Why are people so inconsiderate with their vapes?

I never said it was you in particular who preached, I think you're the defensive one!

Precisely! 😊

Where did I preach? I think you are very defensive about this!

And that’s isn’t peculiar at all !!
Was the late queen some kind of human example of absolute moral perfection?

I like to ask myself most moral questions by saying "would the (late) queen do it"?" And if the answer is no, then don't do it...

It was a rite of passage maybe a decade ago most teens these days are more health and gym conscious than adults!!

I’d “rather” one thing over another in many respects for my teens

but doesn’t mean I’d be totally chilled about the “preferable” one.

Each to their own though. I imagine you and her can bond over vapes!

Whataboutism really doesn't add anything to any argument

Totally chilled, yes.

I'd rather she was vaping than smoking or drinking to excess, which seems to be a teenage right of passage. She's old enough to make her own choices as long as they're informed ones.

I'd hope that you're not concerned that my 18 year old DD vapes because it's nothing to do with you! She knows not to blow vapour over others so it's really only her business.

Excessive alcohol use very often results in very very anti social behavioural problems

The coffee and wine don’t become a noxious cloud that gets huffed over other people’s kids.

Oh and don’t even get me started on potheads smoking in areas full of children

What sort of argument is "well, it's perfectly legal" anyway? Legal doesn't equal morally right.

It's legal to cheat on your spouse, smack your kids, treat your pets badly (I was recently horrified to discover just how far you need to go before it's actually punishable by law) and wear crocs with socks.

Yet these things are still often considered morally reprehensible or at least open to debate.

That would just mean everyone on benefits would get them for free. Which sounds fine by me but I know many on here wouldn't like that.

Socially accepted to be an alcoholic?

No words!!

So by the sounds of it - you’d also be totally chilled about your teens being addicted to alcoholic

I agree. Nobody would dare smoke indoors anymore but vapers seem to think they get a free pass to vape absolutely everywhere. Including in my goddam house, they huff great big clouds of their infant children I struggle to talk to vapers anymore because they also had no qualms huffing over my baby.
One literally started huffing at an inside school play.

It took decades to realise smoking was bad and will probably take decades for the effects of vaping to be discovered but some people learn nothing from history

Doesn’t answer my question

You totally chilled about it? No concerns?

(and why am I not concerned your teen vapes!)

By it’s not illegal! So go for it and report back please!!

Ha this is such a good point. I thought we all understood this after Covid. Being within close proximity to someone else means that you will breathe in their ‘breath’ otherwise you wouldn’t catch airborne diseases 😂

Anyway, I enjoy vaping. It got me off cigarettes. I rarely go to crowded places because I don’t like them so I don’t vape around other people. Not for their benefit though, mainly for mine 😂

Anyway, it’s well known that MN hates vapers as much as it hates landlords and dogs so I won’t lose any sleep over it.

I think the NHS says (and I’m paraphrasing) that vaping is a great way to stop smoking as it’s less harmful but not to start vaping if you’ve never smoked.
That seems sensible to me.

Spoilsports

Damn. There go my plans for the weekend.

Agreed - flew on a short break the past weekend. Both journeys, the pilot/airport staff had to tell passengers off for vaping in the queue to board the plane on the tarmac.
One instance, the pilot had to explain that we were right next to a massive tank of fuel and the passenger just laughed. Luckily they were all made to throw them in the bin or wouldn’t be allowed to board. But the entitlement is unbelievable!

for that utterly weird comment alone, I don’t think I’ll bother reading any of your follow up posts

Don't worry, I won't lose any sleep over you not reading my posts, my point was it's socially acceptable to be addicted to alcohol (how many times have you heard 'ooh it must be wine o'clock?') and caffeine (or 'don't speak to me until my third coffee') - not saying they're not addictive or damaging!

Funnily enough that's exactly what happened when she was 18. We sat down together to check the legalities / risks and she carried on with open eyes and a clear conscience because she didn't choose to hide it from me.

So why do people get so preachy about something they know nothing about?

No-one knows the long term effects of production of electric car batteries yet but everyone seems to think they're a good thing, so that's 'OK'