boys behaviour but just dressing with a bit of self respect. The same for boys who show half their arse but that’s generally not in school uniforms.

Like majority of others, I think YBU. I rolled up my skirt in high school like everyone else but the current situation is inappropriate and indecent. If roles were reversed and boys were walking around with their bums hanging out, there would be no debate - I’m pretty sure we would all agree it was not acceptable school attire.

To be fair… it does sound a bit creepy!

Teachers should stfu about shirts and trousers. Teach our kids, keep your unwanted and misogynistic opinions to yourself.

I see school girls wearing short skirts. So. What.

Teach young boys and men not to perv at young girls should be the priority.

The parents would be livid if you did that now!

Parents don't comply though. It doesn't matter how many letters we send out, reminders, detentions, the most common parental response is "we pick our battles".
In other words, they don't want to do anything.

Thankfully it wasn’t a thing when I was at school. We did have a headteacher who walked round with a ruler though. An inch out of line and you were sent home to change.

They need strict skirt length rules such as your skirt mustn’t be more than X cm above the knee and mustn’t be more than Ycm below the knee .
That was the rule at my girls schools .
This allows for growth spurts and some parents possibly getting a long skirt to last their child longer ( hopefully)
When I was young there was a fashion for midi skirts at high school for a while , some girls wore theirs too long and were tripping up on the stairs on them .
We weren’t allowed trousers back then .

Oh hush now with this nonsense

thankfully the op has seen the error of her ways

I can guarantee no way were you rolling them up as short as they are now

not. A. Chance

I think it’s a great idea to write and it’s because you have boys that is even a better one . Maybe teach that misogynistic head teacher why blaming girls for possible sexual abuse is wrong

Where have you all been? I was rolling my skirt up when I was 15 am 76 now
The only person who complained was my father !!!

When my DSs went to secondary school and we had the upcoming year 7 parent and student evening, the rules about skirts were "skirts must not be rolled up". No reason given, and there didn't need to be.

Showing your arse to strangers has never been part of the feminist movement.

We used to roll up our skirts at school but not so high you could see our arses! That’s the issue.

As girls we were forced to wear skirts to school no trousers allowed. Our skirts weren't allowed to be more than an inch above the knee. The disgusting comments we had to put up with walking to and from school from men was terrible. Sometimes the men had their children in the back of the car. It was obvious we were children, it was sickening. Its sad to hear its not much better now. I think all pupils should wear trousers at all schools. If it stops one sick pervert having any enjoyment it's worth it.

Honestly, it’s about self-respect. Women, i.e. young girls, should be told, it’s not acceptable to go for the hooker look, where your arzz is showing to everyone.

By someone saying this isn’t acceptable, it means they don’t go in the workplace thinking it’s ok to show to their Fanny & thinking micro skirts are ok.

It’s not about saying you should control yourselves - that’s true - but having dignity in your circumstances.

I have the same gripe with Asda selling sexy bikinis for 8-year olds.

The local comp flooding out at 3pm every day, and the teenage girls are wearing short shorts, ie jumbo knickers, and no, they aren’t going to the gym either.

Someone at home should be saying you ain’t going outside the house dressed like that.

It’s eye-popping attention grabbing, for men and women.

No wonder teachers are leaving the profession in record numbers and demanding body-cams.

Leaving out all the politics around how people OUGHT to behave and react, do you feel that ultra-short skirts ARE a good idea? If not, find a way to to present this to your daughter and stop quibbling.

Look, we all know that a girl should wear what she please, men shouldn’t look etc. But when I see a schoolgirl in a super short skirt I just feel sad. It’s sad that since I was in school society tells a girl they should wear skimpy clothes to look appealing. Maybe they just mean parents should encourage their children to dress appropriately and not adhere to the bullshit sheep mentality teenagers have.

My friend teaches a practical subject in a secondary school and has to regularly take girls aside to let them know she can see their underwear, bum cheeks and sometimes even more. Male teachers avoid going up the stairs at class change over time because they know they'll get an eyeful and want to avoid being accused of doing it deliberately. I don't think this is about short skirts making girls more vulnerable (although it almost certainly is) - it's about keeping your private parts covered in public and parents absolutely should be paying attention to that. You'd never let a teenage boy get away with having his willy hanging out his fly, and that's similar to the state of undress some girls are entering schools in.

This! Couldn't have said it any better!