Burnham has won. More turmoil?

That expectation was set by Labour themselves. Unless you voted Labour in the last election, you have no need to be embarrassed. The current shambles is entirely of Starmer's own making and sums up his entire short premiership with the party lurching from one psychodrama to the next, creating ongoing instability.

“Starmer has shown a strong leadership on the world stage.”

And that’s the issue. It’s all that prick cares about, how he is seen on the world stage. He doesn’t give a shit about the UK, he only cares about how the other world leaders see him. Because he has a grandiose sense of self worth and thinks he’s far better than he really is. Complete, selfish total utter narcissist more like.
Oh and btw he’s done nothing but make a fool of himself on the world stage. He’s a laughing stock and the other world leaders know it.

A lot of the instability is being caused by the Reform leader pushing his narrative. If the Reform candidate had won they would be calling for a GE which is what they have been pushing for since day 1 of Starmer moving into Number Ten. Starmer has shown a strong leadership on the world stage. He has weaknesses which Reform have exploited . He left himself wide open for a lot of criticism too.
I doubt Farage even wants to be PM he wouldn't be able to earn all his extras and he would have to attempt to fulfill his pledges. He is no friend of the British people he is self serving.

This will be like the Jacinda Ardern effect. 🙄

It's because of things like Instagram, everyone wants instant wins. There were 14 years of Tory austerity and yet for some reason people thought Labour could magically fix everything in six months and then were shocked when that didn't happen.

I'm genuinely embarrassed to be British.

And presumably you sit there writing that as a Tory voter?

The irony.

At least he doesn’t believe in trickle down economics, which is a good start. It’s not simply growth that’s needed to heal the country, it’s tackling financial inequality.

And he won’t take ‘traditional’ Labour voting areas (‘The Red Wall’) for granted, as Blair did, which left people so despondent they were lured by Reform.

He may also benefit from the end of the war in Iran (if the deal sticks), which should help the economy.

We’ve had six PMs since Brexit, which hugely destabilised the economy.

Are we ungovernable? 7th PM in 10 years. I’m quite excited in a self-destructive sort of way. I likes a bit of political mayhem.

Ever since Keir Starmer (Pony Harmer) said ‘The grown ups are in the room’ during his first speech outside No 10 I knew his days were numbered. Pompous arse.

Ugh - I feel really down about this and I actually don’t agree that it’s better than reform winning - I think it makes Reform more likely to win in the next election because on top of the people who think Starmer (in less than 2 years) should have been able to fix decades of issues that have built up under several governments and a very unstable global economy over which he has very little control, we’ll now get the ‘he wasn’t voted in by us so has no mandate’ voices too. I find it utterly depressing. No one from any party would have done any better - the problems that we have cannot be fixed in less than 2 years and no one has anymore idea than Starmer (well I certainly haven’t heard any other party put forward any workable suggestions anyway) as how to fix all of this given the causes. I blame Streeting, not Burnham though for triggering the start of it all. The country desperately needs some stability and those two idiots are about to take it away from us in a depressing leadership contest where what we need is sensible. Once that has happened, all those they that seem to think someone can magically fix all of this, will bay for an election for the next 3 years because yuh know, we didn’t vote for Burnham so he has no right to make decisions in my name blah nonsense. I had hoped the World Cup might bring the country together over the next few weeks but no, we’re going to have to suffer through this now.

I genuinely don’t understand how a single person votes Labour. I can only assume they are supportive of others subsidising them. There is no other rational answer. They simply have to be economically selfish.

Yes, Farage wants to be PM only to be able to say that he has been the PM. He would consider the job done on day one. The fact that people don't see this amazes me. He doesn't give a fuck about his average voter - he'd actively avoid most of them if he wasn't courting their vote. What does an upper class man who went to public school have in common with the average working /underclass white Brit? Absolutely nothing. He probably considers them to be idiotic proles. The only person Farage cares about is Farage, oh and maybe his donors too.

The fault lies 100% with Starmer. He worked hard to get himself tangled with Mandelson, someone who he was friends with Epstein, had been fired twice from government on serious counts, has all sorts of dodgy dealings, including an interest in Pallantir, company Starmer met while in breach of the Ministerial Code (that, on its own is a sackable offence).
Now, we all suffer the consequences of Starmer's actions.
I am happy that Burham won. I was worried that he would not be elected.

Starmer will have to face the consequences of his actions. It is 100% on Starmer. He has done this to himself.

Ugh - I feel really down about this and I actually don’t agree that it’s better than reform winning - I think it makes Reform more likely to win in the next election because on top of the people who think Starmer (in less than 2 years) should have been able to fix decades of issues that have built up under several governments and a very unstable global economy over which he has very little control, we’ll now get the ‘he wasn’t voted in by us so has no mandate’ voices too. I find it utterly depressing. No one from any party would have done any better - the problems that we have cannot be fixed in less than 2 years and no one has anymore idea than Starmer (well I certainly haven’t heard any other party put forward any workable suggestions anyway) as how to fix all of this given the causes. I blame Streeting, not Burnham though for triggering the start of it all. The country desperately needs some stability and those two idiots are about to take it away from us in a depressing leadership contest where what we need is sensible. Once that has happened, all those they that seem to think someone can magically fix all of this, will bay for an election for the next 3 years because yuh know, we didn’t vote for Burnham so he has no right to make decisions in my name blah nonsense. I had hoped the World Cup might bring the country together over the next few weeks but no, we’re going to have to suffer through this now.

This will be like the Jacinda Ardern effect. 🙄

Economically selfish? Isn’t that the people who oppose any tax increases for the rich?

To me it is not really about the person but the fact that the party in Government can vote in whoever they want as PM without the people who voted for them having a say. This goes for all parties.
Perhaps Burnham will be good, perhaps he will be a shambles, but either way he wasn't voted in by the people.
I know he was mayor but that doesn't mean he can run the country....I would feel the same if they said Sadiq Khan was going to be PM.

I am quite fascinated though by how Burnham is morphing into Starmer. They have the same looks and mannerisms