AIBU to challenge the school’s wording about pupils rolling skirts up?

Well they should …. Mostly. By that I mean dressing appropriately for the occasion.

While that fashion trend is ridiculous (I believe it stems from hip hop culture where boys were emulating the loose orange jumpsuit uniform that's worn in US prisons), at least their flesh is covered!

I don't understand "feminists" who insist that girls and women should be allowed wear anything they want, no matter if their arses are hanging out in a school or work environment.

Clothing is power. Look at any movies set in ancient Rome, the masters are robed but the slaves are practically naked. Look at hip hop videos, the rappers are fully clothed but surrounded by practically naked women tweaking their arse. Look at those Robert Palmer and Robin Thicke music videos, they're fully suited & booted but surrounded by practically naked women.

That's what feminists don't seem to get: Clothing is power, lack of clothing is subservience.

What do you mean by "traditional uniforms"?
That is part of the problem - schools HAVE gone back to the "traditional" blazer, tie, tartan/plaid skirt, white socks combo - which is basically the stereotype "naughty schoolgirl" uniform (🤮🤢).
Do you mean go back to the 90s style of loose polo shirts and casual trousers?

I disagree with school uniform ridiculous rules in general. But I don’t want to see anyone’s arse cheeks when going about my business.

I wouldn’t want anybody’s sweaty arse cheeks on display or on seats - boys, girls, men or women. It’s really unpleasant.

In summer? Not here… in winter, yes, but for the last months it’s been socks, no tights. hence the problem.
And yes, their bum is on display, so is their thong. Which means their bare bum cheeks are on chairs, benches etc. Yuck

Lazy parenting.

Astoundingly, many parents do not want to 'parent' their kids. Many wouldn't even know where to begin.

I think it was quite clever to let the parents decide in what way it is a bad idea, some may think it's sluttish and gives men the wrong idea, others may think you may be bringing the school into disrepute (you are a role model for the school) or you are possibly revealing much more than you realise of your underwear and more, bending or climbing stairs etc. Or if the desired affect is to make you look more attractive a huge roll of material around your waist does nothing for you.

Absurd!

I witnessed this sight more times than I care to see while spending time in London.

Trousers or a knee-high skirt are perfectly fine. Boys in full uniform.

Any foul play with your uniform results in serious consequences.

It's an easy solution; however, schools do not want to deal with the backlash.

And this is a ridiculous thread .

They absolutely do not. I drive past 3 high schools on my way to work and all have girls wearing their skirts barely longer than their pants. It s really unsavoury and like many I don’t want to see it.All are ignoring the school dress code. Would love to see the reaction if boys wore voluminous shorts barely longer than their pants.

Gloriia · Today 18:58
Teachers should stfu about shirts and trousers. Teach our kids, keep your unwanted and misogynistic opinions to yourself.

And maybe parents need to do the same, and parent a bit more??

I think teachers might have a more informed perspective on this than you.
And apart from the exposed flesh controversy, it's good for teenagers to understand what's appropriate in different contexts. They'll be at work one day.

What's fine for a party or club isn't necessarily OK in school - or any context where people have no choice about being there. I think covering you private parts is a basic consideration for other people. Perving, as you put it, doesn't come into it. It's not about 'perving', it's about dressing appropriately for the context.

boys have been doing so for years with the ludicrous 'sag' fashion 👎🏾

Multiple detentions will unravel this.

To an extent I do agree with this, but not ankle skirts they're absurd, uncomfortable and extremely warm. Girls should just be allowed to wear trousers if they want to.

Oh no they don't!

You are being either very naive or disingenuous, and I don't know which.

Enforce knee length skirts…which they then roll up…

As a 30yr old lass, I also don't wish to see teens with their bums out. Quite apart from them clearly being absolutely freezing.

Yes. Enforce knee-length skirts. An easy solution to a very simple problem.

Why can't the school just forbid it? Skirts must be knee-length (or whatever), end of? The world's gone mad.

It wouldn't excuse anyone attacking us adults if we went to work showing our actual arses, but we'd be fools if we did that and expected to be taken seriously (and not disciplined). The idea of traditional UK school uniform has always been that it reflects adult professional attire. Nothing wrong with teaching kids of both sexes to have some respect for themselves and others, and to understand that the majority of people they meet do not wish to see their underwear (or even if they do, they shouldn't, in a place of work or education).

Of course, but unless the school is on board, nothing will change.

Boys should be able wear shorts, why not? Or do you think the female staff would feel uncomfortable at hairy legs on show?

There are parts of our bodies which are not normally on display to anyone except intimate partners. For safeguarding reasons children are taught what is appropriate for revealing/touching. There is no acceptable or benign reason for wanting to erode or break down these norms. Somehow our young women and teenagers have been conditioned to think that showing their intimate parts is empowering. I wonder who this benefits?

I would include all the women parading around hotel swimming pools in thong bikinis in this absolute con too. It isn’t empowering to have your arse on display and quite frankly flashing your undercarriage whenever you move around on your sunbed should be an indecency offence.

There's no need to be so inappropriate.

Yes, perverts have always existed; however, ill-fitting school uniforms further add to the problem.

Mini-skirts are NOT suitable garments.