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AIBU to challenge the school’s wording about pupils rolling skirts up?

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GreenSalon · 19/06/2026 17:50

Weekly newsletter today from DC’s secondary school contained a paragraph on uniform including the fact that there have been complaints from the public about “pupils who choose to wear skirts” rolling them up to wear them extremely short. It finishes with asking parents to speak to their children about why this is “not a good idea”.

Now, apart from the fact I assume that they must mean girls, is this not clearly implying that short skirts = making themselves vulnerable and if is, then if anything bad happens as a result it is their own fault? I thought we had moved beyond this kind of nonsense.

I only have boys at the school not girls but want to write to the head to point out how utterly sexist this is. DH agrees with me pov but thinks I shouldn’t write. AIBU?

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AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 22/06/2026 19:36

GreenSalon · 22/06/2026 19:25

Yes I said few. Not a few.

Usually most people understand that phrase to mean such a small number it is hardly worth bothering about.

What? So if you 'only' see a few girls exposing themselves, it doesn't matter?

Does that also apply to the dirty old men flashing in the park - that the vast majority of men there are perfectly decently dressed and acting completely harmlessly, so the odd one doing that is nothing to care about?

CricketIsASport · 22/06/2026 19:30

GreenSalon · 22/06/2026 19:25

Yes I said few. Not a few.

Usually most people understand that phrase to mean such a small number it is hardly worth bothering about.

Then they will be in trouble and those who followed the uniform rule and dress code have nothing to worry about

Plantchoc · 22/06/2026 19:30

Did you teacher friend say you should or should not challenge the school?

Plantchoc · 22/06/2026 19:29

GreenSalon · 22/06/2026 19:25

Yes I said few. Not a few.

Usually most people understand that phrase to mean such a small number it is hardly worth bothering about.

But you raised having seen skirts so short that you can see underwear
and my point is…that set the ball rolling on all the descriptions you find so awful

Allseeingallknowing · 22/06/2026 19:28

Gloriia · 22/06/2026 18:44

I certainly wasn't a 'trial for my own teachers' thanks. Ae you suggesting I'm thick now that I'm the only one to challenge your weird monkey likening?

Likening girls behaviour to that of moneys is neither nice, appropriate or relevant. Did I see you were an ex teacher?

There are definitely similarities, we are all animals!

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 22/06/2026 19:28

herewegoagainonwednesday · 22/06/2026 19:07

They are intentionally mooning. Bad in boys, bad in girls. Don’t care who does it, mooning is indecent exposure and as such not something i want to see. The end.

I think the simple answer is to say that skirts must be knee length, and no underwear must be on show - and this applies to both sexes. Break the rules - get a detention.

Allseeingallknowing · 22/06/2026 19:26

CricketIsASport · 22/06/2026 18:42

PP on here might thing we should just ignore they are doing whatever they want with their bodies right?

Impossible when thrust at you!

GreenSalon · 22/06/2026 19:25

Plantchoc · 22/06/2026 19:06

but I should say few are wearing skirts so short you can see underwear and the majority wear tights.

well you said this very early on and I guess it set the tone

Yes I said few. Not a few.

Usually most people understand that phrase to mean such a small number it is hardly worth bothering about.

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OriginalUsername2 · 22/06/2026 19:20

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 19/06/2026 18:02

No I wouldn’t complain. My child’s school has the same problem with girls rolling their skirts up so high that knickers are on display at the back. It’s such a problem the school are considering a uniform change to trousers only.

This is the logical solution. Stop the problem once and for all.

herewegoagainonwednesday · 22/06/2026 19:07

Gloriia · 22/06/2026 17:58

We're talking about secondary school children. So, young girls.

Anyway. Young girls/teens/young women whatever. None are like primates waving their 'sweaty arse cheeks' about to 'communicate something'

They are intentionally mooning. Bad in boys, bad in girls. Don’t care who does it, mooning is indecent exposure and as such not something i want to see. The end.

Plantchoc · 22/06/2026 19:06

GreenSalon · 22/06/2026 19:04

Actually having started the thread about the wording of an email I can confirm that it was indeed about the act of girls “rolling their skirts up to be a bit shorter than regulation”. I think I may also have said somewhere that the majority of the girls doing so wear black tights too. Perhaps I should have made that clearer.

Nevertheless it is astonishing to me how quickly the majority of posters jumped to talking about “sweaty arse cheeks”, “flashing knickers” and “privates on display” and pages and pages of similar language including comparing girls and young women to primates. Yes as someone pointed out earlier, this is a site that allows comment and debate and differing of opinions but some people on this thread have lost the run of themselves.

but I should say few are wearing skirts so short you can see underwear and the majority wear tights.

well you said this very early on and I guess it set the tone

Plantchoc · 22/06/2026 19:05

How did your teacher friend respond when you showed her the newsletter and said you you thinking of challenging the school @GreenSalon ?

GreenSalon · 22/06/2026 19:04

CoffeeCantata · 22/06/2026 18:29

The more Gloriia posts, the more I wonder if she is also under a misapprehension about what's being discussed here. Some pps are under the impression that what is being criticised by others is the rolling up of skirts to be a bit shorter than regulation.

No - that's not what I'm on about. I just wonder if Gloriia realises this because the two things are of a different order. Nearly all teenage girls might hitch up their skirts a bit and if they have opaque tights on, it's usually a non-issue.

But I cannot believe anyone, least of all a parent, would condone the extremely revealing kind of skirt and no-tights (and sometimes very little knicker...) which is under discussion.

Actually having started the thread about the wording of an email I can confirm that it was indeed about the act of girls “rolling their skirts up to be a bit shorter than regulation”. I think I may also have said somewhere that the majority of the girls doing so wear black tights too. Perhaps I should have made that clearer.

Nevertheless it is astonishing to me how quickly the majority of posters jumped to talking about “sweaty arse cheeks”, “flashing knickers” and “privates on display” and pages and pages of similar language including comparing girls and young women to primates. Yes as someone pointed out earlier, this is a site that allows comment and debate and differing of opinions but some people on this thread have lost the run of themselves.

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CricketIsASport · 22/06/2026 18:57

I don't understand what @Gloriia wants. Her DDs followed the rules. She supports enforcement of a dress code. Just you're not supposed to enforce it too hard or something?

CricketIsASport · 22/06/2026 18:55

Gloriia · 22/06/2026 18:40

They might have whilst at school but I doubt it. They all wore tights at our schools anyway so 'sweaty cheeks' and these traumatising gussets would never have been visible. I wouldn't ever judge girls as nastily as has been evident on this thread though whatever the uniform was.

My point is teachers should teach. Full stop. I have no interest in their opinions on school attire or men's 'uncomfortable feelings'.

The right colour and emblem should suffice.

Teachers should teach yes. And also discipline rule breakers. Most people in work can handle multiple responsibilities.

Teachers can and should do many other things. Give career advice, help plan societies. Run and organise trips. Teachers should do safeguarding and do pastoral support.

Plantchoc · 22/06/2026 18:54

Gloriia · 22/06/2026 18:53

Sorry, what?

You say you want teachers to teach.

However you also say that you think most of your kid’s teachers failed in that respect.

but you did the square root of nothing.

and you are fighting on behalf of girls that weren’t anything like your own (in fact you claim to have never ever seen what we describe)… who toddled off to school every day conforming precisely to uniform code

Plantchoc · 22/06/2026 18:53

Gloriia · 22/06/2026 18:52

Safeguarding fine, obviously <backtracking from your monkey comparison and pretending to understand safeguarding?> mocking and judging young girls as we've seen alleged ex teachers do here, not so fine.

I shouldn't have to 'lobby' anyone just stop sending out tedious emails about lunch boxes, socks, trousers and skirts and teach our kids.

But you never ever contacted your kids schools about any of these issues despite being pissed off about them (on mumsnet at least)

Gloriia · 22/06/2026 18:53

Plantchoc · 22/06/2026 18:50

But you weren’t even happy with most of your kids teacher’s teaching but you’re more exercised on this thread than you were in RL by that situation by the sounds of it

and so your never ever saw your daughter leave your home not conforming to the uniform code. Ok, right so that’s where you’re coming from

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Sorry, what?

Gloriia · 22/06/2026 18:52

CoffeeCantata · 22/06/2026 18:45

My point is teachers should teach. Full stop.

And I'm sure they'd love their responsibilities to stop there too.

Do you not realise the huge responsibility for safeguarding which teachers have nowadays?

If you think all these extra worries should be taken off their workload, please lobby the Education Secretary - I'm sure teachers would be delighted!

Safeguarding fine, obviously <backtracking from your monkey comparison and pretending to understand safeguarding?> mocking and judging young girls as we've seen alleged ex teachers do here, not so fine.

I shouldn't have to 'lobby' anyone just stop sending out tedious emails about lunch boxes, socks, trousers and skirts and teach our kids.

Plantchoc · 22/06/2026 18:50

Gloriia · 22/06/2026 18:40

They might have whilst at school but I doubt it. They all wore tights at our schools anyway so 'sweaty cheeks' and these traumatising gussets would never have been visible. I wouldn't ever judge girls as nastily as has been evident on this thread though whatever the uniform was.

My point is teachers should teach. Full stop. I have no interest in their opinions on school attire or men's 'uncomfortable feelings'.

The right colour and emblem should suffice.

But you weren’t even happy with most of your kids teacher’s teaching but you’re more exercised on this thread than you were in RL by that situation by the sounds of it

and so your never ever saw your daughter leave your home not conforming to the uniform code. Ok, right so that’s where you’re coming from

CoffeeCantata · 22/06/2026 18:48

Gloriia · 22/06/2026 18:44

I certainly wasn't a 'trial for my own teachers' thanks. Ae you suggesting I'm thick now that I'm the only one to challenge your weird monkey likening?

Likening girls behaviour to that of moneys is neither nice, appropriate or relevant. Did I see you were an ex teacher?

Humans are primates - Great Apes, in fact, along with gorillas, chimps and orangs.

Of course we share many behaviours with our primate relations. The human smile, for example, is related to the chimp's drawing back of its teeth to warn others off. It's really interesting, primate behaviour.

Why do you object to the comparison? It's nature/science.

CoffeeCantata · 22/06/2026 18:45

My point is teachers should teach. Full stop.

And I'm sure they'd love their responsibilities to stop there too.

Do you not realise the huge responsibility for safeguarding which teachers have nowadays?

If you think all these extra worries should be taken off their workload, please lobby the Education Secretary - I'm sure teachers would be delighted!

Gloriia · 22/06/2026 18:44

CoffeeCantata · 22/06/2026 18:22

Oh, Gloriia! You must have been a trial for your own teachers...now you know that's not what I said. Dearie me.

I'm not mocking young women...I'm trying to point out the absurdity of what a small minority of teenage girls do. I assume it's a very small minority?? I've seen 4 examples at close range (eeeuuww) and wish I hadn't, but don't know how widespread the issue is.

Pointing out absurd behaviour is allowed. It doesn't equate to mocking all young women, as you innaccurately put it.

I certainly wasn't a 'trial for my own teachers' thanks. Ae you suggesting I'm thick now that I'm the only one to challenge your weird monkey likening?

Likening girls behaviour to that of moneys is neither nice, appropriate or relevant. Did I see you were an ex teacher?

CricketIsASport · 22/06/2026 18:42

Allseeingallknowing · 22/06/2026 18:31

It’s not a nice sight either, but at least their genitals aren’t on show!

PP on here might thing we should just ignore they are doing whatever they want with their bodies right?

Gloriia · 22/06/2026 18:40

Plantchoc · 22/06/2026 18:02

I’m right in reading that your own daughters never did this @Gloriia and adhered strictly with uniform code ?

They might have whilst at school but I doubt it. They all wore tights at our schools anyway so 'sweaty cheeks' and these traumatising gussets would never have been visible. I wouldn't ever judge girls as nastily as has been evident on this thread though whatever the uniform was.

My point is teachers should teach. Full stop. I have no interest in their opinions on school attire or men's 'uncomfortable feelings'.

The right colour and emblem should suffice.