Why are people so inconsiderate with their vapes?

The bloke vaping was sitting outside. Where you wanted him. Indoor smoking was banned. Now you want to ban vaping outside too? There’s the live and let live. You’re not the boss of him. You could’ve shut the door to the cafe.

They don't taste like anything. They smell, quite fleetingly, like strong pick n mix in whatever flavour they are.

I'm curious why car exhausts get a pass on your asthma but body spray and vapes don't? I think car exhausts are probably objectively more potentially harmful.

This wouldn't bother me personally, and I hugely prefer vapes to cigarette smoke, which is utterly foul.

This may be because we had to get my decades long chain smoking mother off cigarettes when an episode of pneumonia almost killed her. Our only chance of achieving that was to get her onto vapes and nicotine patches.

Once that was achieved then it very quickly became much easier to be around her because the thick cloud of smoke that had constantly followed her around for years was no longer there. Her house too gradually became easier to be in.

So as I said, this wouldn't bother me personally although people obviously shouldn't vape or smoke on school premises or at school events. If addicted to nicotine then they should wear a patch for the duration of the event.

I'd be interested in how you measure net negative in this scenario - I suspect it's highly unprovable.

I'm pretty sure tax revenue on cigarettes and vapes exceeds NHS spending on smoke-associated health issues, so it can't be measured as a net negative there.

I'm even more interested in how you've measured dog ownership as a net negative.

Yeah but they don't taste like a tweenage girls body spray.

Then take yourself away from the cafe?

The car thing isn't really 'quite an assumption'. The % of the population who doesn't regularly travel by car is negligible. Even if you're not driving it you're still responsible for it.

Well to be fair walking along the high street you're inevitably exposed to lots of car exhaust fumes which are no doubt just as bad, if not worse, than vape fumes.

Vaping / dog owning are similar in that the proponents find it essential, but to everyone else it’s a huge irritant, and a net negative on society.

I wonder if the fact it is less objectionable than tobacco smoke is a factor.

I vape. I’m not remotely gormless. Probably wouldn’t do it on the school field to be fair but smoking was banned and vapes were meant to be the way forward. Live and let live

it’s vile.
i feel that they should all be unscented. the scent could be whats making kids try them. they smell like sweeties.

I absolutely do. They get into your mouth in a different way. The clouds from vapes spread so much further.

I would 100% rather a mouthful of cigarette smoke than fecking strawberry shortcake sugar bleuuuughhhh

I did grow up pre smoking ban and worked in bars too, so I am happy that we aren't surrounded by it all the time. But as previous PP said, people are far more considerate with cigarettes than vapes.

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Really ? You think a synthetic sweet smell is worse than cigarette smoke?! Why are they worse ?

I mean, I prefer it to fag smoke

MN is real people. And you’ll always find more people willing to give their honest complaints anonymously online. I’d never walk up to someone and tell them their vape smells horrible.

How does one achieve this when walking along the high street and clouds of vape come at you from different directions?

Thanks for starting this post OP. I absolutely loathe them.

Also those electric air fresheners.

I'm asthmatic and hate anything that feels like it's taking my oxygen away.

Personally I agree as a vaper, and yes I’m addicted to mine but I don’t use the fruity flavours. I don’t vape inside public places and I certainly wouldn’t vape at my child’s sports day. I can’t abide the smell of some of them and I do think it’s rude. Plus I do think it looks quite chavvy.

Massive deal for me.

They are worse than cigarette smoke.

Bloody love hearts vapes in my mouth from sitting in traffic.