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To think if Keir Starmer is ousted there should be a general election

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Viviennemary · 19/06/2026 06:34

I think the set-up should be changed and if the PM is voted out by his party then there needs to be a general election. I didn't vote for very left wing policies which will happen if Andy Burnham replaces the PM. And neither would have I ever voted for the dreadful Liz Truss who must be the absolute worst PM we've ever had.

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YourAmplePlumPoster · 19/06/2026 14:34

I don't get the Starmer hate. Voters voted for him because he held a united Labour Party together in opposition and got them into power by voters tired of the merry go round of ever changing leaders. Now they want to do the same.

Duvetdayforme · 19/06/2026 14:27

Absolutely not. We need economic and political stability.

Rhoodshelter · 19/06/2026 14:23

This entire chat is just pissing in the wind. There won’t be a general election until 2029.

Swiftie1878 · 19/06/2026 14:21

pointythings · 19/06/2026 14:19

I don't know about long tenure. The Boris era felt like forever.

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He won a GE.

pointythings · 19/06/2026 14:19

GasPanic · 19/06/2026 14:03

I think pretty much all of these either didn't change the policy direction hugely on taking office, or had a GE relatively soon after taking office. I suspect Truss would have called a GE in short order if she had been successful.

Leaders who did not fight a GE to get to their PM position don't have a history of a long tenure.

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I don't know about long tenure. The Boris era felt like forever.

LooneyLiberalSpaceWaster · 19/06/2026 14:16

Viviennemary · 19/06/2026 11:48

Just listened to Andy Burnham. He's going to change the country. Arrogant pig headed and power mad. He thinks he knows what's good for us. It's a total insult to voters. Did anybody vote for Andy Burnam's leftie agenda. I didn't.

Good, it needs changing.

Tryingtokeepgoing · 19/06/2026 14:08

Well, it was certainly the case that in opposition the Labour Party was very vocal about the need for a general election every time the conservatives changed leader, so even though it’s not a requirement because of the way the British system works it would be hypocritical of them not to give the electorate the choice…particularly given their manifesto pledges and likely changes to policy. Don’t forget, its country first not party now that the grown-ups are in charge 😂

GasPanic · 19/06/2026 14:03

pointythings · 19/06/2026 13:24

But did you post on Mumsnet about her and demand a GE? Did you demand a GE over May, Sunak, John's and going back, Brown? If not, then why now?

And do you really want the country to spend tens of millions on an election we don't need?

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I think pretty much all of these either didn't change the policy direction hugely on taking office, or had a GE relatively soon after taking office. I suspect Truss would have called a GE in short order if she had been successful.

Leaders who did not fight a GE to get to their PM position don't have a history of a long tenure.

YourShyLion · 19/06/2026 13:24

Don't be silly 🙄

pointythings · 19/06/2026 13:24

Viviennemary · 19/06/2026 12:22

I thought Liz Truss was a disgrace and a total idiot. And a handful of people voting for her. A lot worse than Andy Burnham will be. (Might be?)

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But did you post on Mumsnet about her and demand a GE? Did you demand a GE over May, Sunak, John's and going back, Brown? If not, then why now?

And do you really want the country to spend tens of millions on an election we don't need?

fanitas · 19/06/2026 12:54

TeflonBoot · 19/06/2026 06:55

We do not vote for a Prime Minister but a party. Unless you live in Liz Truss's constituency you would not have been able to vote for her.

The problem is, within the same party there are radically different ideas as to how to run a country. I think people voted Labour last time as it presented itself more centrist. Andy Burnham’s politics are certainly not that! If he’s successful we could end up with a system that no one voted for and very few really want.

SerendipityJane · 19/06/2026 12:46

5128gap · 19/06/2026 11:38

Typo?

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Autocorrect 😎

concertinacornflake · 19/06/2026 12:45

Viviennemary · 19/06/2026 11:48

Just listened to Andy Burnham. He's going to change the country. Arrogant pig headed and power mad. He thinks he knows what's good for us. It's a total insult to voters. Did anybody vote for Andy Burnam's leftie agenda. I didn't.

Maybe do some calming breathing.

He's not got time to change the country, the next general will be 3 years max.

You're panicking, but the change will be minute compared to Brexit, COVID and probably won't match Truss' impact.

concertinacornflake · 19/06/2026 12:41

Viviennemary · 19/06/2026 09:17

I know perfectly well what the system is. I think it's wrong. I wouldnt have voted for a Labour party with Jeremy Corbyn in charge. And I probably wouldn't vote for it if Andy Burnham is PM. So why should I be stuck with him leading the country to the left.

Because this is how parliamentary democracy works.

hellesbells · 19/06/2026 12:34

Viviennemary · 19/06/2026 09:17

I know perfectly well what the system is. I think it's wrong. I wouldnt have voted for a Labour party with Jeremy Corbyn in charge. And I probably wouldn't vote for it if Andy Burnham is PM. So why should I be stuck with him leading the country to the left.

I would'nt have voted for any of the last 4 tory PMs, but nothing i could do about it so nothing you can do about this either

Supersleepysheepy · 19/06/2026 12:27

GotTheIckWithMe · 19/06/2026 06:57

No - definitely not. Reform need enough time in local government to mess it up before the next general election , if it’s too soon they will win which will be a disaster for the country.

Perfectly put.

RobinStrike · 19/06/2026 12:26

I don’t agree there should be a GE. As others have said we vote for the party not the PM. There is something very odd though in having a PM who didn’t stand for Parliament on the current manifesto and has never been in that government, and had no hand in the manifesto. It will be interesting to see how closely Burnham sticks to the (fairly nebulous) manifesto that currently exists and how he will tailor it to his own priorities for the country. Interesting times!

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Viviennemary · 19/06/2026 12:22

pointythings · 19/06/2026 11:55

And no doubt you were raging on Mumsnet about Liz Truss coming in without a GE and trashing people's mortgages... You did, didn't you?

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I thought Liz Truss was a disgrace and a total idiot. And a handful of people voting for her. A lot worse than Andy Burnham will be. (Might be?)

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PenelopeJoanSterling · 19/06/2026 12:13

Viviennemary · 19/06/2026 11:48

Just listened to Andy Burnham. He's going to change the country. Arrogant pig headed and power mad. He thinks he knows what's good for us. It's a total insult to voters. Did anybody vote for Andy Burnam's leftie agenda. I didn't.

but the voters got the country where it is by choosing the leaders they have

JHound · 19/06/2026 12:12

Viviennemary · 19/06/2026 06:34

I think the set-up should be changed and if the PM is voted out by his party then there needs to be a general election. I didn't vote for very left wing policies which will happen if Andy Burnham replaces the PM. And neither would have I ever voted for the dreadful Liz Truss who must be the absolute worst PM we've ever had.

YABU. You vote for your MP not the PM.

PenelopeJoanSterling · 19/06/2026 12:12

why when its a popularity contest decided by joe public, if people cannot choose good leaders over the last few elections then maybe the system needs altering

scienceteachersarefun · 19/06/2026 12:11

I don't know why you think you vote for a leader rather than the party, because you must know that leadership changes.
Another General Election would be expensive, divisive and achieve little benefit for the UK at this stage.
Labour have a mandate to rule. That's it.

scienceteachersarefun · 19/06/2026 12:09

Viviennemary · 19/06/2026 11:48

Just listened to Andy Burnham. He's going to change the country. Arrogant pig headed and power mad. He thinks he knows what's good for us. It's a total insult to voters. Did anybody vote for Andy Burnam's leftie agenda. I didn't.

I thought his speech indicated the exact opposite. Power mad? No. It was a reasonable speech, it set out his vision to give people hope and make politics work again.
Not what you claim at all.

r0ck · 19/06/2026 12:05

I don't think it's about the leader but the manifesto. I vote for a party based on their manifesto- if they are going to break away from that, then I do think they should call an election with their new manifesto in place. If they are going to follow the party manifesto that was put forward at the time of the GE then I think they should be able to crack on.

Anyway I feel they are all as bad as each other. I thought the Labour Party would be better than the Conservative's in-fighting and squabbling but apparently not. Sick of all of them.

EarthlyNightshade · 19/06/2026 12:00

Viviennemary · 19/06/2026 09:17

I know perfectly well what the system is. I think it's wrong. I wouldnt have voted for a Labour party with Jeremy Corbyn in charge. And I probably wouldn't vote for it if Andy Burnham is PM. So why should I be stuck with him leading the country to the left.

Did you vote for Labour with Starmer in charge?

It's a risk to be wedded to one leader and certainly a risk to vote for a left wing party if you don't want a left wing leader.