AIBU to challenge the school’s wording about pupils rolling skirts up?

The Asshole I assume?

What does TA mean in this context?

You are almost always, 99% of the time, being TA if you challenge a school’s enforcement of its rules. Teachers have way, way more than enough on their plates without keyboard warrior parents, who’ve usually never worked in a school, going on a crusade about every little thing. Support teachers, don’t add to their problems.

The girls at my local school have their skirts so short, it’s awful. When they sit on a chair, their underwear must touch the seat rather than the skirt. It’s unhygienic.

I feel the school should address this with the girls during their pastoral care lesson. My daughters went to an all girls school and these lessons spoke frankly about all sorts of things including abusive coercive relationships as discussions. This issue is down to peer pressure.
we have all been teenagers and took no heed of parents in matters of wearing make up short skirts or smoking behind the bike sheds. The moment they step out of the house and are around the corner…..

When looking for a secondary school we are impressed when we see good uniform out and around the local area. In fact there is a general correlation of good uniform = good behaviour. Then our own DC start the school and we wish they could do as they please.

I get the fact hormones are raging and they want to look attractive (slightly ick when it starts when they’re 11 years old), but sometimes and I appreciate they don’t want to and shouldn’t need to be protected from predatory behaviour from boys AND girls, but also setting an example about sometimes less is more etc.
When their blazer is longer than the skirt and seeing a thong and not the under shorts we think they are all wearing, sometimes as adults we need to offer a layer of protection as well as enforcing school uniform rules.

If something did happen say from a passing van, the first to blame would be the school for not enforcing something. Schools cannot win.

As long as you’re not complaining about the wording of “pupil who choose to wear skirts” which is perfectly acceptable wording (some boys may choose skirts, some girls may choose trousers), then I’d probably send a letter asking them to consider how this message was communicated and about victim-blaming and shaming.

FGS this isn’t even an issue you need to be concerned about if you’ve got boys. It’s not sexism at all to say ‘don’t roll your skirt up’. It’s an age old thing too. My mum now in her seventies said she used to do it. School sets the rules, they’ve said no. Leave it

YABU
I think it’s a terrible look and it also looks very cheap.
It always has and always will imo.

Ah I remember the tie thing. A certain amount of stripes had to be showing below the knot DD1 was a regular offender. However the school " stopped caring" about it and the impetus to play silly buggers with the tie and many kids didn't bother after

One thing to roll up your skirt by a few inches but surely you have eyes and have seen what’s been going on recently?

Who measures it, throughout the day?

Suspect you’ve either not read the full thread or haven’t seen for yourself how ridiculous the situation now is. This is not your run of the mill skirt rolling that you or I (at high school in the early 00s) experienced. They are now so short it is essentially indecent exposure.

I'm sorry, but no they didn't. If they did what is being discussed here, wow- that would have been headline news in those days!

If you've seen the sort of 'skirt' referred to here, you will know. And you won't be able to unsee it...😮

Is this not an issue as old as time?!
I'm 54 and my mates at school did it. I didn't. I didn't have the confidence, but my DSis did. My DM said they all did it in the 60s.

While I agree with Cricket really...

...when I was teaching, I did sometimes have Walter Mitty daydream of making it a school rule for shirts ALWAYS to be untucked and hanging down. That would undoubtedly make all the students tuck them in!

Yes, some kids will rebel against their uniform rules but in my day it was just making your tie fat with a big knot. No-one could touch you for it, because it was just a knotted tie.

Fiddling with your tie and turning over the hem of your ordinary skirt to make it a couple of inches shorter is of a different order to putting the cheeks of your backside on public display though. Why people cannot see this, I just don't know. I think they fall into 2 categories:

• knee-jerk ultra feminists who just swallow the mantra that women can wear what they like and
• parents who encourage their children to rebel and whose motto is 'You can't tell my kid what to do!' Heard that a few times. Actually, I think they'll find that teachers can.

No

Maybe just allow it. If it wasn't " forbidden " then it's less attractive to teenagers.

Honestly girls should be allowed to wear what they like skirt wise whilst adhering to a sensible uniform policy.

@Gloriia can you expand on what you think “sensible uniform policy” looks like? Given you think also that girls should be able to wear whatever length skirt they wish to to school?

Schools can “police” bad language for example. So why can’t the “police” the dress code?

What did your teacher friend about your AIBU re wanting to challenge the school about the very sensible wording they used @GreenSalon ?

Oh give it a rest. Nobody wants to see girls wearing skirts that look more like belts and show their knickers.

That would seem reasonable and sensible from the school, I agree.

Also, why punish the girls who aren’t doing anything wrong by forcing them to wear trousers?

That’s just ending up with the same issue though? School policing children’s clothing , the reasons why, accusations of sexism and bad wording because skin tight trousers/cheap, see through leggings are a bad idea.