To wonder why people jump to calling people who murder other prisoners heros?

When an awful person is murdered either in prison or out in society, I don't think it's bad to be quietly relieved about it. But celebrating their murderer is grotesque, when usually that murderer is just as awful as their victim.

Hopefully when people call for these prison murderers to have their sentences reduced they're really using that as a way of expressing their approval of the death, rather than a serious suggestion. It would be ridiculous to put out the message in Category A prisons that if you kill one of your fellow inmates it can be a way of reducing your time.

Will you offer to go in afterwards and drag all the dead bodies out and clean it up, ready for the next round? And will you volunteer to decide who goes in to this battle venue? Or is just every single person who commits murde etc? And do you really want to live in a medieval society that supports this? Do you want it live streamed? Or a viewing gallery for the relatives? I get the emotion that sits behind your view but I bet you wouldn't actually want this to happen?

@Octavia64

But earlier on, you said that "heroes kill bad people."

So isn't that contradictory?

I don’t think these men are heroes. That said I’m not lamenting the death of that awful man. I used to be quite anti death penalty but I think I’ve been worn down by an endless stream of awfulness.

There’s a bit of me that would quite happily agree to let the men who are convicted of horrendous crimes to be dropped off on some remote island somewhere and just let them kill each other off. We could leave some snozzcumber seeds,

@faithfultoGeorgeMichael

Given that in many cases, the prisoners who kill child abusers and murderers are also themselves child abusers and murderers, shouldn't you also want them dead?

This thread isn't criticising people for hating child abusers and murderers and taking pleasure in them being killed. It's pointing out that the prisoners who killed them have almost always committed the same crimes themselves against innocent victims.

How do you think the victims of the prisoner murderers feel if they see/hear others calling them heroes? Their suffering (or those of their loved ones) is being unfairly disregarded.

Prisons should be as safe as possible, where assaults are able to happen the staff are in danger. So not only are some people pro-murder and pro releasing murderers and rapists, they’re also pro putting prison staff in danger.

Oddly the people who see these as heroes don’t work in prisons or offer to house offenders after early release, funny that.

If anyone gets their sentence reduced for murdering another prisoner, the prisons would be emptied by 50% within days, and then everyone would get out. Ridiculous!

YANBU
No, they are not heros. They are murderers. Killing other prisoners will increase their sentences and rightly so because they are clearly very dangerous.

I won’t celebrate this type of thing, but I have no sympathy for paedophiles and child killers.

There is a certain poetic justice when the sort of violent, disturbed adult male who abuses, harms, hurts or murders defenceless children meets their fate at the hands of other violent, psychopathic, murdering males.

What did you expect me to to call him?
Any right minded person knows what he was. What would be the point in filling my post with a string of invective against him when I'm sure most people can supply their own.

Because they think the more blood thirsty the revenge they advocate for a perpetrator, the more caring of the victims it makes them look.
Its a weird type of virtue signalling where they get to indulge themselves in cheering on heinous criminals to acts of violence, while claiming to be better than the people who don't think is ideal for murders to be allowed to commit additional murders at his majesty's pleasure.

I think describing IH as “obnoxious” is possibly the understatement of the year.

I mean I don't want them released early or have their sentences reduced but I am hoping the absolute monster that killed baby Preston meets a very horrible end in prison or at least spends the rest of his days living in absolute fear just like that poor baby did!!

But OP isn’t criticising people for wishing them dead.
Is it a liberal opinion to think that a rapist and multiple murderer shouldn’t have their sentence reduced??

Killing bad people is neither necessary nor sufficient for heroic status.

I don't believe they should have their sentences reduced.

I do believe that one less child molester isn't a bad thing.

True 'lifers' have nothing to lose by doing these kinds of things, and I do sort of see it as their way of doing some sort of community service. They have committed an atrocity and will never be released, so why not clear up some mess along the way 🤷‍♀️

I wouldn't call them heroes at all, but neither do I lose sleep thinking about the 'prison justice' doled out to violent offenders, if I'm completely honest. I also support the idea of capital punishment in cases where there is no doubt of guilt.

ETA: Anyone suggesting that the prisoners committing these murders should be released from prison or in any way rewarded is nuts, though. That's perfectly clear to anyone with a functioning brain.

Because humans are vengeful animals and they are blowing off some steam in an anon forum.
Thinking you are morally superior for your more liberal views is part of the reason there is so much division and hate in this country at the moment. People are allowed to despise child abusers and murderers and wish them dead. It is a perfectly logical position to take.

Exactly. There’s a difference between “I’m not remotely sorry he’s dead” and “round of applause to the rapist murderer for killing again”

I feel for the victims family who have to see the face of the person who killed their loved one

Zero sympathy for the prisoner who was killed. Don't think the men who killed him are heroes though.

@zingally

I think that's missing the point a bit, though. I can understand why you (or someone else) might see the murder of a serial killer or child abuser to be a good thing.

But this thread is about people praising the person responsible, and in some cases, advocating for them to be released. That's incredibly insensitive and ignorant/

Tbh if a particular prison wing contained all murderers, rapists and nonces, I’d happily support a Battle Royale style scenario where they can all kill each other.

One nasty piece of work has had their comeuppance, and whoever did them in will never see the outside again. Sounds like a 2 for the price of 1. Good deal that.