AIBU to challenge the school’s wording about pupils rolling skirts up?

I know!

I actually find it quite strange/weird when grown adults are fighting for girls’ “right” to be as naked as they want , in any context. How does that actually benefit girls? Who does it benefit?

I don't think people are being unnecessarily crude. They are simply trying to explain why the rule is so necessary and the extent of the problem.

Yes, there's a poll, but there's also a comment section.

Unecessarily crude language to describe...er..well, not exactly.a vicar's tea party?

Unecessarily crude clothing will elicit crude descriptions, for sure.

How about 'the plump, peachy protuberant posterior portions of our young lasses peeping from a pretty peplum'. But that doesn't convey the unpleasant, crude and vulgar sight which the girls themselves have probably never seen unless they scrutinise themselves in a full-lenght mirror before leaving the house.

I'd like to know how you suggest the unpleasant sight is best described.

I haven't seen grown women with bare butts on show, though. Yes, I see some of those scrunch-bum leggings occasionally but I think adult women have enough nous to realise that baring their arse cheeks in public does send a message they probably don't want to send. Teenagers don't always have this life-experience, intelligence or sense of what's appropriate and need parental guidance, or school intervention if parents haven't done their job.

What’s wrong with the email? It’s a good idea and the responsibility of the school AND the parents to tell them.

I have seen very few women with skirts as short as pants with buttocks on show, Aside from the beach. where short shorts are mostly worn or longer sundresses aside form swimwear. Actually short shorts are better as they mostly clothe under wear properly. Teeny tiny skirts the same length as pants are 100 times worse as they float up with every step.

Well that would be an improvement on what I saw! The girls had no visible underwear - the skirt (for want of a better word) stopped halfway up their backsides and bare buttocks were on show just as they would be with a thong.

Because it’s deeply unpleasant and unhygienic to boot.

You’ve got your answer now leave them to do their job.

Absolutely right.

But the deluded will not be convinced, alas.

Seriously, back off. Stop staring and stop treating these girls like they are trying to entice the poor men.

@Gloriia

Yawn. For the hundredth time, it's not about people staring. It's about being forced to see things you really do not want to see. I know it may be hard for you to understand (because you keep coming back with the same insinuation that teachers and men in general are drooling as they follow pubescent girls up the stairs) but people don't want to see bare, fleshy buttocks, thanks very much.

And I don't want to sit on a chair that someone's bare arse has been on. Why is that so hard to understand? I have seen the 'thong with a frill' type skirts a few times and it's gross, tasteless, vulgar and totally inappropriate at school.

OK - I'm struggling to think of where it would be appropriate...er a porno film? But there is absolutely no place for it at school. I'm a straight woman and I flinch when I see this sight. It's just embarrassing, not arousing, for 99.9 % of people, and inconsiderate to foist it on us.

Faux outrage over words like “private parts” and “bum cheeks” isn’t going to get your point across. How else would you describe it?

Tell me why it’s a good idea then for girls to wear very short skirts. The language is neutral in terms of sexism, because it IS a bad idea from various points of view , not just the one you and OP jumped at , and wasn’t actually mentioned by the school.

I think they mean it is not a good idea because you can see their underwear. And it is hardly a smart look for school!

OP, I think you’re getting a bit of a tough time here. I agree, the letter is shoddy. I would be calling up the school and asking them to explain exactly what they mean by “not a good idea”. Get them to articulate their own sexism and victim blaming.

This isn’t new. I have friends a bit older than me, who in the 60’s had to kneel down at school, and a teacher would measure the distance between the skirt hem and the knee. More than a certain measurement and you were in detention!
In the 70s we were into midi length skirts and were told to shorten them!

Wow they wear them to show there ass cheeks in the Uk?
Oh now thats tacky and its a school uniform surely it should be at a certain length for dignity... but then again parents whinging how the letters worded no wonder.

I was on an escalator only last week and ahead of me was a young girl whose bare bottom was clearly visible under her very short skirt. I assume she was wearing a thong but she looked naked under the skirt. It wasn’t a sight I could have avoided due to the safety requirement of keeping my eyes open and looking ahead whilst ascending an escalator.

I’m still waiting for at least one positive of girls wearing really tiny skirts.

I don't think any of them have underwear on show, the my DD & her friends all wear shorts under thier skirt.
In PE they are required to wear really really short skorts.
The boys walk around with thier pants on show and bums out.
There has to be some equality.

My husband and I were in the City Centre yesterday celebrating a freinds birthday. We forgot TRANSMT. Was on in the green. Theee was a lovely looking young lass walking in front of us. She had on black knickers and a sandal strap top.!. She was literally only half dressed. So vulnerable! I couldnt stop thinking about her. I hope she got home safely. The town was a zoo last night.

This!