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AIBU to challenge the school’s wording about pupils rolling skirts up?

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GreenSalon · 19/06/2026 17:50

Weekly newsletter today from DC’s secondary school contained a paragraph on uniform including the fact that there have been complaints from the public about “pupils who choose to wear skirts” rolling them up to wear them extremely short. It finishes with asking parents to speak to their children about why this is “not a good idea”.

Now, apart from the fact I assume that they must mean girls, is this not clearly implying that short skirts = making themselves vulnerable and if is, then if anything bad happens as a result it is their own fault? I thought we had moved beyond this kind of nonsense.

I only have boys at the school not girls but want to write to the head to point out how utterly sexist this is. DH agrees with me pov but thinks I shouldn’t write. AIBU?

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Allseeingallknowing · 22/06/2026 18:31

CricketIsASport · 22/06/2026 18:29

Don't we also not like and judge young boys or men who walk down with hands down their pants?

It’s not a nice sight either, but at least their genitals aren’t on show!

CricketIsASport · 22/06/2026 18:29

Don't we also not like and judge young boys or men who walk down with hands down their pants?

CoffeeCantata · 22/06/2026 18:29

The more Gloriia posts, the more I wonder if she is also under a misapprehension about what's being discussed here. Some pps are under the impression that what is being criticised by others is the rolling up of skirts to be a bit shorter than regulation.

No - that's not what I'm on about. I just wonder if Gloriia realises this because the two things are of a different order. Nearly all teenage girls might hitch up their skirts a bit and if they have opaque tights on, it's usually a non-issue.

But I cannot believe anyone, least of all a parent, would condone the extremely revealing kind of skirt and no-tights (and sometimes very little knicker...) which is under discussion.

CoffeeCantata · 22/06/2026 18:24

Gloriia · 22/06/2026 16:53

'Primates advertising sexual readiness?'

Confused

Yes - have you not been watching your David Attenborough?

Come on, now - please keep up!

CoffeeCantata · 22/06/2026 18:22

Gloriia · 22/06/2026 16:53

'Ass exposing skirts' 'Teenage girls are like primates flashing', 'what are the girls communicating??'.

I can't get over the absolute mockery of young girls on here.

They aren't 'communicating anything' they are just showing off to their peers. They certainly arent asking for anything if that is what a pp means with the faux innocent 'but what are they trying to tell us' questioning.

Some men on the other hand with their <checks notes> 'uncomfortable feelings' are communicating exactly what is on their creepy minds.

Oh, Gloriia! You must have been a trial for your own teachers...now you know that's not what I said. Dearie me.

I'm not mocking young women...I'm trying to point out the absurdity of what a small minority of teenage girls do. I assume it's a very small minority?? I've seen 4 examples at close range (eeeuuww) and wish I hadn't, but don't know how widespread the issue is.

Pointing out absurd behaviour is allowed. It doesn't equate to mocking all young women, as you innaccurately put it.

CricketIsASport · 22/06/2026 18:16

Gloriia · 22/06/2026 17:58

We're talking about secondary school children. So, young girls.

Anyway. Young girls/teens/young women whatever. None are like primates waving their 'sweaty arse cheeks' about to 'communicate something'

Their arse cheeks are out.... And if it's a fashion statement or a bit of rebellion they are trying say something. Even if it's a "look at me I'm so cool"

Plantchoc · 22/06/2026 18:02

I’m right in reading that your own daughters never did this @Gloriia and adhered strictly with uniform code ?

Gloriia · 22/06/2026 17:58

HumberSquid · 22/06/2026 17:44

No one here is talking about young girls. We are talking about older girls or, if you prefer, young women.

We're talking about secondary school children. So, young girls.

Anyway. Young girls/teens/young women whatever. None are like primates waving their 'sweaty arse cheeks' about to 'communicate something'

Didimum · 22/06/2026 17:57

I think you're reading too far into it. 'Not a good idea' can certainly apply elsewhere. A uniform isn't an opportunity to personally express yourself – it's a symbol of the institution to which it belongs.

Intentionally wearing a uniform incorrectly is disrespectful, unprofessional, creates a distraction for the person wearing it, misrepresents the school, and discourages responsibility and expectations.

I'm sure you can find something that 'isn't a good idea' in all that.

HumberSquid · 22/06/2026 17:44

Gloriia · 22/06/2026 17:01

Oh dear. Searching my previous posts to try for a gotcha.

This is not the same as all the awful language used on here about 'sweaty arse cheeks' and comparing young girls to primates. My 'daft and silly' not in the same ball park sneery wise. 10/10 for effort though that was a good few months ago wasn't it?

Do you gave a dryrobe perchance and feeling a bit sensitive?

No one here is talking about young girls. We are talking about older girls or, if you prefer, young women.

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CricketIsASport · 22/06/2026 17:14

Gloriia · 22/06/2026 17:01

Oh dear. Searching my previous posts to try for a gotcha.

This is not the same as all the awful language used on here about 'sweaty arse cheeks' and comparing young girls to primates. My 'daft and silly' not in the same ball park sneery wise. 10/10 for effort though that was a good few months ago wasn't it?

Do you gave a dryrobe perchance and feeling a bit sensitive?

Again the language is entirely accurate. Arse cheeks are out and girls and behaving like primates (showing their bums for all the world to see).

CricketIsASport · 22/06/2026 17:11

Gloriia · 22/06/2026 16:53

'Ass exposing skirts' 'Teenage girls are like primates flashing', 'what are the girls communicating??'.

I can't get over the absolute mockery of young girls on here.

They aren't 'communicating anything' they are just showing off to their peers. They certainly arent asking for anything if that is what a pp means with the faux innocent 'but what are they trying to tell us' questioning.

Some men on the other hand with their <checks notes> 'uncomfortable feelings' are communicating exactly what is on their creepy minds.

They are being "mocked" because they are dressing in a ludicrous and inappropriate way.

They are showing off to everyone by showing their underwear? I don't think 🩲 is anything to show off about? If boys/men were walking around naked or showing off their willy size we'd quite rightly feel perturbed. Then again, guess we should just not look and control whatever feelings we have?

Talltreesbythelake · 22/06/2026 17:02

Avezaveza · 22/06/2026 16:58

Only girls do this though

Yes, female mammals 'present' their sexual parts to the male.

NovemberMorn · 22/06/2026 17:02

Gloriia · 22/06/2026 14:11

'The girls should be dressings respectfully and definitely not just be "dressing as they please". The same reason they shouldn't be wearing a bikini in school even if they really want to'

I said 'in other areas' girls dress as they please so these poor uncomfortable boys will have to cope with a thigh once in sixth form/"college"/grammar school/ whatever you want to call it.

Dress codes can be encouraged without the hysterical bare arsed/sweaty/bare bummed body shaming spouted throughout this frothing thread.

Who suggested wearing a biking to school? What have bikinis got to do with anything?

Maybe the young girls who show their arses in a school uniform should be body shamed.
It might teach them to respect their own bodies more rather than give every bystander a free show...most of whom don't want to see it anyway.

Gloriia · 22/06/2026 17:01

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Oh dear. Searching my previous posts to try for a gotcha.

This is not the same as all the awful language used on here about 'sweaty arse cheeks' and comparing young girls to primates. My 'daft and silly' not in the same ball park sneery wise. 10/10 for effort though that was a good few months ago wasn't it?

Do you gave a dryrobe perchance and feeling a bit sensitive?

Turntheswitch · 22/06/2026 17:01

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Allseeingallknowing · 22/06/2026 16:59

CoffeeCantata · 22/06/2026 16:15

This is the problem - they are unaware, I guess, of the semiology of their clothing choices. And that's where parents and other adults need to advise them. We all know that behaviour (in this case, clothing) is communication - we're always being told that in education. So what are the girls communicating here? I'm sure most of them just want to impress their peers - other girls, usually, but they are inevitably very naive.

I honestly don't think they intend to give the signals that others will pick up from their clothing.

I think they are fully aware of wheat they are doing and the impact of it.
To think otherwise is naive!

Avezaveza · 22/06/2026 16:58

Talltreesbythelake · 22/06/2026 16:58

It is the literal truth. We are a primate species and teenagers who have come to maturity are signalling this by wanting to dress like the adults they see in media. Otherwise we would have 9 year olds trying to show off their bums, which we don't, thank goodness.

Only girls do this though

Talltreesbythelake · 22/06/2026 16:58

Gloriia · 22/06/2026 16:53

'Primates advertising sexual readiness?'

Confused

It is the literal truth. We are a primate species and teenagers who have come to maturity are signalling this by wanting to dress like the adults they see in media. Otherwise we would have 9 year olds trying to show off their bums, which we don't, thank goodness.

Avezaveza · 22/06/2026 16:55

GreenSalon · 19/06/2026 17:50

Weekly newsletter today from DC’s secondary school contained a paragraph on uniform including the fact that there have been complaints from the public about “pupils who choose to wear skirts” rolling them up to wear them extremely short. It finishes with asking parents to speak to their children about why this is “not a good idea”.

Now, apart from the fact I assume that they must mean girls, is this not clearly implying that short skirts = making themselves vulnerable and if is, then if anything bad happens as a result it is their own fault? I thought we had moved beyond this kind of nonsense.

I only have boys at the school not girls but want to write to the head to point out how utterly sexist this is. DH agrees with me pov but thinks I shouldn’t write. AIBU?

I think it’s internalized misogyny that theyfeel the need to do this.
I am a feminist and women should wear and do as they please.but when

a) nearly all the girls around the country are doing exactly same thing it’s not truly freedom of expression is it

b) when I have to look away on the street because I can see girls underwear or gussets of tights it’s not great.

c) boys don’t over sexualize their uniform do they, there’s an expectation right there. only on girls

personally I think they should do away with uniform and introduced no logo jeans and t shirts and hoodies of their choice both girls and boys

Turntheswitch · 22/06/2026 16:55

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Gloriia · 22/06/2026 16:53

'Primates advertising sexual readiness?'

Confused
Gloriia · 22/06/2026 16:53

'Ass exposing skirts' 'Teenage girls are like primates flashing', 'what are the girls communicating??'.

I can't get over the absolute mockery of young girls on here.

They aren't 'communicating anything' they are just showing off to their peers. They certainly arent asking for anything if that is what a pp means with the faux innocent 'but what are they trying to tell us' questioning.

Some men on the other hand with their <checks notes> 'uncomfortable feelings' are communicating exactly what is on their creepy minds.