Page 7 | Burnham has won. More turmoil?

KatiePricesKnickers · 2026-06-19T04:51:37+00:00

Now Burnham has won, it will trigger a leadership contest, and if he wins, a new chancellor of the exchequer. Surely this cannot be good for the country, or its finances? YABU - Burnham is a true leader who will improve the UK for everyone and be a competent and respected leader. YANBU - FFS, here we go again.

AInightingale · 20/06/2026 01:27

How quickly could Burnham become PM? Was watching Jacob R-M talk about it, and he reckoned that if Starmer accepted that he was beaten by early next week, there would be no leadership race as no other candidate would put themselves forward, in the interests of party unity and the desire to avoid a long protracted contest involving the membership. That Starmer will probably decide against a humiliating failure to maintain his leadership as his ministers resign, and that Burnham could potentially be appointed by the King within days.

BIossomtoes · 19/06/2026 21:48

If Clegg had gone into coalition with Labour they’d have outnumbered the Tories.

Flyingintotheunknown · 19/06/2026 21:42

letsallchant · 19/06/2026 21:38

He was the incumbent at the time and therefore as no one had an outright majority, he had the right to try to form a government.

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if I can remember, it was a hung parliament with Cameron getting the biggest majority but not quite enough to form a government. Yet Brown didn’t want to accept that and didn’t want to do the decent thing and step down gracefully. I think it’s fair to say that when you can see the voters were starting to dessert Labour then the best thing to do would be to acknowledge that…. But no let’s be power hungry!

Desperatelyseekinglazysusan · 19/06/2026 21:42

BIossomtoes · 19/06/2026 21:34

You mean Clegg dithered for days about which way to go.

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There was no other combination on that election that would have realistically worked. Labour and Lib Dem wouldn't have had enough seats. They would have had to run as a minority government.

letsallchant · 19/06/2026 21:38

Flyingintotheunknown · 19/06/2026 21:31

Oh he was. And even when he lost in the 2010 GE he did a Starmer and tried to cling on to power by trying his damndest to form a coalition to keep Cameron out from what I could remember because he didn’t want to accept that he had lost. Cameron and Clegg united in the end though and formed their own coalition.

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He was the incumbent at the time and therefore as no one had an outright majority, he had the right to try to form a government.

Flyingintotheunknown · 19/06/2026 21:37

BIossomtoes · 19/06/2026 21:34

You mean Clegg dithered for days about which way to go.

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I mean Gordon Brown lost GE but didn’t want to accept it. A bit like Starmer not accepting he is no longer wanted. Seems to run in the Labour genes. Not sure what Clegg ‘dithering’ has to do with that!

BIossomtoes · 19/06/2026 21:34

Flyingintotheunknown · 19/06/2026 21:31

Oh he was. And even when he lost in the 2010 GE he did a Starmer and tried to cling on to power by trying his damndest to form a coalition to keep Cameron out from what I could remember because he didn’t want to accept that he had lost. Cameron and Clegg united in the end though and formed their own coalition.

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You mean Clegg dithered for days about which way to go.

Sidebeforeself · 19/06/2026 21:34

BIossomtoes · 19/06/2026 21:33

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0261560611001604

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It was a joke. No need to go researching more articles.

BIossomtoes · 19/06/2026 21:33

Sidebeforeself · 19/06/2026 21:27

The Guardian would say that though wouldnt they?

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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0261560611001604

Flyingintotheunknown · 19/06/2026 21:31

BIossomtoes · 19/06/2026 21:29

He wasn’t shit.

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Oh he was. And even when he lost in the 2010 GE he did a Starmer and tried to cling on to power by trying his damndest to form a coalition to keep Cameron out from what I could remember because he didn’t want to accept that he had lost. Cameron and Clegg united in the end though and formed their own coalition.

BIossomtoes · 19/06/2026 21:29

Flyingintotheunknown · 19/06/2026 21:25

Yet got voted out in 2010 due to how shit he was! 😂

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He wasn’t shit.

Sidebeforeself · 19/06/2026 21:27

BIossomtoes · 19/06/2026 21:22

He did. He was widely acknowledged to have handled the crisis better than any other country.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/feb/21/gordon-brown-saved-banks

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The Guardian would say that though wouldnt they?

Flyingintotheunknown · 19/06/2026 21:26

EasternStandard · 19/06/2026 21:21

Well if they weren’t he would have won the GE.

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Yep that pretty much sums it up.

Flyingintotheunknown · 19/06/2026 21:25

BIossomtoes · 19/06/2026 21:22

He did. He was widely acknowledged to have handled the crisis better than any other country.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/feb/21/gordon-brown-saved-banks

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Yet got voted out in 2010 due to how shit he was! 😂

BIossomtoes · 19/06/2026 21:22

Flyingintotheunknown · 19/06/2026 21:17

What makes you think I wasn’t paying attention? I remember very well. It was global… brown didn’t help matter at all.

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He did. He was widely acknowledged to have handled the crisis better than any other country.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/feb/21/gordon-brown-saved-banks

The weekend Gordon Brown saved the banks from the abyss

The Prime Minister's leadership qualities were to the fore on the weekend in October 2008 when financial calamity was so close

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/feb/21/gordon-brown-saved-banks

EasternStandard · 19/06/2026 21:21

Flyingintotheunknown · 19/06/2026 21:07

Brown did not help matters one bit. I think people were glad to see the back of him if I’m honest.

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Well if they weren’t he would have won the GE.

Flyingintotheunknown · 19/06/2026 21:17

TemperanceWest · 19/06/2026 21:15

Because you clearly weren't paying attention to current events.

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What makes you think I wasn’t paying attention? I remember very well. It was global… brown didn’t help matter at all.

Flyingintotheunknown · 19/06/2026 21:17

BIossomtoes · 19/06/2026 21:14

The recession was the result of a global financial crash which began in the US. The “illegal” war was voted on by Parliament and was backed by both sides of the house.

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Yes it was. Based on lies of WMD spewed by Blair.

TemperanceWest · 19/06/2026 21:15

Flyingintotheunknown · 19/06/2026 21:12

Absolutely was an adult during that time. What makes you think I wasn’t?

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Because you clearly weren't paying attention to current events.

BIossomtoes · 19/06/2026 21:14

Flyingintotheunknown · 19/06/2026 20:37

Aye, Blair and Brown before the “14 years of Tory austerity” seem to have long been forgotten about. Illegal wars and pretend WMD. Then came the recession. I remember well.

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The recession was the result of a global financial crash which began in the US. The “illegal” war was voted on by Parliament and was backed by both sides of the house.

Sidebeforeself · 19/06/2026 21:13

You said my question was daft. But lets agree to disagree because Im sure we are boring everybody now.

Flyingintotheunknown · 19/06/2026 21:12

TemperanceWest · 19/06/2026 21:10

Were you an adult during that time?

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Absolutely was an adult during that time. What makes you think I wasn’t?

ClarkeandNewman · 19/06/2026 21:11

Sidebeforeself · 19/06/2026 21:03

Okay then. So my point still stands.

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I don't think I've argued with your point?

TemperanceWest · 19/06/2026 21:10

Flyingintotheunknown · 19/06/2026 21:07

Brown did not help matters one bit. I think people were glad to see the back of him if I’m honest.

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Were you an adult during that time?

Flyingintotheunknown · 19/06/2026 21:07

TemperanceWest · 19/06/2026 20:59

Global recession. That bit is important.

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Brown did not help matters one bit. I think people were glad to see the back of him if I’m honest.